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 Post subject: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Tue 24 Aug 2010, 06:48 
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The World of Paga
Make sure you also see: The Languages of Paga!

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I have been working on Paga since I was about ten years old. It all began with the con-country "Penzala". A world was eventually formed around that original con-country and Paga was born. I have changed a lot since I have began devoting my free time to Paga. Several months ago I began scrapping some stuff and made some major changes to the map. Please read/look at what becomes available and let me know what you think!

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More coming soon!


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Tue 24 Aug 2010, 12:37 
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+Did you know? that the majority of Ogians believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman in order to provide a stable environment for their children? Sex outside marriage is often approved of by both couples, and is often believed to strengthen the two's relationship.


I like this idea.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Tue 24 Aug 2010, 12:45 
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Looks awesome, conlangconstructor!

They are completely human, right? How advanced are they technologically? Further then us?

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wow, that's super. I love the illustrations. Looks like it's taken you a long time. I really like the globe picture too. Reminds me of a distorted Oceania :D

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Tue 24 Aug 2010, 18:21 
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This is very good indeed... please, tell me more about culture.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Wed 25 Aug 2010, 03:17 
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@SLiV
Thanks! Yes, they are completely human. I would say that the Pagans are more technologically advanced than we are here on Earth, but we aren't far behind. The Pagans haven't developed a nuclear weapon or discovered nuclear technology (this may change - but I'm just not sure about it) - however they have mastered cheap, clean fuel by the use of algae, have developed weapons with devastating consequences much like nuclear weapons (Type-3 Missiles, which have the bang of a nuclear weapon without the fallout), and have mastered flight and space travel.

@loftyD
Thanks, yes I've spent several hours working on my satellite map of the planet - and it's still not 100% complete - I always try to perfect it in my spare time.

@Yačay256
Thanks, well - the cultures vary from country to country, but I can explain more about the Muesan people. The Muesans have always been rebellious against an empire or other state that attempts to control them - for example, the Flasuen Kingdom has attempted, many times, to control the island - but the people manage to drain the much larger Kingdom, forcing them to abandon their attempts.
Muesans are very particular on how to act in public, and people are expected to stay clean-cut, clean-shaven, and clean! Not showering daily is considered irregular, and as mentioned above - scratching or any type of grooming in public is considered rude (and in some cases "disgusting").
Muesans also believe that no one is truly an adult until they reach the age of 25 - however, drinking, smoking, and the privilege to drive is given at the age of 21.
Also, the age of consent is 21. Muesa is also one of the only countries in the world in which the government does not keep tabs on marriage, instead most couples are married by a local "marriager" or simply do not get married. Homosexuality isn't illegal in Muesa, but the majority of the population is against it - and many marriagers refuse to marry same-sex couples.
Muesans also eat a lot of fish, and prepare dishes that are fairly spicy.


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Looks so f**ing real ^^ You took a long time to create those concultures?

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Sat 28 Aug 2010, 06:00 
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Yep, Penzala (a part of the world) has been under the works for about ten years now - don't remember the exact date when I finalized the map, but it's been several years ago.


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Aug 2010, 07:54 
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conlangconstructor wrote:
Muesans also believe that no one is truly an adult until they reach the age of 25 - however, drinking, smoking, and the privilege to drive is given at the age of 21.
Also, the age of consent is 21.


This leads to the question . . . how long is a Pagan year compared to a Terran year?

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
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Well, I haven't made it very unique, but a Pagan year is quite shorter than an Earth year. Paga is slightly larger than the Earth, but it rotates at about the same speed, with a Pagan day being 25 hours long. It also rotates its star (which is smaller than our sun) quicker, making a Pagan year slightly over 300 Pagan days long. In comparison with our solar system, Paga would be placed in between Venus and the Earth. Now, I couldn't have it be exactly 300 Pagan days, so I made up: 300.1999, which would accumulate to a day lost every 5 years. This means that instead of a leap year occuring every 4 years, one occurs every 5 years, in which a day is added to the last month. Also, keep in mind I have been speaking of Pagan days, which are about 1.04 Earth days. This means that a Pagan year is about 312 Earth days.
Now, I wasn't too critical with Paga's moon, Naka - I had it rotate Paga about the same speed as our moon rotates Earth. This results in the same phases we have here, and it also allowed me to create 10 months, with 30 days.

I haven't thought much on how Pagans divide their days up, but I think I'm going to try to settle on 20 hours (which are actually 25 hours using our time system). I will think on this, and work out a time system and hopefully get it published to my first post within a few days!

Also, this would mean that a 25-year-old on Paga would actually be about 21 here on Earth, also a 21-year-old Pagan would be 17 (almost 18) here on Earth - so it's not too farfetch'd for a Muesan to not be considered an adult until their 25th birthday.

In other news, I plan on adding some history lessons soon! Working on the early history of Og. Hope to get it posted soon.
Also working on the fairly unique political systems I've created, including Cafotry and Ghogism.

Also, I've updated the first post's picture of Paga. I think it looks a little better.


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Tue 26 Oct 2010, 09:40 
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Yet again, I've updated some images - looks much more realistic. I've also rewritten the post.

Any questions/comments are welcome!


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 03:48 
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This really is quite amazing! I'm in love especially with the maps and flags - I love cartography. I like how countries close geographically have similar colors and layouts in their flags.

Did you also use GIMP for the "satellite" images? How did you make them? I did that for my conworld Alyrica, but it was through a rather tedious process of copying and pasting different terrains from Google Maps, then spherizing it and adding glow, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 03:52 
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I have a few questions.

Are there any ice caps? Though this world might not have them similar to the dinosaur age, but one might think the deserts would be more expansive.

Were would the cradle of man be? Humans on earth have the GRV (Great Rift Valley (Afirica)(did a paper on it)) but what do the Pagan's have.

What is this world's equivalent to America if there is one. Did people get trampled underfoot like with Columbus?

Also what are major religions and who are the radicals that fight each other. Unless this fell centuries ago.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
PostPosted: Wed 05 Jan 2011, 06:01 
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KiKi Tampusa wrote:
I have a few questions.

Are there any ice caps? Though this world might not have them similar to the dinosaur age, but one might think the deserts would be more expansive.

Were would the cradle of man be? Humans on earth have the GRV (Great Rift Valley (Afirica)(did a paper on it)) but what do the Pagan's have.

What is this world's equivalent to America if there is one. Did people get trampled underfoot like with Columbus?

Also what are major religions and who are the radicals that fight each other. Unless this fell centuries ago.


Not sure about your other questions, but the OP says that humanoids first appeared in the Abrinician Islands.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
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OH. A quick Q. Will you make a map of night? To see an example of cities and their clusters?

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
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Ilaeriu wrote:
This really is quite amazing! I'm in love especially with the maps and flags - I love cartography. I like how countries close geographically have similar colors and layouts in their flags.

Did you also use GIMP for the "satellite" images? How did you make them? I did that for my conworld Alyrica, but it was through a rather tedious process of copying and pasting different terrains from Google Maps, then spherizing it and adding glow, etc.

Yep, I use GIMP for everything. I'm glad you like the maps with the flags; it took forever. I do the same (copy and pasting terrains) but instead of Google Maps, I scan the web for what suits me best. Here lately I've been using NASA images to get closer "satellite" images of specific countries/regions.
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I have a few questions.

Are there any ice caps? Though this world might not have them similar to the dinosaur age, but one might think the deserts would be more expansive.

Yes, but I don't have them in the satellite images or borders because they aren't actually land - and no country has made claims to them. The lower part of New Sceven (Scevan Union), is usually covered with ice all the time because it's fairly close to the south pole.
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Were would the cradle of man be? Humans on earth have the GRV (Great Rift Valley (Afirica)(did a paper on it)) but what do the Pagan's have.

Ilaeriu answered this question but: hominids first appeared in the Abrinician islands, for a specific area: present-day eastern Moan Dann Lii, Toranhum and Gagnumhote, while later species were able to inhabit nearby islands.
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What is this world's equivalent to America if there is one. Did people get trampled underfoot like with Columbus?

There's not really an equivalent to America, all of the world's major continents were habited by five thousand years ago. I'm not 100% sure what you mean in the second sentence.
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Also what are major religions and who are the radicals that fight each other. Unless this fell centuries ago.

I have only done writing on two religions: Ogoroki and Sama (once referred to as Shama), but I have determined that at least 40% of the 9+ billion people in Paga do not practice a religion. Only three states with a state religion still exist: Iricavi, Suet-Diins, and Ramor (Sama).
Although religion doesn't play a part in bloodshed anymore, there still are radicals that fight for various reasons. There are various anti-globalization, anti-Ogian, anti-Jevadan, anti-Lucitian, and nationalist radicals - along with small ethnic groups fighting for various other reasons mainly independence, autonomy, equal rights, etc.
There is currently a fight against nationalist rebels in Wisford, which became an autonomous republic of the Union of Og.
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OH. A quick Q. Will you make a map of night? To see an example of cities and their clusters?

I've actually been working on one, along with a population density map. I'll try to get it finished and online soon!


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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
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I must ask, how did you make those landmasses? Is there a neat gimp tutorial available to get nice-looking ones like yours? Mine always come out looking like random blobs when I try to do them by hand.

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 Post subject: Re: The World of Paga
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Here's a "night satellite" image of Paga showing the major cities and stuff. I've kind of quickly scrapped this together, so it might change in a few months.
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I must ask, how did you make those landmasses? Is there a neat gimp tutorial available to get nice-looking ones like yours? Mine always come out looking like random blobs when I try to do them by hand.

I draw it all out on paper and then scanned them onto my computer - then I painstakingly drew everything by hand. I also recently stretched my original landmass outlines and redrew them very large (like 2400 pixels wide for the entire planet) - and when you stretch it down smaller, the edges look fairly nice...original borders don't look as pretty though and they need a little cleaning up.
I don't know of any tutorials online, sorry.


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I'm sorry but I must say it is somewhat over populated. Also it appears you forgot about deserts, forests and mountains. Also I see only a small area for tundra. These lights may have people but you should also take into consideration slums and ghettos. Otherwise it looks cool placement seems off.

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Jan 2011, 02:12 
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conlangconstructor wrote:
Yep, I use GIMP for everything. I'm glad you like the maps with the flags; it took forever. I do the same (copy and pasting terrains) but instead of Google Maps, I scan the web for what suits me best. Here lately I've been using NASA images to get closer "satellite" images of specific countries/regions.


Oh okay. I guess that's what I'll have to continue doing as well - it's a lot of work but it seems to have paid off on your part!

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Here's a "night satellite" image of Paga showing the major cities and stuff. I've kind of quickly scrapped this together, so it might change in a few months.
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I must ask, how did you make those landmasses? Is there a neat gimp tutorial available to get nice-looking ones like yours? Mine always come out looking like random blobs when I try to do them by hand.

I draw it all out on paper and then scanned them onto my computer - then I painstakingly drew everything by hand. I also recently stretched my original landmass outlines and redrew them very large (like 2400 pixels wide for the entire planet) - and when you stretch it down smaller, the edges look fairly nice...original borders don't look as pretty though and they need a little cleaning up.
I don't know of any tutorials online, sorry.


OOOH PRETTY SHINING LIGHTS! :p Did you also copy and paste maps of cities at night, or did you just draw lights over top of the original map?

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I'm sorry but I must say it is somewhat over populated. Also it appears you forgot about deserts, forests and mountains. Also I see only a small area for tundra. These lights may have people but you should also take into consideration slums and ghettos. Otherwise it looks cool placement seems off.


I think I see light patches where there are deserts and dark patches for forests, all with sparse lights. If anything I think the metropolitan centres need to be brighter, but of course we don't know how Paga's population is spread out :).

But yeah, to reiterate what KiKi said - don't forget that poorer areas of the world may have a lot of people, but might not be as industrialized. Take this picture, for example; compare China, whose population is over a billion, and the eastern United States. The US has less people than China but a lot more city lights, due to much of China's population living in rural areas. These maps are better to show population density, rather than population as a whole.


Anyway, I love it! I'll attempt something like that soon with Alyrica (soon being in a month, when my finals are over =.=).

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