New CBB

I wanted something different for naming people for my culture, not just Fore- and Sur-name. So I invented this.

Take the name I use for myself everywhere (not here) these days "Valosken".
The name has a base "Valo", which means "Teacher of Wisdom" in the language. Sometimes the Noun might be changed for the sake of it being a name.
Now take the father's name. Uhmisko, base "Uhmit" which means 'Chaos', with the "sko" on the end.
And the mother's name. Rahalen, base "Raha" which means 'Peace' with the "len" on the end.
The bits on the end are in two parts, the first part, which is a consonant or two, and the second part, a vowel, possibly with a consonant too. Now because the child is a boy, the father's FIRST part comes FIRST and the mother's SECOND part comes SECOND. So sk- + -en = sken. Add this to the base to create "Valo-sken". If it were a girl, it would have been "Valolo". This way, everybody has ONE name, that is almost always unique to them, unless you mate with your sister and reuse or something. Obviously, the parents' names must have been made with 2 other endings each as well.

What do you think?

...How is this different from a patronym + matronym system other than that it's affixed to the given name instead of being a separate word?

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I guess I just reinvented a concept I've never heard of then.

We've all been there...

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俺はその証だ。

What, exactly, would that be?
Mother's first part first and father's second part second?
Or father's second part first and mother's first part second?

Have you tracked it between grandparent and grandchild?

What if
a man named Babezux and a woman named Ceciwov marry and have a son and daughter,
and a man named Didotis and a woman named Fofurep also marry and also have a son and a daughter,
and then Babezux's and Ceciwov's son marries Didotis and Fofurep's daughter and they have a son and a daughter,
and Didotis and Fofurep's son marries Babezux's and Ceciwov's daughter and they have a son and a daughter?
What will the names of the grandkids be?

I ask, because, it occurs to me you might have two "Mapudungu ropes" going on, rather than double-descent with a patrilineal unilineal-descent-group and a matrilineal u.d.g.


Might be cool!


What rickardspaghetti said.
Have you ever read the conlanging acronym "ANADEW", which stands for "whatever weird feature you've just tried to put into your conlang, A Natlang Already Does Even Worse"?
Something almost that strong applies, or nearly so, to concultures as well.

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It works on the last syllable with onset/rime.

Babezux + Ceciwov | Didotis + Fofurep
C-Son-zov + F-Daughter-ris | F-Son-tep + C-Daughter-wux
F-Grandson-zis | F-Granddaughter-rov | C-Grandson-tux | C-Granddaughter-wep

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I think I don't quite get it? Tell me whether the following is correct, please?
(Especially @Valoski, but @Micamo or anyone else, too.)

If there's something that every man gets from his father and passes on to his son(s), that's a patriclan name (or at least a marker for a patrilineal u.d.g.).

The "z" in "Babezux" and the "t" in "Didotis" appear to be that.

If there's something that every woman gets from her mother and passes on to her daughter(s), that's a matriclan name (or at least a marker for a matrilineal u.d.g.).

The "w" in "Ceciwov" and the "r" in "Fofurep" appear to be that.

So the onset of the "suffix" (or final) syllable traces the patriclan for male personal names but traces the matriclan for female personal names.

If there's something that every man gets from his mother and passes on to his daughter(s), but every woman gets from her father and passes on to her son(s), that's a Mapudungu-style "rope" name (or at least a marker for a Mapudung-"rope"-style u.d.g.).

The "ux" in Babezux goes to his daughter and then to her son, and the "is" in Didotis goes to his daughter and then to her son; while the "ov" in Ceciwov goes to her son and then to her daughter, while the "ep" in Fofurep goes to her son and then to his daughter.

(Is that right?)

So the rime of the "suffix" (or final) syllable traces a Mapudungu-style "rope" unilineal descent group in both male personal names and female personal names.

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@Valoski?

Are the patriclans exogamous? That is, for instance, is a man whose last syllable has "z" for an onset forbidden to marry the daughter or sister of any other man whose last syllable has "z" for an onset?

Are the matriclans exogamous? That is, for instance, is a woman whose last syllable has "r" for an onset forbidden to marry the son or brother of any other woman whose last syllable has "r" for an onset?

What about the "ropes" -- are they exogamous? Are two people whose last syllables have the same rime forbidden to marry each other?

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I'm not sure what's going on here...but just so I'm sure you understand...


Considering Valosken is a boy, and Swaranti is a girl.
Using Waki as a boy;
Valo-sken + Swaran-ti = Wakiski

Using Waki as a girl;
Swaran-ti + Valo-sken = Wakiten

That's how Micamo explained it.

Have you worked out what happens over two generations, that is, grandparent to grandchild (all combinations of sexes of grandparent and parent and child)?

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I will when I have the time XD.

Thanks, I look forward to it.

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