The CBB

Ever thought about why English has so many "s" sounds? There are already so many words containing "s", "se", "ce", "ds", "ts" and "tz", and to make it worst, nouns in plural must end with "s", verbs in third person singu...

Khemehekis wrote: ↑01 Jan 2024 07:14

Oligey wrote: ↑01 Jan 2024 07:12 It is simpler, more stable as well as more melodious.

Hmmph, stability -- who wants it?

Wow wow wow...
Stability means nothing???
It seems that you are a 100% layman in linguistics...

Mandarin contains 4 tones, and each of them represents a different level of pitch, so this lang has cadence and sounds more like music.
But English doesn't.

Wow! How can a lang be better than another in almost all aspects?
It is simpler, more stable as well as more melodious.

This is unfair!

Why it is Shakyamuni instead of Shakamuni? Why it is Genghis Khan instead of Gengis Khan? Why it is Beethoven instead of Beidowen? Are you telling me in EN you cannot spell a word even if you know the pronunciation? And you have to recite the word? And words of this type are infinite in number? But ...

A video explaining this in Chinese: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1EQ4y1g7k4 (I cannot translate it I am afraid.) In summary, Chinese doesn't borrow words from other langs, so it is superior compared to phonographic langs like English. An anology using programming terms: Chinese has a better unde...

I am from your POV if your POV is just an English learner's view (other than that I don't know what is your POV) and that is because I am an English learner myself. You, on the other side, are not a Chinese learner, so you cannot come to mine even if you wanted. This is why I am in a more advantage...

I am from your POV if your POV is just an English learner's view (other than that I don't know what is your POV) and that is because I am an English learner myself. You, on the other side, are not a Chinese learner, so you cannot come to mine even if you wanted. This is why I am in a more advantage...

<snip> I agree that we should end this conversation. I doubt you'll come to my point of view, and I doubt I'll come to yours (since, again, I don't like comparing the "complexity" of languages), and finding a middle ground doesn't seem easy either. I'd appreciate it if a mod could lock th...

Now we're getting somewhere! This is only because most words in Chinese languages are made of compounds of simpler words, whereas in English, words come from a greater diversity of sources. In Chinese you need to memorize 4k+ characters, as opposed to 25k words 26 letters . Indeed, reading the mean...

Not really. As I said, "some ppl like to consider CN chars counterpart of EN letters. This is incorrect , because EN letters don't have meanings." So, In Chinese you need to memorize 4k+ characters, as opposed to 25K words in EN. the pronunciation is easier to interpret with English This ...

OK, let's do this one by one aspect. The most important reason is that, in CN, learners need to memorize only 4K characters, but in EN, they need to memorize 25K words. Indeed, in CN, chars are different from words, but they are highly related to the extent that if you know the chars, you know the ...

I don't need to know Chinese to argue the point that "complexity" is not a meaningful category of comparison for *any* language. I don't need to imagine things about Chinese, and in fact I never have done that anywhere in this thread. I cited my source for the language-family argument. An...

I set the bar of "knowing both langs" to prevent ppl who don't have sufficient knowledge from conducting a meaningless argument, but still there are ppl like VaptuantaDoi, Salmoneus, Arayaz who used their imagination about a foreign lang to start a debate " by force ". You guys j...

Khemehekis wrote: ↑31 Dec 2023 02:25 A very simple language:

https://tokipona.org/

Is this the best language there is, Oligey?

Did I used the word "possible" or "certainly"?

I've encountered people like this before who don't really grasp linguistics and refuse to listen to other people's arguments. Oligey is actually the most reasonable of the ones I've met, actually! You say you have refuted all of my arguments when talking to VaptuanaDoi...but I don't remember you sa...

To clarify, Oligey, the point of my sarcastic statement about Esperanto was to show how silly it is to argue that one language being (allegedly) simpler than another makes the former language "better" than the latter language. And my sarcastic statement was to show that it is totally poss...

你会不会中文，会的话就讨论我的问题，不会就闭嘴，别跟我扯什么乱七八糟的。 永远是你这种一句中国话都不会的人，蹦出来，使出吃奶的劲给英语辩护。 I am not defending English. I just believe that it is not practical to say that any natural language is simpler than another. I do not speak any of the Chinese languages. But! It is possible to know things about languages that o...

Chinese (simplified Chinese: 汉语; traditional Chinese: 漢語; pinyin: Hànyǔ; lit. 'Han language' or 中文; Zhōngwén; 'Chinese writing') is a group of languages spoken natively by the ethnic Han Chinese majority and many minority ethnic groups in Greater China. From Wikipedia. I'm not going to argue the po...

Chinese (simplified Chinese: 汉语; traditional Chinese: 漢語; pinyin: Hànyǔ; lit. 'Han language' or 中文; Zhōngwén; 'Chinese writing') is a group of languages spoken natively by the ethnic Han Chinese majority and many minority ethnic groups in Greater China. From Wikipedia. I'm not going to argue the po...

"Chinese" is actually a family of many related languages: Mandarin, Cantonese, Hakka, etc. And Salmoneus is one of the most intelligent and respected members of this community. Oh, no, Esperanto is way simpler than Chinese! It has only sixteen rules, a claim which is totally not Eurocentr...