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 Post subject: Re: Beta Logography
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2011, 23:04 
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Yes. For example, 29 and 31 look like an oven. Maybe it's just my immagination. :-D

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 Post subject: Re: Beta Logography
PostPosted: Sat 11 Jun 2011, 23:29 
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31's a boat....

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 Post subject: Re: Beta Logography
PostPosted: Mon 13 Jun 2011, 11:47 
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MrKrov wrote:
31's a boat....

its an oven boat!

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Jun 2011, 03:40 
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I don't believe I can generate enough unique graphemes for each basic syllable, despite culling some vowels and consonants so an abugida it is. I also tweaked the numerals 1-3 slightly.
Also included some variant diacritics for consonant/vowel modification and a couple extra/alternate letters. Recommendations of changes I ask for.

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I am aware that the listed diacritic for -/o/ is angled differently in section for diacritics/alternative letters. I changed my mind around that point. :-s
Codas -p, -t, -k, -m, -n, -ŋ are written by writing the letter with the same vowel as the previous syllable. For a sequence that has actually has an audible vowel identical to the previous syllable, a reduplicating glyph is used after it. (Said glyph should be included in the next batch of logograms.)

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jul 2011, 00:59 
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Batch number 2. Again: Any particularly liked? Disliked? Any recommended adjustments to certain glyphs? Other?
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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jul 2011, 21:52 
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With what instruments and upon what surfaces are your con-people intended to write these characters?

For some combinations of instrument and surface, you'll want to avoid circles, for instance.

(Did you already answer this question and I just couldn't find it?)

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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jul 2011, 23:10 
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I'm going to say pens.

Yes, I answered at least in part this already.

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Oh so many of these are obsolete. On the plus side, the remaining quarter are all now a standardized size and I got some decent semantic and phonetic determiners going on for easy derivation.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jul 2011, 22:52 
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MrKrov wrote:
MrKrov Posted: Tue 24 May 2011, 12:19 wrote:
I'm going to say pens.

Yes, I answered at least in part this already.


Yes, I see, you answered about the writing-instruments.

What about the writing-surface?
Paper, parchment, vellum, papyrus, palm-leaves, ... ?

Also; when you say "pens", do you mean, e.g., goose-quills? or what?

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PostPosted: Thu 28 Jul 2011, 18:30 
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More revisions of 84, also now with some more meanings. Such procrastination.
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janko don't get your hopes up yet they're just beta numerals

Rough draft of syllabary. Not quite finished yet even if I do voicing and aspiration distinctions with diacritics. Bottom corner has 4 of the syllables and the glyphs derived from.
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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 00:25 
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MrKrov wrote:
More revisions of 84, also now with some more meanings. Such procrastination.
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Rough draft of syllabary. Not quite finished yet even if I do voicing and aspiration distinctions with diacritics. Bottom corner has 4 of the syllables and the glyphs derived from.
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I don't understand them yet; OTOH they look good and you've obviously put a lot of work into them.

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Jul 2011, 01:46 
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Do I need to do some enlarging?
After further review, the ću syllable looks kinda like an eye. Would converting everything that way for happier cursive tomorrow be aesthetically better?

I'll say paper.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 03:17 
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After hashing out forms, meanings and pronunciations, I think I've got enough to update over the next couple days.
Tonight, I've included how the phonetic determiners work [as described in the image] and a few of the monosyllabic and polysyllabic determiners with actual assigned values. Tomorrow, some radicals and complete words.
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Feedback, yo. Questions?

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 06:23 
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Looks too Chinese.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 06:33 
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In that it uses the rebus principle???

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 10:18 
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No, in that it uses lines.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 10:42 
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LINES??? Using LINES means it "Looks too Chinese"???

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 10:43 
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Yes. You should have made the script entirely from circles.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 10:51 
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Can I get feedback from people who know what they're typing about?

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Sep 2011, 11:02 
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No real feedback but I'd like to see a sentence written out.

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PostPosted: Wed 28 Sep 2011, 05:26 
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Semantic determiners: go above other bits not used phonetically, go left of phonetics. About 32.
Gonna keep fudging around with Mr. Wheel there.
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Some words and affixes (written logographically instead of with syllables as would normally be done as I only have four of the latter.)
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As requested, A sentence. Suggest another more specific one if unsatisfactory.
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