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 Post subject: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 20:44 
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All of us occasionally have little ideas that we don't have the time or interest to develop. So here's a thread for them.
Here are some of my mini-ideas:
-A descendant of Koine Greek spoken on the edges of the Caucasus. It has evolved ejectives, nasalized vowels, labialized consonants, and a 2-vowel system. It is also split-ergative and is heavily agglutinating.
-An experimental "alien" conlang with immovable word order(no transformations) and a very specific class of words which encode both the subject and the object.
-A Mandarin-Tlingit creole.
-A European isolate spoken in Spain. It shares some features with Basque (laminal-apical contrast, Ergativity), and Proto-Basque(no m). It however, is most influenced by Semitic thanks to Phoenician colonists who picked up the language, and even has partially developed triconsonantal roots.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 20:59 
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A European isolate that has managed to mix isolating East Asian typological features with SAE through contact.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 23:30 
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Sounds like Kebreni. :-P

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 23:34 
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How?

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Tue 25 Oct 2011, 23:46 
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Solarius wrote:
-A Mandarin-Tlingit creole.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 02:02 
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roninbodhisattva wrote:
How?

Not that much, just in broad strokes. Kebreni has some East Asian features, but also has European influence. My apologies if you took it the wrong way.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 02:29 
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Solarius wrote:
roninbodhisattva wrote:
How?

Not that much, just in broad strokes. Kebreni has some East Asian features, but also has European influence. My apologies if you took it the wrong way.

I wasn't insulted, just confused.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 03:26 
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A language derived from symbols and writing and later developed sounds...

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 03:41 
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Solarius wrote:
-An experimental "alien" conlang with immovable word order(no transformations) and a very specific class of words which encode both the subject and the object.

This reminds me a bit of my conlang Kannow, which encodes both the subject and the object on the verb and so far has a completely fixed word order.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 07:38 
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Nortaneous wrote:
Solarius wrote:
-An experimental "alien" conlang with immovable word order(no transformations) and a very specific class of words which encode both the subject and the object.

This reminds me a bit of my conlang Kannow, which encodes both the subject and the object on the verb and so far has a completely fixed word order.


I don't know anything about Kannow, but how does this differ from regular head-marking? Do you mean that both subject and object are incorporated?

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 07:43 
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A language with adjectives as the only (open) part of speech.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:33 
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A language that involves sounds made by parts of the body other than the mouth.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 13:40 
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A south Caucasian language that went through a huge consonant simplification and developed rounded vowels due to Turkic influence.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 15:18 
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A Japanese descendent.

A Germanic Language/Japanese creole (don't even ask how that would happen)

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:03 
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MONOBA wrote:
A south Caucasian language that went through a huge consonant simplification and developed rounded vowels due to Turkic influence.

You know, that actually sounds quite interesting.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:06 
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Valoski wrote:
A language that involves sounds made by parts of the body other than the mouth.


It's called body language... Hum... Wait... Whut? @_@


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:19 
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Ceresz wrote:
MONOBA wrote:
A south Caucasian language that went through a huge consonant simplification and developed rounded vowels due to Turkic influence.

You know, that actually sounds quite interesting.


Maybe when I'm done with Siųa and I'm rich and famous, I'll start doing that. I need something different enough that it won't be like Siųa. I've been trying to start a new conlang to freshen things up, but it always ends up becoming Siųa again.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:36 
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MONOBA wrote:
Maybe when I'm done with Siųa and I'm rich and famous, I'll start doing that. I need something different enough that it won't be like Siųa. I've been trying to start a new conlang to freshen things up, but it always ends up becoming Siųa again.

:lol: Sounds good. I can imagine spending so much time and effort on one project would make it a bit harder to "think outside the box", if you know what I mean (I'm sure you do). I guess you could always derive another language from the proto-language... but that would probably end up like a different version of Siųa, I guess. Other than that, I dunno. Maybe you just have to take a break for a while before being able to create something different.

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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:46 
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Creating another of the Alopian languages has crossed my mind more than once. From what I have now, it would be wildly different. The Costal Olma language is so distant from Siųa that it'd just be like working within Indo-European, but on Irish and Sanskrit.


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 Post subject: Re: Conlang mini-ideas
PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct 2011, 16:52 
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Sounds very exciting. Just be sure to share some information from time to ;-). I'd love to see something on Proto-Alopian as well, especially the sound changes that created Siųa as I'm currently working on a language family project of my own. I'm still fleshing out the proto-lang, though. It's a slow process, but it's fun.



Sorry for not sharing any 'mini-ideas' -- most of my ideas go into my current project in one form or another.



Edit: Actually, I found this. Google is apparently my friend.

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