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Xonen: Split from Conversation Thread of the 3rd SPAM!.

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Why are we deleting this when it just resurfaces again? Who cares if it gets to a zillion pages when it causes no technological problems.

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Áá Āā Ää Åå Ææ Ðđ Ēē Ĕĕ Éé Ëë Əə H́h́ Īī İi Iı Íí Ïï Łł Ññ Öö Øø Ōō Ŏŏ Óó Œœ Ŕŕ Śś Ŧŧ Üü Ūū Úú V̄v̄ Ÿÿ Źź Ξ Φ Ϙ Ϻ

Problem is, you get scolded for just posting incoherent nonsense meant to start a conciliation with nobody (as sano learned). Most of this thread, when viewed in retrospect is just several conversations of varying length and topic, as opposed to mindless rambling for the sake of getting posts.

Besides, post count doesn't gain one any special rank or anything- so what's the fuss.

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Áá Āā Ää Åå Ææ Ðđ Ēē Ĕĕ Éé Ëë Əə H́h́ Īī İi Iı Íí Ïï Łł Ññ Öö Øø Ōō Ŏŏ Óó Œœ Ŕŕ Śś Ŧŧ Üü Ūū Úú V̄v̄ Ÿÿ Źź Ξ Φ Ϙ Ϻ

The 2k+ page thread was ridiculous.
When you make your own forums you can keep giant threads of nonsense as long as you want.

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Ikasmu ati'uki nai uraiur.
Hinai nimuśim naimi nai sasamiur urukani. Śi'ama nai huhumiur na ni'amuśim nai sasamiur.
Pumaki nimuśim śima'a na ami nimuśim ara'a. Hini nihrasum i'aku tumra urukani na nihrasum sanik hraspir.

I'm fine with locking the thread as it grows too big and starting a new one, but I do think the old posts should be archived somewhere instead of just deleted.

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To what end?

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Ikasmu ati'uki nai uraiur.
Hinai nimuśim naimi nai sasamiur urukani. Śi'ama nai huhumiur na ni'amuśim nai sasamiur.
Pumaki nimuśim śima'a na ami nimuśim ara'a. Hini nihrasum i'aku tumra urukani na nihrasum sanik hraspir.

So people can look through them if they want? Sometimes good stuff gets posted here and people want to look it up again. Chagen said he was looking for some of his conlang stuff posted here in the spam thread that is now forever lost.

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That's why we have a "go to page" button. Why does it matter so much that one thread could have a lot of pages?

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Áá Āā Ää Åå Ææ Ðđ Ēē Ĕĕ Éé Ëë Əə H́h́ Īī İi Iı Íí Ïï Łł Ññ Öö Øø Ōō Ŏŏ Óó Œœ Ŕŕ Śś Ŧŧ Üü Ūū Úú V̄v̄ Ÿÿ Źź Ξ Φ Ϙ Ϻ

ehh, the space on the server?

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When scientists in the future speak of our life-time they will say that most of the things, ideas that was possible for us to invent was never invented in our life-time because we hadn't yet invented the words to describe the components.

It actually takes up no real space.

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Áá Āā Ää Åå Ææ Ðđ Ēē Ĕĕ Éé Ëë Əə H́h́ Īī İi Iı Íí Ïï Łł Ññ Öö Øø Ōō Ŏŏ Óó Œœ Ŕŕ Śś Ŧŧ Üü Ūū Úú V̄v̄ Ÿÿ Źź Ξ Φ Ϙ Ϻ

I rest my case.

Seriously, though: Yes, this thread is meant for lighthearted conversation, and not for literally mindless spam (and especially not for flooding with mindless spam just to get in the way of other people's light-hearted conversation). Still, just looking at the last few pages here, over a half of people's posts seem to be one- or two-liners (and indeed, in some cases consist of a single word or smiley), and the "discussions" tend to go absolutely nowhere before moving onto a tangent, something totally random, or boobs. Also, people exchanging short messages in almost real time, basically using the board like some sort of IMS.

Not that there is anything wrong with that! But it does mean that participating in this thread can rapidly increase one's post count in a way that posting detailed descriptions of one's conlangs or thoughtful in-depth discussion on some other forum here cannot.


It does gain you post-count ranks. Personally, I'm not very interested in the rank system anyway, but as long as we have one (and one that at least by default is based on post count), then I do think lighthearted one-liners should count for less than longer, more thoughtful posts that actually show some effort. Of course, there are certainly lighthearted one liners in other threads, and probably some more serious posts in this thread as well. This is just a rough way to balance things out a bit; the board software doesn't really allow more precision here (short of hand-picking individual messages off threads for either saving or deleting based on how worthy they're deemed, but I don't think anyone wants to get into that).

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Good discussions (or those that seem to come up repeatedly like the one we're having right now ) can be split off into separate threads if desired. (EDIT: Like this. )

I'm open to suggestions. Anything specific in this the current conversation thread people think should be saved for posterity?

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Thakowsaizmu's post was related to the boobie topic we were discussing!

Besides, I said special rank- post count means nothing special and if people brag about it excessively the get scolded.

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Áá Āā Ää Åå Ææ Ðđ Ēē Ĕĕ Éé Ëë Əə H́h́ Īī İi Iı Íí Ïï Łł Ññ Öö Øø Ōō Ŏŏ Óó Œœ Ŕŕ Śś Ŧŧ Üü Ūū Úú V̄v̄ Ÿÿ Źź Ξ Φ Ϙ Ϻ

You know...
If you really want to save a post you can do so using the special steps described below!

Step 1. Highlight the text you are interested in.
Step 2. Push ctrl+c (or cmd+c).
Step C. Open Notepad (or TextEdit).
Step D. Push ctrl+v (or cmd+v).
Step 5. Save the file.

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Ikasmu ati'uki nai uraiur.
Hinai nimuśim naimi nai sasamiur urukani. Śi'ama nai huhumiur na ni'amuśim nai sasamiur.
Pumaki nimuśim śima'a na ami nimuśim ara'a. Hini nihrasum i'aku tumra urukani na nihrasum sanik hraspir.

I was baffled by this step when I first read it. I mean, "and how's entering block visual mode supposed to help?". Been using superior editors for too long, I guess.

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Of course I don't use the board as a personal storage area. If the grammar was something I really needed, I would have bookmarked it or saved in somewhere else. I only came to think of it because I was asked about it later. The point is that sometimes you don't know in advance if you'll need to go back and check some stuff later - which could speak in favour of preserving or archiving old threads. Then there might be other consideration that speak in favour of deletion.

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Yes well, I wasn't being entirely serious there, hence the smiley, paragraph break and beginning the following paragraph with "seriously, though". Posting nothing but the word "Boobs!" was just too perfect as a stereotypical example of an entirely mindless post not to point out there.

And let's be honest here. Yes, it happened to fit perfectly into the context in which it was posted - but it wasn't exactly what I'd call a thoughtful contribution to a deep and meaningful discussion. Just a bit of lighthearted fun. Again, nothing at all wrong with that, but not really a great loss to mankind if it gets deleted in a few months, either.


That's your personal opinion (and to some degree mine as well, incidentally). But the whole point of having a ranking system is that people pay at least some attention to each other's ranks, and on most boards I've been on, people with higher post count -based ranks are usually assumed to be either oldbies or active contributors; either way, more or less distinguished members of the community. And I just don't think inflating one's post count with one-liners in the chat thread should earn one that status.

Then again, I dunno. Maybe it is a bit different here with our multitude of special ranks and stuff. I've stopped paying much attention to rank on this board anyway.


Who the hell brags about their imaginary rank on an internet board anyway? I mean, yeah, I can understand one post along the lines of "yay, I just made my 600,000th post here and got this cool new avatar", but more than that is just, well, sad. Bragging rights really isn't the point.

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That's a point worth considering, certainly. Then again, a thread with a four-digit number of pages is a bitch to search through anyway, unless you remember exactly what search string to use. So at the very least, I think it'd still make sense to lock the threads at some point and start new ones.

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So? That was't the ambassador of all the posts in the thread. It's not like we'll oh, delete three hundred pages worth of sentimental value only to make another thread where the process repeats itself with increasing levels of pain.

Do we really need to do this over and over and over again?

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Haha! Yes! I was an example!

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Kotanese

The problem is it's hard to know what pieces of data are going to be valuable to you beforehand. Xing's papuan language he posted here, for example, was an offhand, throwaway response to another post. It wasn't until a year later, after the thread was deleted, that I remembered it and PM'd xing asking him where he found it. Unfortunately, he could not find it again for me.

Now, you could easily argue that this problem is my fault for not having planned ahead sufficiently well: I probably should have saved the PDF as soon as I saw it just in case I wanted it later (now a standard practice for me), but that's missing the point. The argument we should be having is: Is the benefit of archiving old threads instead of deleting them worth the extra effort and server space necessary to do this? I argue that the answer is yes: The benefit is small, but the cost is even smaller. If I remember correctly (it's been a long time since I've done modding work for a phpBB board) it's actually fewer clicks to archive a thread than to delete it.



Also, while we're debating spam thread policy, I propose we change the name back to "Micamo loves you all!"

...I liked it!

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Not all, maybe, but

IOW, basically in the same category as "Boobs!": a bit of lighthearted fun, completely fine as it is, but perhaps not really worth keeping around indefinitely. As I've said multiple times, if you think there's something specifically worth saving in the thread, please feel free to point it out so we can move it to a separate thread.


I... uh, wow. I'm not sure if caring this deeply about inane one-liners posted on the internet by people you don't know is good for you in the long run. But if you're serious about this, you can always print a copy of each page separately into a PDF file and save them on your own computer.

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Yeah, I'm not quite dickish enough to argue that, though. Not realizing you might want to look something up again a year from now is perfectly understandable, and as I said, that one is certainly a point worth considering.

And we are currently considering this among the administration. I don't think I'm at liberty to discuss what we've discussed so far, but we'll let you know when we've reached a decision. For the time being, though, it's safest to assume that the current policy of deleting the spam threads once they reach a certain length still applies.

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