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- 16 May 2015 18:49
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early modern Swedish
- Replies: 26
- Views: 8454
Re: Early modern Swedish
Nyrén also writes that <hv> was still a distinct sound in pairs like hval-val, since this sound was described as something like /hw/, i reckon we can rule out that 18th century Swedish had the modern slightly rounded velar sj-sound, and that the "thin" sj-sound as in Finland swedish or No...
- 03 May 2015 02:55
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
I actually think variant 4 looks good even at normal size on a computer screen. It may be tricky to distinguish from normal g, though. It's definitely the most appealing of these since (1) it's in the "upper storey", and (2) there's only one crossing of the naked g . (In 8 the upper store...
- 01 May 2015 19:33
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
I'm not for breeding so nope. [cross] Of course, I assume here that the breeding process is already performed like with the dogs. And dogs weren't really domesticated, they domesticated themselves through natural selection. We simply let them in and in the end we had furry pals. Maybe one could sim...
- 01 May 2015 19:20
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
And no need to enslave the squirrels to enjoy their presence. Keep visiting your pine paradise and look at them go! The pine paradise is just outside my window, in the background I see the Jamtish mountains (OldJam Jamtafjǫllin , ModSwe Jämtlandsfjällen ). I realize that the squirrels outside my wi...
- 01 May 2015 14:36
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
My hand-written <g> pretty much has a macron connected to it with a stroke from not lifting the pen tho, as an ascender (double-story too). [>_<] Aren't you a bit too young for handwriting this stuff? BTW, speaking about pet peeves, there's a lot of squirrels outside that have woken up from the win...
- 01 May 2015 14:21
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
More of an orthographic peeve, or coïncidence of orthographic history, but I hate how <ƀ đ> look so nice while <ǥ> is just awful, because you often need the three together, but because of <ǥ> alone I can't bring myself to do it and find another way to express, say, voiced fricatives. I have always ...
- 26 Apr 2015 01:03
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: False cognates
- Replies: 909
- Views: 333097
Re: False cognates
13th century East Norwegian seems to have had þær, contrasting with West Norwegian þar. What this means for Jamtish I cannot say, but it doesn't strike me as an unreasonable feature. At least we must've had þarna rather than þærna since we today have " dan " coming from this. The only MJ ...
- 25 Apr 2015 15:09
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: False cognates
- Replies: 909
- Views: 333097
Re: False cognates
I think it is generally accepted that hjá is related to hjú , my guess is that the Nynorsk dictionary has just copied the definition from Bokmål hos . I haven't seen that etymology suggested elsewhere. I've noticed that the etymologies in that source are somewhat dubious when I've cross checked wit...
- 23 Apr 2015 20:32
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Unique and/or odd distinctions
- Replies: 185
- Views: 30465
Re: Unique and/or odd distinctions
In older Swedish one could say supa soppa ' sup soup' where supa meant that you take in fluid food with a spoon. Today supa is mainly slang for drinking alcohol, probably from the fact that strong alcoholic beverages once were often drunk with a spoon (drinking from the bottle or even a cup/glass/ta...
- 22 Apr 2015 20:26
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: False cognates
- Replies: 909
- Views: 333097
Re: False cognates
hos < OEN hús 'house' So, how did hús begin to be used as a preposition? An Old Swedish (using Old Norse orthography) sentence like Barnit er í húsi Leifs 'The child is in Leif's house' must somehow have become evolved into Barnit er hús Leifi 'The child is with Leif' Damn, how did it happen? A ke...
- 20 Apr 2015 20:48
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
It doesn't matter what sound native speakers of the other language in question think is closer. So it's mainly to show off to other Americans? "I've moved to New York now, Kentucky is history". I've actually found that in at least bisyllabic words, Americans tend to put the stress on the ...
- 20 Apr 2015 20:28
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Unique and/or odd distinctions
- Replies: 185
- Views: 30465
Re: Unique and/or odd distinctions
I find the Swedish distinction between "tårta" and "kaka" quite interesting. They are both usually translated as 'cake' but there are some subtle differences in meaning. To a swedde this is like reading I find the English distinction between "cake" and "cookie&quo...
- 19 Apr 2015 23:41
- Forum: Conworlds & Concultures
- Topic: [WoTS] The Climate Thread
- Replies: 24
- Views: 5346
Re: [WoTS] The Climate Thread
The best maps, in my opinion, aren't the ones that are the most scientifically accurate, but they're the ones that evoke your imagination. Well, the real world (though a con one, but you get my point) is waymore interesting than a complete phantasy. If you know the science holds your conworld will ...
- 19 Apr 2015 23:27
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 89159
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
Isn't it a common tendency - at least in American English – to render /a/-ish vowels in foreign languages as /ɑ(ː)/? (Hence the common American pronunciation of pasta ...) Yeah, I'd agree. The first name of the Swedish golfer Annika Sörenstam is natively pronounced [ˈanː.ɪˌkʰa] but americans seem t...
- 08 Apr 2015 00:01
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Orthographic quirks in natlangs
- Replies: 127
- Views: 28193
Re: Orthographic quirks in natlangs
Icelandic au umlauts with ey just like German au umlauts with äu , and just like Icelandic a~e and German a~ä . So it's there to show an older relationship, i-umlaut, than the much younger u-umlaut, which I think is fine. Your point is the usual, albeit naïve, one. This is my criticism of the pair ...
- 05 Apr 2015 01:26
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Orthographic quirks in natlangs
- Replies: 127
- Views: 28193
Re: Orthographic quirks in natlangs
In Icelandic the diphthong au is annoyingly pronounced [œy̯] as if the spelling was öu . The spelling öu would be in line with the usual u -umlauted a , it's e.g. l ö nd u m rather than l a nd u m , i.e. ö~u is preferred over a~u . Spelling au instead of öu is like spelling landum instead of löndum ...
- 02 Apr 2015 20:25
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: Climates in Conworlds?
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3370
Re: Climates in Conworlds?
Anyone have any advice? Not exactly an advice but let's present some possibilities. As you may know, the Earth's temperature oscillates gicing rise to cold periods (like now) and warm periods (like most of the inhabitated Earth's history). Indeed, for a brief period the Earth was essentially a snow...
- 13 Mar 2015 20:22
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early old norse.
- Replies: 123
- Views: 55355
Re: Early old norse.
There could potentially have been some minimal pairs such as heiðit ‘the brightness of the sky’ (< heið) with accent I and heiðit ‘pagan, heathen (neuter)’ (< heiðinn) with accent II. More than potentially, I'd claim. Personally I'm a strong proponent of marking the definite article. Thus, e.g., he...
- 11 Mar 2015 19:32
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early old norse.
- Replies: 123
- Views: 55355
Re: Early old norse.
Oh, I thought you meant modern Norse languages.HinGambleGoth wrote:Neither was length or nasality, as pointed our earlier, there is alot of features of spoken norse that were never or rarely marked in runes or manuscripts, one of the main reasons i started this thread.
- 11 Mar 2015 00:30
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early old norse.
- Replies: 123
- Views: 55355
Re: Early old norse.
Accent has never been marked in Scandinavian orthographies, as far as i know, danish does "mark" stød with a silent <d> it seems. I mark accent in my Jamtish orthography, if that counts. E.g., I write kast'eð 'the throw' (Swe. 'kastet') with acute accent but kasteð 'threw, thrown' (Swe. '...