Indo-European diachronic collablang

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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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I'm for!
A tonal indo european conlkang would be interesting.
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Viorp wrote:I'm for!
A tonal indo european conlkang would be interesting.
I assume you mean you'd be for what's quoted below?
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qwed117 wrote:Here it is
Would people be OK with an order we didn't vote on, if I remember correctly?
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A continuation from here.

New questions:

140. The locative and instrumental cases are being merged, and the endings used will be taken from both former cases, with a split based on number. From which case will the singular endings be taken?

a). Locative.
b). Instrumental.

141. We're going to continue making decisions regarding syntax, primarily word order. Which should we decide on next?

a). The general word order of sentences/clauses (the relative positions of the verb and its arguments, etc.).
b). We should focus first on some other aspect of syntax/word order (please elaborate).
c). We should focus on something else entirely (please elaborate).

Help and suggestions are always welcome. I'm still trying to get my bearings back in regards to this language and the decisions we've made so far, so please bear with me. Thank you all so much for your patience and participation.
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140) b
141) a
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140: a b
141: a
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Last chance to vote in this round!
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Results for Questions #140-141:
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140. The locative and instrumental cases are being merged, and the endings used will be taken from both former cases, with a split based on number. From which case will the singular endings be taken?

a). Locative. 1
b). Instrumental. 2


The instrumental case's singular endings and the locative case's plural endings will be used for the new case resulting from the merger of the locative and instrumental cases.

141. We're going to continue making decisions regarding syntax, primarily word order. Which should we decide on next?

a). The general word order of sentences/clauses (the relative positions of the verb and its arguments, etc.). 2
b). We should focus first on some other aspect of syntax/word order (please elaborate).
c). We should focus on something else entirely (please elaborate).

We will decide on the general word order of sentences and clauses next.

New questions:

142. Looking at just the subject, object, and verb, what will our unmarked word order be for sentences?

a). SOV.
b). SVO.
c). VSO.
d). VOS.
e). OSV.
f). OVS.

143. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?

a). Yes.
b). No.

Taken from the last post:

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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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142: a b
143: a
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shimobaatar wrote:142: a b
143: a
What cases do we have right now?
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142. Looking at just the subject, object, and verb, what will our unmarked word order be for sentences?
a). SOV.

143. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?

b). No. (interrogatives, complement clauses and indirect speech are VSO)
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qwed117 wrote: What cases do we have right now?
First, the vocative was lost, and merged with the accusative. Then, the ablative was merged with the locative. After that, the locative was merged with the instrumental, and the dative was merged with the genitive. Finally, the accusative was merged with the genitive.

I believe that leaves us with:

Nominative
Instrumental(-Locative-Ablative)
Genitive(-Dative-Accusative-Vocative)
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142) b
143) a
At kveldi skal dag lęyfa,
Konu es bręnnd es,
Mæki es ręyndr es,
Męy es gefin es,
Ís es yfir kømr,
Ǫl es drukkit es.
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142) SOV, like Tibetan
143) B
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Results for Questions #142-143:
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142. Looking at just the subject, object, and verb, what will our unmarked word order be for sentences?

a). SOV. 3
b). SVO. 2
c). VSO.
d). VOS.
e). OSV.
f). OVS.

Our unmarked word order will be SOV.

143. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?

a). Yes. 2
b). No. 2

A tiebreaker is necessary.

New questions:

144. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?

a). Yes.
b). No.

145. Now looking at oblique arguments as well, what should our default, unmarked word order be?

a). SOVX.
b). SOXV.
c). SXOV.
d). XSOV.

Taken from the last post:

Help and suggestions are always welcome. I'm still trying to get my bearings back in regards to this language and the decisions we've made so far, so please bear with me. Thank you all so much for your patience and participation.
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Re: Indo-European diachronic collablang

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144: b
145: a b c
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144) b
145) bd
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144. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?
a). Yes.

145. Now looking at oblique arguments as well, what should our default, unmarked word order be?

a). SOVX.
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144. b
145. bd
At kveldi skal dag lęyfa,
Konu es bręnnd es,
Mæki es ręyndr es,
Męy es gefin es,
Ís es yfir kømr,
Ǫl es drukkit es.
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Results for Questions #144-145:
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144. Will we have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses?

a). Yes. 1
b). No. 3

We will not have the same unmarked word order in all kinds of clauses.

145. Now looking at oblique arguments as well, what should our default, unmarked word order be?

a). SOVX. 2
b). SOXV. 3
c). SXOV. 1
d). XSOV. 2

Our default, unmarked word order will be SOXV.


Please suggest kinds of clauses that might have word orders differing from the default SOXV. The next round of questions will be based on your input here.
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Complement clauses, interrogative clauses, indirect speech.
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