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- 07 Mar 2019 00:09
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
I see. That's how applicatives on a transitive base often work, and yes, it would be like swapping arguments. But what if you change both the case and the word order, like I suggested above: John-NOM letter-ALL/DAT pen-ACC write-APPL or John-NOM letter-ACC pen-ACC write-APPL Would any of the above s...
- 06 Mar 2019 09:16
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Does your language already have an alternative ditransitive construction distinct from donor-[nominative] recipient-[accusative] VERB theme-[instrumental] , where the relative focus level of recipient and theme is different? If yes, I'd suggest using that construction for applicativized verbs too. W...
- 05 Mar 2019 11:46
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
There are languages where applicativized versions of transitive or ditransitive verbs do not actually increase valency, but instead demote the original object to oblique status. Sometimes this demoted object is marked with the same case or adposition that the applied object used to have before appli...
- 28 Feb 2019 08:45
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
What about [+/-nasal], [+/-dorsal], [+/-labial], giving something like the following? /p t/ /kʷ k/ /m n/ /ŋʷ ŋ/ This could even be expanded to vowels: /y i/ /u ɑ/ /ỹ ĩ/ /ũ ɑ̃/ Or else, [+/-voiced], [+/-continuant], [+/-labial]: /p t~k/ /b~m d~ɡ~n~ŋ/ /f s~ʃ~x~h/ /w r~l~j/ Depending on whether you cou...
- 09 Dec 2018 10:29
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: British Romance Language Collablang
- Replies: 522
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Re: British Romance Language Collablang
98: a 99: b 100: d: /f v s z ʃ/ - <f~ff f s~ss s sci~sc> (/f s/ would be <f s> word-initially and adjacent to a consonant, and <ff ss> intervocalically. /ʃ/ would be <sci> before back vowels and <sc> before front vowels, i.e. the same orthographic alternation as with /tʃ/ <ci~c> in 99b.) 101: b Can ...
- 06 Dec 2018 08:24
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
- Replies: 11605
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Verb-medial (SVO) languages tend not to be ergative/absolutive. See http://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1454&p=60979&hilit=Verb+medial+non+ergative#p60979 http://cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1454&p=72868&hilit=Verb+medial+non+ergative#p72868 http://cbbforum.com/vie...
- 22 Nov 2018 18:22
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
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Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Does anyone know of a natural language where the grammatical marking of a certain type of oblique object is suppletive based on the number, definiteness, or topicality of the subject of the clause? For example, a language that regularly uses one adposition to mark a certain type of oblique object wh...
- 19 Nov 2018 17:34
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Quick Diachronics Challenge
- Replies: 1036
- Views: 268262
Re: Quick Diachronics Challenge
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- 15 Nov 2018 09:49
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
For north and south, you could also use boreal and austral respectively.
- 13 Nov 2018 09:14
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
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Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
I just discovered today that German has a very unproductive progressive passive that I would really like to see expanded. You nominalize the verb by taking the stem and attaching a schwa. The resulting noun is of feminine gender and gets a definite determiner inside a locational copula construction...
- 30 Oct 2018 19:54
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Writing sound changes so I understand later
- Replies: 4
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Re: Writing sound changes so I understand later
OK, so you want medial clusters only, and are not really in favor of word-final consonants. This means your sound changes could look something like this: a > ɐ / _ except #(C)_ and C_# ɐ > Ø / VC_CV (starting at the beginning of a word, and targeting the next vowel only if the preceding vowel hasn't...
- 30 Oct 2018 09:10
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread [2011–2018]
- Replies: 5100
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Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Porphyrogenitos wrote: ↑30 Oct 2018 06:12It's horrifying, and brilliant. Horrifying in an impressive way.
- 30 Oct 2018 09:00
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Writing sound changes so I understand later
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2701
Re: Writing sound changes so I understand later
Are you okay with word-initial *#CaCu becoming #CCu? And with word-final *CVCa# becoming CVC#? Should word-final *VCaCa# typically become VCCa#, VCaC#, or VCC#?
(I'm using <#> to explicitly write out the word boundary.)
(I'm using <#> to explicitly write out the word boundary.)
- 29 Oct 2018 08:27
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread [2011–2018]
- Replies: 5100
- Views: 1035663
Re: Random phonology/phonemic inventory thread
Nice! I think I'd personally like to have more geminates and metathesis of /ʔ/, as in this partial table (h₁ and h₂ are alternative options for clusters involving /h/): n p t k p pp [pp] [pp] t [tt] tt [tt] k [kk] [kk] kk ʔ ʔn ʔp ʔt ʔk h₁ [n̥] [f] [θ] [x] h₂ [nn] [pp] [tt] [kk]
- 20 Oct 2018 18:31
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Advice for Omyatloko
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6195
Re: Advice for Omyatloko
Ah, I see. Thank you!masako wrote: ↑20 Oct 2018 14:29 https://i.imgur.com/hiVkIRK.png Hopefully this clears up some confusion.
- 20 Oct 2018 11:01
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Advice for Omyatloko
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6195
Re: Advice for Omyatloko
How is the handwritten style related to the block style? I can see some similarities, but the glyphs don't seem to correspond...
- 18 Oct 2018 11:32
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
- Replies: 11605
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Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
On my own note, what are good ways to derive /l/ (or other laterals) in a phonology that doesn't have it. I figure coronals would be a good place to start, but am not sure in what environments this would be likely to happen. * put this in there to stop bbcode hopefully it works In Hong Kong Cantone...
- 14 Oct 2018 16:13
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: Advice for Omyatloko
- Replies: 18
- Views: 6195
Re: Advice for Omyatloko
What about using some glyphs both as a logogram and as a phonetic glyph for the initial syllable of the most basic word for the concept represented by the logogram?
- 14 Oct 2018 16:05
- Forum: Linguistics & Natlangs
- Topic: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2019]
- Replies: 7086
- Views: 1317675
Re: (L&N) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Many speakers of modern (Castilian) Spanish on the one hand, and of modern Dutch on the other hand, also tend to have a slightly retracted default allophone for their /s/ phoneme; to my ears it typically sounds like [sʲ]. Both of these languages don't really have a contrasting /ʃ/ phoneme though (an...
- 08 Oct 2018 19:08
- Forum: Conlangs
- Topic: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here [2010-2020]
- Replies: 11605
- Views: 2043779
Re: (Conlangs) Q&A Thread - Quick questions go here
Basically any adposition that describes a stative external location should work (definitely "above", "in front of", "against", or "beside"; depending on the underlying cognitive metaphors used in the language possibly even "under" or "behind&quo...