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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 18:52 
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Yes. I guess the term "Official Language" was a bad idea. The Government doesn't ban everything except Carsza, it's merely what all official documents are written in.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 18:55 
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Chagen wrote:
The Government doesn't ban everything except Carsza, it's merely what all official documents are written in.

Like constitutions and such?


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:01 
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Yes.

However, since Carsza is taught to everybody as a mandatory part of schooling (which is also mandatory), most media in Pazmat is made in Carsza anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:14 
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Chagen wrote:
Yes.

So you write like this;

"The Senate shall chuse their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States." ?


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:15 
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I have no idea what you're trying to ask me.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:17 
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Chagen wrote:
I have no idea what you're trying to ask me.

He's needling you about people speaking Spanish in the USA again.

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:19 
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Chagen wrote:
I have no idea what you're trying to ask me.

Do you think that the language of the "official documents" is static and immutable?

Solarius wrote:
He's needling you about people speaking Spanish in the USA again.

Not exactly.


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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 19:50 
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The official documents are translated to each of the official languages (they're about 20 or more).

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PostPosted: Tue 19 Jun 2012, 20:50 
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Milyamd wrote:
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The official documents are translated to each of the official languages (they're about 20 or more).

Yes, thank you. Wonderful example.


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 07:33 
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I did some searches, and came up dry, but I thought I should ask as a quick question before I started a new thread:

Has anybody already written up about a water world? I mean, a planet with no fixed land masses, only floating/swampy islands. My inspiration is Edgar Rice Burroughs, C.S. Lewis and Isaac Asimov:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_in_fiction#Swamp
I hadn't really thought about species other than humans, but I wanted to check before I spewed forth my thoughts.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 08:01 
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I've heard of no conwordling examples of this, but artificial islands made in swamps from reeds and mud occur in Indonesia by the hands of various tribes. Some even float too.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 09:37 
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There are also "sea-people" who, as the name implies, lies out to sea. Half-a-kilometer or so. The only real time they visit shore is when they die.

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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 23:34 
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Lodhas wrote:
I've heard of no conwordling examples of this, but artificial islands made in swamps from reeds and mud occur in Indonesia by the hands of various tribes. Some even float too.


the Aztecs made floating islands for farming...champas, I think.

and at least one New Guinea tribe actually makes the islands they later build their houses on. (it's in the second book of Going to Extremes by Professor Nick Middleton)


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Jul 2012, 23:40 
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IIRC the Incas made floating homes from reed.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 14:58 
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Building islands to live on is quite common amongst the Keoriki.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 17:48 
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Keenir wrote:
Lodhas wrote:
I've heard of no conwordling examples of this, but artificial islands made in swamps from reeds and mud occur in Indonesia by the hands of various tribes. Some even float too.


the Aztecs made floating islands for farming...chinampas, I think.


They indeed are man-made islands in lacustrine environments of Mexico, made from all sorts of rich gunk, rotted stuff, organic matter, partly dredged from the lake bottom, partly human-created. Although they belong to a family and are family property, as these get built up, they often join one others to make larger masses. Most of today's chinampas are huge contiguous strips/peninsulas of built up land. Very rich, very fertile. In the areas where most are today, they seem more like the land is what was there first, and the "channels" that divide them are what was dug out.

Another thing about chinampas. Native species of bald cypress and willow are planted at the four corners to help retain the chinampa in its proper rectangular shape. As a gardener, I can say [+1] very prudent use of those trees, since they naturally grow near water & their roots resist water-logging & water-rot.¡ Viva :mex: !


In Lago Titicaca, the Uros (hang on, now. I thought so, too, big Dark Crystal fan that I am. No, it's not the Mystics) make islands out of the native reeds, or totoras, They also make huts and boats out of totora as well. The Uros are Aymara-speaking, I believe, which is not Kechwa\Inca. But the totoras grow all over
:per: . Up north, in Paita, Talara, Cabo Blanco, Colan, they make little totora-thingies called balsas - the great grand uncle of the boogie-board (used similarly to body-surf). ¡Te [<3] :per: c*r*jo!

Also worth noting, the Marsh-Arab people of Mesopotamia (geez, okay...Iraq) make very elaborately woven reed houses called mudhif out of luffareeds. They also make reed boats as well, and build up their shoreline territory with dredged rotten riverbottom gunk and heaps of harvested reeds, sort of like a combination of the Uros and the Mexicans. What's especially cool about this is that there are carvings from Mesopotamian city-state ruins
(e.g. Ur, I think, I don't recall right now) like 3,000 years old that show mudhifs with almost exactly they same style & intricacy. Friggin 'A'!

Why do I know all this? Three reasons:

1) Thor Heyerdahl was mondo-huge in National Geographic circles when I started collecting them in the mid-seventies.

2) He theorized and executed the whole Ra-II voyage from Egypt (another huge-o reedboat culture) to South America.

3) One of the first concultural items I ever built was a replica reed-boat like what Thor Heyerdahl made. Not human sized, but it could carry 3 GI-Joe people rather comfortably from the Až Vadær to the Ebozayiš Vadærai ( approx. = from Atlantic to Pacific)

4) I used to teach ancient history in Middle School, and the kids loved when I brought in a small replica reed-boat
I had made.


reed-islands + reed-boats = Super SA-WEET! :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 18:40 
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The fictional "crannogmen" of GRR Martin's aSoI&F's Westeros build artificial islands. I don't remember anything in the series saying the crannogs (artificial islands) float, but the crannogmen "have no fixed address" except "somewhere in the fens".

"Crannog" is a real British or UKish word. I think it's Irish; maybe Scotch or Welsh instead or as well. Or maybe just plain English. Anyway they seem to have been built elsewhere in Europe as well, though I don't suppose they were called "crannogs" elsewhere.

At any rate the Fens are real-world English; Cromwell was "the Lord of the Fens" before the English Revolution (or at least so I understand it). (See also)

Note that real-world crannogs apparently were built in real-world lakes (and rivers and estuaries) rather than in real-world fens. That is, they were built in bodies of water, rather than in wetlands.

Martin's con-continent Westeros's crannogmen seem IIRC to build their crannogs in fens.

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 18:43 
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Your comment reminds me of the "Lake People" whose Neolithic remains have been found in bogs in Switzerland/Northern Italy.


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 21:07 
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I want to make geology of Isi like the Terran geology, just reversed. What do you think about that?


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PostPosted: Thu 05 Jul 2012, 21:43 
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Do you mean soft hot and molten on the outside, crunchy & crispy on the inside?

Sounds like the Twixx bar I just fished out of my pocket (yummy - but Eww).


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