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Shall I romanize /ʔ/ as <h> or <j> or <'>? I am not too fond of the apostrophe because it makes me feel like it isn't as much a letter as the other sounds that get a full Latin glyph... But I also have /h/ in the language, so while the glottal stop could be <h> and the /h/ <j> (similar to Spanish) ...

Boehijt wrote:Next: tsvarġe n.i [t͡sʋ̥ɑɾχɛ] birch tree

ttsuaruhen [ˈt͡ːsuɐ̯ɻuhen] n palm tree

Next: sagrar [ˈsagɻaɻ] n plain, field, meadow, open space

Boehijt wrote:Next: sumen n.a ['sumɛn] son

sumen [ˈsumen] n family

Next: hevbosətəs [ˈheβbosətəs] n wave, a rise in water

Boehijt wrote:Next: ȷotġe n.i ['jɔt̚q͡χɛ] fur, wool

yotiqen [ˈjotiʔen] n hair


Next: gaugəs [ˈgau̯gəs] n king, chief, ruler

Lao Kou wrote:Next: haulíjuls [ˌhɔliˈdʒuls] n. village council

holidžúləs [holiˈd͡ʒuləs] n geographic centre

Next: hiyen [ˈhijen] n eye, eyeball

Now the question is, how will I romanize my uvular nasal? Currently I have < Ṉ ṉ>, but underline is generally used for fricatives, and I don't like the look of a caron on an <n>. Unanimously, dark L will be like the other dark letters. Since you don't have a velar nasal, might I suggest <Ŋ ŋ> /ɴ/? ...

Proto-Takolan has phonemic stress that can be on any syllable in a word, syllabic consonants, and a glottal stop. How should I romanize all of this? Here are two ideas I had. The origional (left) has under dots for syllabic consonants, acute accents for stress, and <'> for /ʔ/. The other one has ac...

Is this at least a vaguely possible consonant inventory? m n ŋ p b t̪ d̪ c k g t͡s s ç ʋ (ɺ) <--- this thing is finicky, never mind it After: [ʃ] --> [ɕ] --> [ç] [tʃ] --> [tɕ] (?? --> [cç] ??) --> [c] (leaving /c/ as the only stop without a voiced counterpart) I'd say yes.

Proto-Takolan has phonemic stress that can be on any syllable in a word, syllabic consonants, and a glottal stop. How should I romanize all of this? Here are two ideas I had. The origional (left) has under dots for syllabic consonants, acute accents for stress, and <'> for /ʔ/. The other one has ac...

DesEsseintes wrote:Next: naṣeen [naʂɛːn] n daughter

našeẹn [ˈnaʃeɛ̯n] n birth

Lao Kou wrote:Next: pévüderhuts [peˌvydɛˈXuts] n. (hair)brush

pevidehútəs [peβideˈhutəs] n vanity

Next: ððeŋułen [ˈðːeŋuʟen] n bag, backpack, knapsack

My latest idea for TLFKAT: The glottal stop will be fully incorporated into the phonology finally, with the following allophony rule: When immediately preceding a resonant /s n l ɬ ʂ ɻ/, the glottal stop is realised as pharyngeal constriction, i.e. as [ħ~ʕ], and unlike after other stops, the fricat...

Lao Kou wrote:Next: shahals [ʃaˈhals] n. alabaster

šaxáləs [ʃaˈxaləs] n mineral, gem, crystal


Next: suttrar [ˈsutːɻaɻ] n water

Which of these changes is more likely word-finally?

n > ŋ

ŋ > n

Ahzoh wrote:True enough, though I have seen Hebrew romanizations use <ḇ> for /v/

Really? Without using <v> for something else? You learn something new every day, I guess.

Anyway, I would still recommend <f v>, but the choice is, naturally, up to you.

Should I represent my fricatives by using caron'd letters? P̌ p̌ B̌ b̌ Š š Ž ž Ǩ ǩ Q̌ q̌ What are the phonetic values of these? I'd assume /ɸ β ? ? x χ/. What are your current representations of these sounds? Yes they are. Though actually I don't like K with caron, looks ugly and s and z caron repr...

Should I represent my fricatives by using caron'd letters? P̌ p̌ B̌ b̌ Š š Ž ž Ǩ ǩ Q̌ q̌ What are the phonetic values of these? I'd assume /ɸ β ? ? x χ/. What are your current representations of these sounds? Yes they are. Though actually I don't like K with caron, looks ugly and s and z caron repr...

Should I represent my fricatives by using caron'd letters? P̌ p̌ B̌ b̌ Š š Ž ž Ǩ ǩ Q̌ q̌ What are the phonetic values of these? I'd assume /ɸ β ? ? x χ/. What are your current representations of these sounds? Yes they are. Though actually I don't like K with caron, looks ugly and s and z caron repr...

Ahzoh wrote:Should I represent my fricatives by using caron'd letters?
P̌ p̌ B̌ b̌ Š š Ž ž Ǩ ǩ Q̌ q̌

What are the phonetic values of these? I'd assume /ɸ β ? ? x χ/. What are your current representations of these sounds?

/g ð z/ are pretty common phonemes to be missing from what would otherwise be a symmetrical system. Examples? I'm sure you're right, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I'm thinking about reworking some of my conlangs. I already started working on Taahu, and Aven hasn't really gone too...

My phonology is probably gonna be: /ɛ i æ u ɒ b d t p k f v ʒ s ʃ j w l r θ/ and diphthongs: /oʊ/ /aʊ/ /eɪ/ I arranged it like this so I could visualize it better. You don't have to do it like this. /i ɛ æ /u ɒ/ /eɪ/ /aʊ/ /oʊ/ /p b t d k/ /f v θ s ʃ ʒ/ /j w/ /r/ /l/ How do you explain the absence o...