Afrikaans lost practically all strong verbs but the copula and it has also lost person and number marking.qwed117 wrote: In that case, I think most Indo-European languages do.
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- 31 May 2017 20:27
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1317957
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
- 29 May 2017 18:03
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1317957
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
You could argue, that some highly presciptive standard languages have shades of that, like standard German.KaiTheHomoSapien wrote:I find this interesting in that "natlang" and "conlang" always seemed so black and white to me, but I can see how there can be blurred lines.
- 25 May 2017 21:44
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: [j] vs [i̯]
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7223
Re: [j] vs [i̯]
I think one indicator of /ʋ~v/ being an approximant in German is the way Germans tend to mispronounce /w/ in English, lumping it together with /v/ When I think about it, my own /v/ is not even articulated in the same way as my /f/. The lips are more open and there is far less turbulence. And native...
- 21 May 2017 12:55
- Forum: Beginners' Corner
- Topic: [j] vs [i̯]
- Replies: 17
- Views: 7223
Re: [j] vs [i̯]
I would guess it exists somewhere. Spanish has something that comes close, /ʝ/ vs. /i̯/. There is some neutralization and interchange between the sounds; for example, the singular "rey" has /i̯/ while the plural "reyes" has /ʝ/. They are only constrastive in most varieties after...
- 19 May 2017 22:25
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early old norse.
- Replies: 123
- Views: 55173
Re: Early old norse.
Regarding the word hross, it actually shifted around the vowel and consonant in Old Swedish, much like English, yielding hors. I do not know if it is attested in danish though, and it is possible that both variants coexisted, russ is also found in Swedish.
- 10 May 2017 20:50
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Samthüdisk, a slightly different Germanic auxlang.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1656
Re: Samthüdisk, a slightly different Germanic auxlang.
That would be much alike north germanic that uses the demonstratives as plural pronouns.Nachtuil wrote:For pronouns have you considered using your demonstratives/definitely articles like Dutch often does for inanimates? (And sometimes animates)
- 05 May 2017 18:55
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Samthüdisk, a slightly different Germanic auxlang.
- Replies: 2
- Views: 1656
Samthüdisk, a slightly different Germanic auxlang.
Well, I already know of Folkspraak, Frenkish and such, but I want to try and make a somewhat different Germanic auxlang. The existing languages feel somewhat mangled together, often English grammar with a dutch like orthography and a radically generalized morphology that doesn't really resemble a li...
- 30 Mar 2017 16:09
- Forum: Teach & Share
- Topic: Phonological history of Swedish
- Replies: 1
- Views: 4083
Re: Phonological history of Swedish
This is the development of the Swedish vowel system, roughly from 1300 to 1500, some mergers started later and are still ongoing in the dialects, standard Swedish merged /ɞ:/ and /o:/ centuries ago and it is mostly found in western Sweden today. Otherwise, the vowel system has remained remarkably st...
- 10 Jan 2017 14:03
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: English Orthography Reform
- Replies: 402
- Views: 197195
- 04 Jan 2017 17:00
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 150
- Views: 110075
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Goidelic is terrifying.tseren wrote:Some people just don't know when to stop. They pretended people spoke this stuff.
- 27 Dec 2016 13:44
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Early old norse.
- Replies: 123
- Views: 55173
Re: Early old norse.
Is it known when this r > ʀ / i_# change occurred? In the late Viking age, when z* and r* where falling together and the carvers had a harder time separating the sounds. Another thing I have been thinking about is the actual name of the language, the medieval scandinavian spoke essentialy the same ...
- 23 Dec 2016 20:07
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: If natlangs were conlangs
- Replies: 150
- Views: 110075
Re: If natlangs were conlangs
Danish is an attempt at making a Germanic conlang where the creator experimented with all sorts of lenition, you can tell since the vowel system is quite generic and not as planned out. The grammar is also very generic, and very average. As I said the maker just made a one-of trowaway experiment whe...
- 23 Dec 2016 16:18
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1317957
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
I have some questions about the Middle low German spelling. onset /f/ is spelled with <v>, I know that dutch and German voiced /s/ to /z/ in this position, so maybe f also was voiced. Dutch spells Germanic f as <v> Danish scribes clearly spelled /v/ with <f> between vowels, but Swedish scribes didn'...
- 22 Dec 2016 15:51
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 88572
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
But Standard German is an artificial language based on a written compromise of different High German dialects which over time became more and more of a spoken language whose phonology is based on both the written standard and spoken Eastphalian Low German. This is very interesting, it has bothered ...
- 20 Dec 2016 10:39
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 88572
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
Oh, well that's different. I was thinking about the reconstructed phonologies of languages like Latin and Sanskrit. Well they are related issues. For instance whenever early modern english is brought up people say "sounds irish, sheakespeare was english" and so on, as if RP is eternal, th...
- 20 Dec 2016 00:08
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 88572
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
How do we know how accurate our current reconstructions are without going back in time and hearing the language? But our language never changed, only our neighbours who corrupted our language with foregin intermingling and lazy pronounciation! They used to talk so you could understand, like us! Thi...
- 19 Dec 2016 20:30
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Linguistic pet peeves
- Replies: 338
- Views: 88572
Re: Linguistic pet peeves
One thing that I cant stand is that you simply can not bring up historical linguistics without encountering strong skepticism or downright hostility (often from native speakers of the modern language/dialect) when you talk about how languages such as Latin or early modern english can fairly accuratl...
- 12 Dec 2016 10:00
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Merger of mutually intelligible languages
- Replies: 29
- Views: 10211
Re: Merger of mutually intelligible languages
*The Scandinavian languages (Danish, Swedish and Norwegian) You could easily create an inbetween-language, blending bokmål and riksvenska, it would turn be something akin to götamål dialects. But danish? Written language maybe, see dano-norwergian. Spoken? No, danish has a vastly different phonolog...
- 25 Nov 2016 23:01
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: Devoicing in English
- Replies: 15
- Views: 4100
Re: Devoicing in English
Voicing of stops in germanic is a whole topic of it's own, isn't the actual distinction in obstruents mostly the lack or prescence of aspiration? Or fortis/lenis? Icelandic, Danish and Swiss german are for example analyzed that way.
- 25 Nov 2016 21:00
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: "General West Germanic"
- Replies: 8
- Views: 3463
Re: "General West Germanic"
I have been thinking about a deep french-like orthography for the medieval germanic languages, you could fairly easily spell old norse and anglo-saxon in an archaic state like proto-norse. Umlaut and other sound changes would be predictavle through pronounciation rules. So dōmjan would be read as /d...