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LinguoFranco wrote: ↑25 Jan 2024 19:58 How unusual would it be for a language to have /ʃ t͡ʃ/ as phonemes but [ɕ cç] as allophones of /s k/ before /i/?

Are they too similar to tell apart?

If there was an iceberg meme for sound changes/allophony, I'd put this one level below the top-most level. Though i'd expect /s ʃ/ > [ʃ ɕ] /_i

Instead of sleeping all night, I worked on verbs (and prosody decisions): Root : Non-Future Active : Non-Future Applicative P-R-Ḫ "speak" : paraḫ-ti "he said" / parḫ-a-tti "he made say" S-Y-M "have" : sam-ti "he had" / sīm-a-tti "he gave" L...

I guess my question would be: why? What actual processes are happening to cause this? Let's say a word starts out as HLLS (s=superheavy). Stress falls on the superheavy syllable, so no stress rules broken. So what happens to make a word of this sort change its form, and why, and what does it become...

The language also has secondary stress and an alternating rhythm (usually iambic, sometimes trochaic), so syllable patterns that are HLL outside the stress window are still strongly dispreferred as this would interrupt the iambic/trochaic rythm. This sounds like a better description of the same ide...

The rule sounds natural but also maybe a bit complicated formulation-wise. Could you give an inventory of abstract possible and inpossible prosodic forms? Like so (L=light syllable, H=heavy syllable): L H LL LH HL HH ... *HLLL .... LLLL This might help to better judge if it's natural and maybe how ...

Does this sound like a naturalistic prosody/syllable rule? "If at least one heavy syllable precedes the final syllable, then that heavy syllable cannot be followed by more than one light syllable except if the second light syllable is also the final one" I have a summary of examples of exa...

In all kinds of ways: They could dissimilate across one or both dimension, e.g. a high-pitch prefix could trigger an otherwise high-pitch root to become low-pitch. They could assimilate across one or more dimensions, e.g. a high-pitch prefix could cause an otherwise low-pitch root to become high-pi...

Does this look naturalistic? I'm just not sure there's a good logic case to syncretizing the instrumental and genitive like there is for the dative and genitive. Should note that Vrkhazhian has secundative alignment (D=A=Nom, R=P=Acc, T=Ins), so the instrumental primarily represents the theme or sec...

<chodnuğu>

[ʈ͡ʂʼɤɖˈɳuːɣu] > [tʃʰô.'núː.ɣù]

Polysemy between voices and nominalizations. Donald mour hom. D bake cake 'Donald baked a cake.' Hom ma-mour sa Donald. cake PASS-bake by D 'The cake was baked by Donald.' Ma-mour la fotah. NMZR-bake be delicious 'The baked one is delicious.' Donald sa-mour D ANTIP-bake 'Donald baked [something].' ...

I would actually say that almost all conlangs are not languages, and that there is no level completeness necessary to be a conlang. A conlang with a 2-page grammatical sketch and a dictionary of 200 words is, of course, a conlang. But it is most certainly not a language. A language is not a short g...

Salmoneus wrote: ↑13 Jan 2024 16:00 I don't understand this distinction.

I go off of this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dative_sh ... hypothesis

And I make a distinction between verbs of caused possession and verbs of caused motion

How naturalistic of a system would this be regarding ditransitive verbs? If "X causes Y to go to Z", then indirect alignment (e.g. I-NOM throw a ball-ACC to you-DAT) If "X causes Z to have Y", then secundative alignment (e.g. I-NOM give you-ACC a ball-INS) And my language would, ...

Indeed, the whole idea of a 'non-social' animal is kind of questionable. Animals have to come into contact with their own kind in order to mate, and most large animals show at least some period of parental care. And they will regularly encounter members of other species, whether those are rival pre...

Does this seem like a plausible/naturalistic case system? (Slashes indicate "singular / plural") Masculine NOM: -im / -āya VOC: -ī / -āya ACC: -is / -īna INS: -in / -īna GEN: -iḫa / -īḫa EQU: -ila / -īla Feminine NOM: -um / -āwa VOC: -ū / -āwa ACC: -us / -ūna INS: -un / -ūna GEN: -uḫa / -ū...

1) Pitch accent: One way to think about weight-sensitive stress is to think of it as stress in a fixed moraic positions. Let's say you stress the third-to-last mora whenever possible. This gives you the following patterns for words with at least three to four moras. cúucu (cû:cu) cúcuu (cúcu:) cuúc...

Knox Adjacent wrote: ↑01 Jan 2024 13:17 So today's the day I find the ZBB no longer lets you view posts without being a member.

Guest access to the forums was removed because the forum kept experiencing internal server errors on every page which seemed to be caused by an excessive number of guests.

Ever thought about why English has so many "s" sounds? There are already so many words containing "s", "se", "ce", "ds", "ts" and "tz", and to make it worst, nouns in plural must end with "s", verbs in third person sing...

I'm thinking of adding pitch-accent (combined with stress accent) but I'm not sure how pitch accent should manifest on heavy and superheavy syllables given that my language's stress is placed on the heaviest non-final syllable (unless the final syllable is superheavy) So, I don't know what syllable ...

Omariiyy wrote: ↑15 Jun 2023 02:47 Most people in Qarsherskiy know some Qarshkī words and atleast half of the population here does speak Qarshkī.

What if Qarshkī is actually a relex (under conlangs and jargon section) or creole/pidgin?