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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 03:05 
hieroglyphic
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I'm sure someone has probably done this before, but since I don't really have the knowledge or resources to do this I wanted to know what you guys would come up with

Scenario: The year is 1588, or something like that. Except this time the Spanish successfully conquer England, assuming that the occupation proceeds much like the Norman conquest (Spanish becoming the language of nobility for a while) how might the phonology, grammar and vocabulary change? Remember that I am assuming that within a few generations England is free again through rebellion or something of the sort, so the language should feel more English than Spanish all in all. also, could English then be considered a Romance Language? some one jokingly called this concept Spanglish.

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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 11:38 
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Interesting scenario. But you have TWO languages to consider, if you are basing it on the Norman Conquest. Remember, there was Middle English AND Anglo-Norman French.
Middle English eventaully became modern English, and, while Anglo-Norman French is basically extinct as a productive language, it did have about 300 years of vitality on the British Isles.
So consider:
1) the state of :eng: as influenced by the conquerors (of which you do speak to )
2) the state of :esp: (i.e which regional dialect(s) did the would-be conquerors speak? By the late 1500's, I would presume an early modern variety of Castilian, but one needs to check further.)

Since "Spanglish" is used more for the modern (20th century) mash-ups of :eng: and :esp: spoken around the world, maybe call this "Spaniel", "Spañolés" ?

For similar contact phenomena, you want to at least chequear the Llanito tongue of Gibraltar, the Spanglish of Argentine Brits, and the Spanish~Crucian creole spoken on the island of Saint Croix.

An interesting scenario, to be sure.


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PostPosted: Wed 13 Feb 2013, 13:29 
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