What did you accomplish today?

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by ixals » Fri 11 May 2018, 20:44

eldin raigmore wrote:
Fri 11 May 2018, 02:48
“Orthography” of a language is whatever script is “native” to that language. I didn’t see you propose one yet. Did I just miss it?
That's why I was asking, was a bit confused because there was nothing written down about the orthography in that screenshot [:D]
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Fri 11 May 2018, 04:03
The Romanization.

"Blahblahblahblahblah"

Very interesting romanization. What does <hb> stand for?
Oh my, how did I not get that joke? [xD]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Ælfwine » Mon 14 May 2018, 03:55

In developing my romance language I realized the need to also recreate what kind of slavic language that the Avars probably spoke as a lingua franca. As it turns out, the best possible way for me to preserve a romance language in western Hungary was to preserve the slavonic speakers as well, perhaps by butterflying away the Hungarians to some extent and increasing Braslav's control of the region into its own unique political entity. This gives me the idea to toy with a slavic language in the area similar to ixal's Cissian, though in the west of Hungary instead of the east and including parts of Croatian Slavonia. I believe it would have a mixture of Czech, Slovene and Croatian characteristics, though I am not seriously pursuing it now but rather developing parts of it as I develop *Castellianu.

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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Khemehekis » Tue 15 May 2018, 07:55

It took more than twenty years, but Kankonian now has a word for "lexicostatistics": bakashakpraisiya.
Very interesting romanization. What does <hb> stand for?
It's inspired by Teonaht, and represents /β/.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by alynnidalar » Tue 15 May 2018, 22:42

I've been continuing my phonological analysis of Old Tirina, and after a lot of faffing about in a spreadsheet, here are some conclusions I've come to:

Theoretically, Old Tirina has geminated consonants. Practically, there are so few words that include them that they might as well not exist. I am giving serious thought to doing away with them for future words.

I treat Old Tirina as if it doesn't have diphthongs, but realistically, it absolutely does. In particular, it has a bunch of Və vowel sequences that surely must be the result of some kind of vowel breaking or reduction in the past. I need to revamp the sound changes to Modern Tirina to handle these in a more interesting (and more consistent) way. There's not a ton of long vowels in Old Tirina either, and I wonder if I can connect these two.

I need to use the glottal stop more frequently and more interestingly.

Consonant clusters make no sense. There's /tr kr gr/ but no /pr br dr/? Yet there's also /mr/? I need to figure out what clusters really are permissible. While I'm on the subject, I need to figure out where Modern Tirina clusters came from (where only /pr mr fr/ are acceptable). Syllable-final clusters are also weird: it appears basically any rC is valid, but I also have a bunch of /nd/ plus one instance of /ʃt/. Are any other ʃC clusters valid? What about nC?

It appears bilabial consonants can't appear in a syllable coda, with the exception of /m/. Why is /m/ an exception? I'll probably leave this as an irregularity and not try to explain it, as it's quite common in OT.

By far the most common syllable is /a/. (70 occurrences in my OT lexicon! Next most common was /i/ at 36.) A solid quarter of syllables had no onset and 55% had no coda. Of syllables with onsets, the most common were /d s g/. Of syllables with codas, the most common were /n m r/. Weirdly enough, the most common syllable with both an onset and a coda is not /dan/, which occurred just once in my data, but /ben/.

Finally, you probably should have an excuse prepared when a coworker stops by your desk and asks what on earth you're working on, as "I'm doing phonological analysis of a fictional language" isn't likely to yield a good response. I went with "character frequency stuff", myself.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » Wed 16 May 2018, 12:44

alynnidalar wrote:
Tue 15 May 2018, 22:42
Theoretically, Old Tirina has geminated consonants. Practically, there are so few words that include them that they might as well not exist. I am giving serious thought to doing away with them for future words.
I'd keep them, declaring them a relictual feature or only coming from borrowings or something like this.
It appears bilabial consonants can't appear in a syllable coda, with the exception of /m/. Why is /m/ an exception? I'll probably leave this as an irregularity and not try to explain it, as it's quite common in OT.
Can it be due to assimilation?
Finally, you probably should have an excuse prepared when a coworker stops by your desk and asks what on earth you're working on, as "I'm doing phonological analysis of a fictional language" isn't likely to yield a good response. I went with "character frequency stuff", myself.
I feel your pain. [:'(]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » Wed 16 May 2018, 22:47

Today I finished working with an artist who made a series of pictures of people from The World. Five queens of various countries in the Eastlands.

Certainly blows my poor pen & pencil sketches out of the proverbial water!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by alynnidalar » Thu 17 May 2018, 03:49

Oh, very cool! I hope we get to see these pictures!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by gestaltist » Thu 17 May 2018, 10:23

elemtilas wrote:
Wed 16 May 2018, 22:47
Today I finished working with an artist who made a series of pictures of people from The World. Five queens of various countries in the Eastlands.

Certainly blows my poor pen & pencil sketches out of the proverbial water!
Will you be posting them? There's hoping!
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » Thu 17 May 2018, 11:42

gestaltist wrote:
Thu 17 May 2018, 10:23
elemtilas wrote:
Wed 16 May 2018, 22:47
Today I finished working with an artist who made a series of pictures of people from The World. Five queens of various countries in the Eastlands.

Certainly blows my poor pen & pencil sketches out of the proverbial water!
Will you be posting them? There's hoping!
alynnidalar wrote:Oh, very cool! I hope we get to see these pictures!
By and by, yes! They're way too good to pass up on. It is a series of five great Queens of the Eastlands. Not necessarily contemporaneous, but Westmarche, Auntimoany, Ruadram, Saraqûn, and Demariê are the subjects of this series.

I will have to work on their biographies, though, before making them public.
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Lambuzhao » Thu 17 May 2018, 14:31

elemtilas wrote:
Thu 17 May 2018, 11:42
gestaltist wrote:
Thu 17 May 2018, 10:23
elemtilas wrote:
Wed 16 May 2018, 22:47
Today I finished working with an artist who made a series of pictures of people from The World. Five queens of various countries in the Eastlands.

Certainly blows my poor pen & pencil sketches out of the proverbial water!
Will you be posting them? There's hoping!
alynnidalar wrote:Oh, very cool! I hope we get to see these pictures!
By and by, yes! They're way too good to pass up on. It is a series of five great Queens of the Eastlands. Not necessarily contemporaneous, but Westmarche, Auntimoany, Ruadram, Saraqûn, and Demariê are the subjects of this series.

I will have to work on their biographies, though, before making them public.
Sounds toe-tappingly good!

Cannot wait to see, though I am partial to those drawingsin el estilo elemtilesco
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by Fluffy8x » Thu 17 May 2018, 14:40

Not strictly a today thing, but a few days ago, I started working on my own sound change applier. It has basic features (though it works quite differently from other sound change appliers), but it might be lacking in more advanced stuff. I do plan on adding features needed to express the sound changes from Middle Rymakonian to Modern Rymakonian.

Anything this seems to be missing that I didn't already list in the details?
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by elemtilas » Thu 17 May 2018, 18:17

Lambuzhao wrote:
Thu 17 May 2018, 14:31
Sounds toe-tappingly good!
I think so! I am very excited about how well all the images came out!

This will be the fourth person who I've gotten World related artwork from thus far. I'm pleased thus far with all of them, but this is the first time I've actually done a proper commission with. Even just the proposals, background information, rough sketches and so forth amounts to about a twenty-five page document!
Cannot wait to see, though I am partial to those drawings in el estilo elemtilesco
:mrgreen:
Well, I appreciate the compliment! Though I do wonder who your optometrist is! [:P]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?

Post by masako » Fri 18 May 2018, 19:43

Today I reached 311 glyphs with Omyatloko.
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