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PostPosted: Tue 05 Jun 2012, 01:21 
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eldin raigmore wrote:
Or does it count as "moiety" only if marriage is one of the things that can only happen between people in opposite moieties?


This is the standard definition, AFAIK. If the kind of natculture you describe exists, it wouldn't be described as a moiety system.

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PostPosted: Wed 06 Jun 2012, 20:49 
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Micamo wrote:
This is the standard definition, AFAIK. If the kind of natculture you describe exists, it wouldn't be described as a moiety system.

OK, thanks.

I have read that a natculture like that exists in Africa. I am sorry that I don't know the name of the people nor do I remember where I read it.

The main feature of moiety-systems AIUI is that the culture is divided into two "halves". Most social interactions are allowed only between persons in opposite moieties; most others are allowed only between persons in the same moiety.

Clearly another part of the definition is that marriage is one of those interactions that can occur only between people of opposite moieties.

The system I described shares those features with a moiety system, but obviously a person's mother and father must be in the same half, namely, the half opposite that person's own half. So, since marriage isn't one of the interactions that can occur only between persons of opposite halves, this system is not strictly speaking a moiety system.




Another relaxation or broadening of the "moiety" idea is to cultures which are divided into more than two subsets; say, four or eight. (In these systems one cannot marry someone from one's own subset.) I've seen people call those "moieties", and seen other people correct them, or at least warn their readers.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Jun 2012, 22:43 
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OK, thanks.
I have read that a natculture like that exists in Africa. I am sorry that I don't know the name of the people nor do I remember where I read it.


Are you thinking about age sets? I don't think that this phenomenon has much to do with marriage though.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 20:02 
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smrk wrote:
Are you thinking about age sets?

Nope. The "age-sets" I was closest to familiar with were the Zuli impis. I was thinking of something else.


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I don't think that this phenomenon has much to do with marriage though.

I had the impression that the Zulus' impis did have a lot to do with marriage. An impi all got married at the same time; an impi of men was paired with an impi of women, and each person chose a husband or bride from the paired impi. Maybe that's wrong.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Jun 2012, 21:31 
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I had the impression that the Zulus' impis did have a lot to do with marriage. An impi all got married at the same time; an impi of men was paired with an impi of women, and each person chose a husband or bride from the paired impi. Maybe that's wrong.


You might be right. I don't recall reading anything about marriage with regard to age sets, but I may well have just forgot.

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