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Re: Caber Logograms

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I hope you don't mind, but went ahead and made a font of your script:

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It's a real hack font, so MS Word's formatting doesn't understand or like the underlines of the prepositions at all, because it's actually mixing CJK and Latin ranges with zero-width characters, and normally Word likes to fiddle with the spacing of the CJK range and how it interacts with the Latin range. A less advanced word processor (e.g. notepad) won't bother to impose its own formatting and will display it properly.

Also I couldn't fully determine the meaning of ưǧo, so I had trouble deciding on an appropriate character to map it to.

If you like the font and would like a copy, just let me know (or if you dislike it and want me to get rid of it, let me know). Also, given the relatively simple design of the script, it's not especially difficult for me to add new characters if you design more.
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[:D] !!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is so cool! I love it! I would love a copy of that font! Thank you so much!
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Sure, I'll upload a copy when I have time. But first, can you let me know the meaning of ưǧo (the one that appears last in the big block of characters in my post) so that I can map it to an appropriate character?
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My apologies—ưǧo means "anything".
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Ah, a tricky one to find a CJK glyph for. Thanks, I'll do my best.
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Apologies for the angle on this; I was at a restaurant, writing on the back of the disposable place setting, and I didn't want my shadow to cover the glyphs:

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Top row: śimo "friend", calau "grip", garưp "claw", mưś "impale"
Bottom row: omesơ "stick", co "cattle, cow", ača "snail", śimobatar "friendship"

Also, two I just thought up but have no glyphs for: maś "pit", ćưcư "red".
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Linguifex wrote:śimobatar "friendship"
I'm not the only one to use people's users as words...
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Linguifex wrote:Apologies for the angle on this; I was at a restaurant, writing on the back of the disposable place setting, and I didn't want my shadow to cover the glyphs:

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These look really cool, as usual!
Linguifex wrote:calau "grip", garưp "claw"
[+1] [:D]
Linguifex wrote:śimo "friend"
Linguifex wrote:śimobatar "friendship"
[<3]
Linguifex wrote:Also, two I just thought up but have no glyphs for: maś "pit", ćưcư "red".
In addition to the glyphs themselves, I also really like the looks and sounds of the romanized words. ača "snail" is probably my favorite out of this newest "batch", aside from the ones specifically quoted above.
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A new daughterlang based on Mexico City Spanish of the late 1800s (based largely on Marden, Charles Carroll (1896), "The Phonology of the Spanish Dialect of Mexico City". PMLA 11(1):85 – 150, and on my own [limited] knowledge of Spanish).

(t)ɕ (d)ʑ → x ɣ
ə ɨ → ɛ i
ts dz → s z
p → f
b → Ø / #_
f → h / ! _{u,w}{ɛ,i}
b → Ø / _C ! _l
d → Ø / a_{ɔ,a}
d → Ø / _#
d → l / _m
d → g / _r
ɣ → j / _ɛ
ɣ → w
s → z / _C[+ voiced]
k g → s z / _E
ɛ → Ø / i_
u → Ø / _{ɔ,ɛ}
ɛ → i / _C"V
i → ɛ / _(C)"i
ɔ → w / _"V
ɔ ɛ → u i / _{l,ɾ}
s → Ø / _#{l,ɾ}
x → Ø / #_
h → Ø
n{j,i} → ɲ / _V
n → ŋ / _#
n → Ø / _{s,x}C
g → Ø / _{u,w}{ɔ,a}
K → Ø / ! w
{k,g} → j / {a,ɛ}_{t,d,ts,dz,s,z}
{k,g} → Ø / _{t,d,ts,dz,s,z}
g → Ø / _n
ɾ → Ø / _#
b d g → β ð ɣ / V_V
Two identical high vowels in a row drop one
High vowels next to a nonhigh vowel become glides
Two high vowels in a row turn the unstressed one into a glide

If I did this right, this is how the Seven Kill Stele should develop:

Common Caber:
Ǧoso do śe har caber ru bưfec rưi čosod. [dzɔsɔ dɔ ɕɛ xaɾ kabɛɾ ɾu bɨfɛk rɨi tsɔsɔd]
Caber gat ec ưǧo not śe bưf śe do ǧoso tama. [kabɛɾ gat ɛk ɨdzɔ nɔt ɕɛ bɨf ɕɛ dɔ dzɔsɔ tama]
Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. [ɾin ɾin ɾin ɾin ɾin ɾin ɾin]

New daughterlang:
Zoso do e a cabi ru iek rei soso. [zɔsɔ dɔ ɛ a caβi ɾu jɛk ɾɛj sɔsɔ]
Cabi gat ec izo not e i e do zoso tama. [kaβi gat ɛk izɔ nɔt ɛ i ɛ dɔ zɔsɔ tama]
Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. Rin. [ɾiŋ ɾiŋ ɾiŋ ɾiŋ ɾiŋ ɾiŋ ɾiŋ]
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[+1] [tick] :!: [<3] [B)]
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Again, I did this without the use of a sound change applier, so hopefully my mistakes were minimal.

cabe "person" > cabe [kaβɛ]
caber "people (collective)" > cabi [kaβi]
rubes "ball, sphere, circle" > rubes [ɾuβɛs] (rube [ruβɛ] when the following word begins with /ɾ/)
fe "of" > e [ɛ]
bưf "and" > i
bưcuś "but, except" > icuj [ikux]
ec "NEGATIVE" > ec [ɛk]
śemuc "or" > imuc [imuk]
mưgưi "zero" > mizei [mizɛj]
bưćơ "one" > ije [ixɛ]
bơći "two" > eji [ɛxi]
ǵeśac "three" > ijac [ixak]
račboć "four" > razboc [ɾazbɔk]
ơ "five" > e [ɛ]
śeư "six" > i
seśo "hand" > sijo [sixɔ]
bosa "water" > osa [ɔsa]
ćơ "fire" > e [ɛ]
čư "tree" > si [si]
ru "give" > ru [ɾu]
ruơa "pole" > ruia [ɾuja]
ča "wind" > sa [sa]
eseć "hear" > isej [isɛx]
bưbư "see" > ibi [iβi]
ota "take" > ota [ɔta]
"kick" > de [dɛ]
čengac "smell" > singac [siŋgak]
ơgoc "leg" > igoc [iɣɔk]
nici "spine" > nesi [nɛsi]
nuơc "road" > nec [nɛk]
rưsaco "break, split" > risaco [risakɔ]
ćưiu "fall" > iu [ju]
ćưa "QUESTION" > ia [ja]
hưr "speak, say" > i
besrơ "mountain" > ezre [ɛzɾɛ]
ba "DEFINITE" > a [a]
cać "think" > caj [kax]
"boat" > ne [nɛ]
caơ "bean" > cai [kaj]
śuśo "drop" > ujo [uxɔ]
ǧatfum "walk" > zatum [zatum]
ǧubśư "place, area" > zuji [zuxi]
cưgrưni "knot" > zigreni [zigɾɛni]
huśơ "vine" > uji [uxi]
mačư "throw, toss" > masi [masi]
ćưcơ "ramp, inclined plane" > ize [izɛ]
ưbacư "screw" > ibasi [iβasi]
reśu "twist; weave" > riju [ɾixu]
mesơ "bed, mattress" > mise [misɛ]
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Old North Caber to North Caber

ɔ ɛ → u i / _K
C[- voice] → C[+ voice] / V_V
V[- stress] → Ø
Ø → ə / #_RO
Voicing assimilation
ɕ ʑ tɕ dʑ → s z ts dz
VN → V[+ nasalized] / _#
x → ʃ
ɾ → d
ɨ → ə

Dzos do se ša gba u bvic i tsod.
[dzɔs dɔ sɛ ʃa gba u bvik i tsɔd]
Gba gat ic dzo not se bǝf se do dzos tą.
[gba gat ik dzɔ nɔt sɛ bəf sɛ dɔ dzɔs tã]
Į. Į. Į. Į. Į. Į. Į.
[ĩ ĩ ĩ ĩ ĩ ĩ ĩ]

Old Northeast Caber to Northeast Caber

j → Ø / E_C
wa ja → ɔ ɛ
v z ʑ ɣ → w ɾ j ɦ
S → F / #_
{θ,ð} → Ø
u → ɨ / ! ɔ_
ɔ{w,u} → u
ʎ → ɕ / _E
ʎ → j
ɔ ə ɛ → u ɨ i / _#
ɨ → əɪ

Zyzu u śi hol hywal lu vywec śi suzol.
[zəɪzu u ɕi xɔl xəɪwal lu vəɪwɛk ɕi suzɔl]
Hywal et ec yzu not śi vyf śi u zuzu yma.
[xəɪwal ɛt ɛk əɪzu nɔt ɕi vəɪf ɕi u zuzu əɪma]
Lin. Lin. Lin. Lin. Lin. Lin. Lin.
[lin lin lin lin lin lin lin]

Old Southeast Caber to Southeast Caber

v z ɣ → Ø ɾ w
ɔ ɛ → o e
x → h
h → Ø / _{C,#}
u → ɨ
{ɨ,i} → j / _V
{ɨ,i} → j / V_
əj → ɨ
kj gj → c ɟ
{aw,wa} {aj,ja} → ɔ ɛ
l → n
j → Ø / C_E

Dơro do śe hal cèn nu beś nư tơrưn.
[dəɾo do ɕe hal kɛn nu beɕ nɨ təɾɨn]
Cèn gat eś ưdo nơt śe bưf śe do dơro tǫ̀.
[kɛn gat eɕ ɨdo nət ɕe bɨf ɕe do dəɾo tɔ̃]
Nįr. Nįr. Nįr. Nįr. Nįr. Nįr. Nįr.
[nĩɾ nĩɾ nĩɾ nĩɾ nĩɾ nĩɾ nĩɾ]

Old South Caber to South Caber

f → h
V[- stressed] → semivowel / _V
V[- stressed] → semivowel / V_
ʑ → j / #_
{ju,uj} → y
{wɔ,ɔw} {jɔ,ɔj} → u ø
{wa,aw} {ja,aj} → o e
{jɛ,ɛj} {wɛ,ɛw} → e ø
{wi,wɨ,ɨw,iw} → y
ɨ → i
a → ɔ / _#
ɛ e → a i / _K
VN → V[+ nasalized] / _{C,#}
S R → S[+ prenasalized] N / _V[+ nasalized]
V[+ nasalized] → V[- nasalized]
ə → a
o e → u i / unstressed
h → s / E_E
h → Ø

Droz do é ǥro góre ru bisic ray drosod.
[dɾɔz dɔ e ɣɾɔ ˈgoɾɛ ɾu biˈsik ɾaj dɾɔˈsɔd]
Góre gat ik idz not é bi é do droz dab.
[ˈgoɾɛ gat ik idz nɔt e bi e dɔ dɾɔz dab]
Ri. Ri. Ri. Ri. Ri. Ri. Ri.
[ɾi ɾi ɾi ɾi ɾi ɾi ɾi]

Mute Caber to Mute Caber A

VS → Vˀ / _U
VN → V[+ one tone lower] / _U
V → ə / unstressed (sesquisyllabic)
F → [+ voiced] / V_V
S → [+ fricative] / V_V
ə → Ø
a → ɔ / K_
ɨ → ə / N_
ɨ → i

Do⁵ do² ñe² ngo¹ co³ vẻ¹ nǝ⁴ tỏ⁵.
[dɔ˧˥ dɔ˨ ɲɛ˨ ŋɔ˩ kɔ˧ vɛˀ˩ nə˦ tɔˀ˧˥]
Ko³ gỏ² ẻ² đo² nỏ² ñe² uf² ñe² do² do⁵ tma².
[kɔ˧ gɔˀ˨ ɛˀ˨ ðɔ˨ nɔˀ˨ ɲɛ˨ uf˨ ɲɛ˨ dɔ˨ dɔ˧˥ tma˨]
Ni¹. Ni¹. Ni¹. Ni¹. Ni¹. Ni¹. Ni¹.
[ni˩ ni˩ ni˩ ni˩ ni˩ ni˩ ni˩]
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Re: Caber Logograms

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More on Mute Caber A

Base sound changes:

VS → Vˀ / _U
VN → V[+ one tone lower] / _U
V → ə / unstressed (sesquisyllabic)
F → [+ voiced] / V_V
S → [+ fricative] / V_V
ə → Ø / sesquisyllabic
Place assimilation of nasals
Regressive voicing assimilation
w → f / _C[- voice]
w → v / _C[+ voice]
a → ɔ / K_
ɨ → ə / N_
ɨ → i
s z → ts dz / N_
F → S[+ voice] / N_

So what we eventually end up with is a series of prenasalized stops as well.

cabe "person" > ká > ko⁴
caber "people (collective)" > kán > ko³
rubes "ball, sphere, circle" > núh > nuh⁴
fe "of" > mɛ̀ > me²
bưf "and" > wɨ̀f > wif²
bưcuś "but, except" > wɨ̀kɨ̀s > fḵis²
ec "NEGATIVE" > ɛ̀k > ẻ²
śemuc "or" > ɲɛ̀mùk > ñmủ²
mưgưi "zero" > mɨ̀gɨ́ > ngi⁴
bưćơ "one" > wɨ̀tə̀ > fŧǝ²
bơći "two" > wə̀tì > fŧi²
ǵeśac "three" > dɛ̀sàk > dzả²
račboć "four" > nàtwɔ̀t > ndwỏ²
ơ "five" > ə̀ > ə²
śeư "six" > ɲɛ́ > ñe³
seśo "hand" > nɛ̀sɔ̀ > ndzo²
bosa "water" > wɔ̌ > wo⁵
ćơ "fire" > tə̀ > tə²
čư "tree" > tɨ̀ > ti²
ru "give" > nù > nu²
ruơa "pole" > núà > na²
ča "wind" > tà > ta²
eseć "hear" > ɛ̌t > ẻ⁵
bưbư "see" > wɨ̀wɨ̀ > wi²
ota "take" > ɔ̀tà > ŧa²
dơ "kick" > də̀ > də²
čengac "smell" > tɛ̂gàk > dǥả²
ơgoc "leg" > ə̀gɔ̀k > ǥỏ²
nici "spine" > nìkì > ngi²
nuơc "road" > núk > nủ⁴
rưsaco "break, split" > nɨ̌kɔ̀ > ngo²
ćưiu "fall" > tɨ́ù > tu²
ćưa "QUESTION" > tɨ́ > ti⁴
hưr "speak, say" > ŋɨ̀n > ǹǝ¹
besrơ "mountain" > wɛ̂hə̀ > fǝ²
ba "DEFINITE" > wà > wo²
cać "think" > kàt > cả²
nơ "boat" > nə̀ > nə²
caơ "bean" > ká > ka⁴
śuśo "drop" > ɲùsɔ̀ > ndzo²
ǧatfum "walk" > tàtfùm > tfu¹
ǧubśư "place, area" > tùwsɨ̀ > dvzi²
cưgrưni "knot" > kɨ̀ghɨ̀nì > kig2ni²
huśơ "vine" > xùsə̀ > ǥzǝ²
mačư "throw, toss" > màtɨ̀ > ndi²
ćưcơ "ramp, inclined plane" > tɨ̀kə̀ > tḵǝ²
ưbacư "screw" > ɨ̀wàkɨ̀ > if²ḵi²
reśu "twist; weave" > nɛ̀sù > ndzu²
mesơ "bed, mattress" > mě > me⁵
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Mute Caber to Mute Caber B

h → Ø
V → Ø / _V
k g ŋ → t d n / V_{C,#}
CV → VC / #_
ɛ i → ɛə iə / K_
f → p / _#
wɨ ɨ → u i
wə ə → ɔ ɛ
V → ə / unstressed (sesquisyllabic)
m → w
N → Ø / _N
˧˥ → ˥
ŋ → n / #_
wa → ɔ
w → Ø / C_C

cabe "person" > ká > ká
caber "people (collective)" > kán > kán
rubes "ball, sphere, circle" > núh > nú
fe "of" > mɛ̀ > mè
bưf "and" > wɨ̀f > ùp
bưcuś "but, except" > wɨ̀kɨ̀s > əwkìs
ec "NEGATIVE" > ɛ̀k > èt
śemuc "or" > ɲɛ̀mùk > əwùt
mưgưi "zero" > mɨ̀gɨ́ > əngí
bưćơ "one" > wɨ̀tə̀ > ətè
bơći "two" > wə̀tì > ətì
ǵeśac "three" > dɛ̀sàk > ətsàt
račboć "four" > nàtwɔ̀t > əntwòt
ơ "five" > ə̀ > è
śeư "six" > ɲɛ́ > ñé
seśo "hand" > nɛ̀sɔ̀ > ənsò
bosa "water" > wɔ̌ > wő
ćơ "fire" > tə̀ > tè
čư "tree" > tɨ̀ > tì
ru "give" > nù > nù
ruơa "pole" > núà > nú
ča "wind" > tà > tà
eseć "hear" > ɛ̌t > e̋t
bưbư "see" > wɨ̀wɨ̀ > əù
ota "take" > ɔ̀tà > ətà
dơ "kick" > də̀ > dè
čengac "smell" > tɛ̂gàk > ədgàt
ơgoc "leg" > ə̀gɔ̀k > əgòt
nici "spine" > nìkì > ənkìə
nuơc "road" > núk > nút
rưsaco "break, split" > nɨ̌kɔ̀ > ənkò
ćưiu "fall" > tɨ́ù > tí
ćưa "QUESTION" > tɨ́ > tí
hưr "speak, say" > ŋɨ̀n > nìn
besrơ "mountain" > wɛ̂hə̀ > wê
ba "DEFINITE" > wà > ò
cać "think" > kàt > kàt
nơ "boat" > nə̀ > nè
caơ "bean" > ká > ká
śuśo "drop" > ɲùsɔ̀ > ənsò
ǧatfum "walk" > tàtfùm > ətfù
ǧubśư "place, area" > tùwsɨ̀ > ətsì
cưgrưni "knot" > kɨ̀ghɨ̀nì > kìgənì
huśơ "vine" > xùsə̀ > əxsè
mačư "throw, toss" > màtɨ̀ > əntì
ćưcơ "ramp, inclined plane" > tɨ̀kə̀ > ətkè
ưbacư "screw" > ɨ̀wàkɨ̀ > ìwəkì
reśu "twist; weave" > nɛ̀sù > ənsù
mesơ "bed, mattress" > mě > we̋
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Why are they called Mute? EDIT: Oops, I see you mentioned this. But what's the connotation, that they don't speak the proper language?

Also, any new characters?
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clawgrip wrote:Why are they called Mute? EDIT: Oops, I see you mentioned this. But what's the connotation, that they don't speak the proper language?
Yes, that's basically it. The other Caber couldn't even recognize their language as Caber. The Mute Caber also were the westernmost of the Caber and came into contact with speakers of the Ban De languages. There was some mingling of the peoples and the other Caber didn't take too kindly to that. The language gap was just another perceived offense to the rest of the Caber. The Mutes got the last laugh though—the story goes that in the technological exchange with the Ban De speakers they ended up with the knowledge of advanced metalworking; in return the Ban De groups got the logogram system, which is now used to write in the easternmost Ban De languages.
clawgrip wrote:Also, any new characters?
Only a few so far—I haven't worked on the logograms much in the past couple of months, unfortunately.

Mute Caber to Mute Caber C

d g → l j
k → tʃ / _E
ɨ u ɔ a → u ɔ a ɛ
V(h)V → V[+ one tone higher]
Vh → V[+ one tone higher]
h → Ø
t n → k ŋ / V_{C,#}
f → Ø
s → l / V_V
x → k
w → Ø / {#,C}_V

cabe "person" > ká > ke²
caber "people (collective)" > kán > keŋ²
rubes "ball, sphere, circle" > núh > no³
fe "of" > mɛ̀ > me¹
bưf "and" > wɨ̀f > u¹
bưcuś "but, except" > wɨ̀kɨ̀s > u¹kus¹
ec "NEGATIVE" > ɛ̀k > ek¹
śemuc "or" > ɲɛ̀mùk > ñe¹mok¹
mưgưi "zero" > mɨ̀gɨ́ > mu¹ju²
bưćơ "one" > wɨ̀tə̀ > u¹tə¹
bơći "two" > wə̀tì > ə¹ti¹
ǵeśac "three" > dɛ̀sàk > le¹lek¹
račboć "four" > nàtwɔ̀t > nek¹wak¹
ơ "five" > ə̀ > ə¹
śeư "six" > ɲɛ́ > ñe²
seśo "hand" > nɛ̀sɔ̀ > ne¹la¹
bosa "water" > wɔ̌ > wa⁴
ćơ "fire" > tə̀ > tə¹
čư "tree" > tɨ̀ > tu¹
ru "give" > nù > no¹
ruơa "pole" > núà > no³
ča "wind" > tà > te¹
eseć "hear" > ɛ̌t > ek⁴
bưbư "see" > wɨ̀wɨ̀ > u¹
ota "take" > ɔ̀tà > a¹te¹
dơ "kick" > də̀ > də¹
čengac "smell" > tɛ̂gàk > te⁶jek¹
ơgoc "leg" > ə̀gɔ̀k > ə¹jak¹
nici "spine" > nìkì > ni¹tʃi¹
nuơc "road" > núk > nok²
rưsaco "break, split" > nɨ̌kɔ̀ > nu⁴ka¹
ćưiu "fall" > tɨ́ù > ti³
ćưa "QUESTION" > tɨ́ > ti²
hưr "speak, say" > ŋɨ̀n > ŋuŋ¹
besrơ "mountain" > wɛ̂hə̀ > we⁷
ba "DEFINITE" > wà > we¹
cać "think" > kàt > kek¹
nơ "boat" > nə̀ > nə¹
caơ "bean" > ká > ke²
śuśo "drop" > ɲùsɔ̀ > ño¹la¹
ǧatfum "walk" > tàtfùm > ta¹kom¹
ǧubśư "place, area" > tùwsɨ̀ > tow¹su¹
cưgrưni "knot" > kɨ̀ghɨ̀nì > ku¹ju¹ni¹
huśơ "vine" > xùsə̀ > ko¹lə¹
mačư "throw, toss" > màtɨ̀ > me¹tu¹
ćưcơ "ramp, inclined plane" > tɨ̀kə̀ > tu¹kə¹
ưbacư "screw" > ɨ̀wàkɨ̀ > u¹we¹ku¹
reśu "twist; weave" > nɛ̀sù > ne¹lo¹
mesơ "bed, mattress" > mě > me⁴
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Re: Caber Logograms

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A fan-descendant of Mute Caber(present to Linguifex)
Spoiler:
[ptk]/ʔ/_#
[f]/h/_#
/ʰ/S_
N/̃/_#
N/S/_
Z/N/_
N/̃/_#
N/̃/_/#_
Sʰ/F/_
[pbf]//_/#_
˩H/˧˩/_
˥H/˧˥/_
˩˥H/˩˧/_
˥˩H/˥˧/_
ɨ˩/u˩/_
ɨ˥/i˥/_
ɨ˧˥/i˧˥/_
ɨ˧˩/u˧˩/_
T̃/\\/_
T̃/\\/_
TV/\\/V_
TV/\\/̃_
T//_TT
˩˩/˩/_

u/w/_V
i/j/_V
ũ/m/_V
ĩ/ɲ/_V
/ʔ/V(T)(T)_V
/˩/V_/_[T̃]
Spoiler:
V=aeiouɔɛ
L=āēīōū
C=ptkqbdgmnlrhs
F=ɸθçx
B=ou
S=ptkc
Z=bdgɟ
N=mnŋɲ
T=˩˥˩˧˩
H=hʔ
[nɔ˩˥ nɔ˩ cɛ˩ kã˩ çã˥ wɛ˧˩ ti˥ θɔ̃˩˥
çã˥ ŋa˧˩ ɛ˧˩ mɔ˩ tɔ˧˩ cɛ˩ u˧˩ cɛ˩ nɔ˩ nɔ˩˥ θa˩ʔa˩
tĩ˩ tĩ˩ tĩ˩ tĩ˩ tĩ˩ tĩ˩ tĩ˩]

No¹³ no¹ ce¹ ka̱¹ ça̱³ we²¹ ti³ ŧo̱¹³.
Ça̱³ ŋa²¹ e²¹ mo¹ to²¹ ce¹ u²¹ ce¹ no¹ no¹³ ŧa¹ʔa¹.
Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹. Ti̱¹.


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[:D] I love it when I get fanfiction, even more so when I get to make it canon. Thank you, opipik (and clawgrip too)!
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Re: Caber Logograms

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Spoiler:
ka˥
ka˥n
nu˥h
mɛ˩
wɨ˩f
wɨ˩kɨ˩s
ɛ˩k
ɲɛ˩mu˩k
mɨ˩gɨ˥
wɨ˩tə˩
wə˩ti˩
dɛ˩sa˩k
na˩twɔ˩t
ə˩
ɲɛ˥
nɛ˩sɔ˩
wɔ˩˥
tə˩
tɨ˩
nu˩
nu˥a˩
ta˩
ɛ˩˥t
wɨ˩wɨ˩
ɔ˩ta˩
də˩
tɛ˥˩ga˩k
ə˩gɔ˩k
ni˩ki˩
nu˥k
nɨ˩˥kɔ˩
tɨ˥u˩
tɨ˥
ŋɨ˩n
wɛ˥˩hə˩
wa˩
ka˩t
nə˩
ka˥
ɲu˩sɔ˩
ta˩tfu˩m
tu˩wsɨ˩
kɨ˩ghɨ˩ni˩
xu˩sə˩
ma˩tɨ˩
tɨ˩kə˩
ɨ˩wa˩kɨ˩
nɛ˩su˩
me˩˥

thus yields:

ça˥
çã˥
tu˧˥
pɛ˩
wu˧˩
wu˩çu˩s
ɛ˧˩
cɛ˩ʔu˧˩
pũʔi˩˥
wu˩θə˩
wə˩θi˩
nɛ˩sa˧˩
ta˩θwɔ˧˩
ə˩
cɛ˥
tɛ˩sɔ˩
wɔ˩˥
θə˩
θu˩
tu˩
twa˥˩
θa˩
ɛ˧˥
wu˩wu˩
ɔ˩θa˩
nə˩
θɛ̃˥˩ʔa˧˩
ə̃ʔɔ˧˩
ti˩çi˩
tu˧˥
tu˩˥çɔ˩
θju˥˩
θi˥
kũ˩
wɛ˧˩ʔə˩
wa˩
ça˧˩
tə˩
ça˥
cu˩sɔ˩
θa˩θũ˩
θu˩wsu˩
çũ˩hu˩ti˩
xu˩sə˩
pa˩θu˩
θu˩çə˩
u˩wa˩çu˩
tɛ˩su˩
pe˩˥
Here's the orthography in two versions:

/p t c k ʔ/ <p t c k ʔ/∅>
/m n ɲ ŋ/ <m n ñ/ɲ ŋ>
/ɸ θ s ç x h/ <f/ᵽ ŧ s ȼ/ç x/ꝁ h>
/w j/ <w y>

/i e ɛ a ɔ o u ə/ <i ɇ e a o ø u ə>
/ĩ ẽ ɛ̃ ã ɔ̃ õ ũ ə̃/ <i̱ ɇ̱ e̱ a̱ o̱ ø̱ u̱ ə̱>

/a a˩ a˥ a˩˥ a˥˩ a˧˥ a˧˩ a˥˧ a˩˧/ <a² a¹ a³ a¹³ a³¹ a²³ a²¹ a³² a¹²>

/ça˥, çã˥, tu˧˥, pɛ˩, wu˧˩, wu˩çu˩s, ɛ˧˩, cɛ˩ʔu˧˩, pũʔi˩˥, wu˩θə˩, wə˩θi˩, nɛ˩sa˧˩, ta˩θwɔ˧˩, ə˩, cɛ˥, tɛ˩sɔ˩, wɔ˩˥, θə˩, θu˩, tu˩, twa˥˩, θa˩, ɛ˧˥, wu˩wu˩, ɔ˩θa˩, nə˩, θɛ̃˥˩ʔa˧˩, ə̃ʔɔ˧˩, ti˩çi˩, tu˧˥, tu˩˥çɔ˩, θju˥˩, θi˥, kũ˩, wɛ˧˩ʔə˩, wa˩, ça˧˩, tə˩, ça˥, cu˩sɔ˩, θa˩θũ˩, θu˩wsu˩, çũ˩hu˩ti˩, xu˩sə˩, pa˩θu˩, θu˩çə˩, u˩wa˩çu˩, tɛ˩su˩, pe˩˥/

<ȼa³, ȼa̱³, tu³, pe¹, wu¹, wu¹ȼus¹, e¹, ce¹ʔu¹, pu̱ʔi¹³, wu¹ŧə¹, wə¹ŧi¹, ne¹sa¹, ta¹ŧwo¹, ə¹, ce³, te¹so¹, wo¹³, ŧə¹, ŧu¹, tu¹, twa³¹, ŧa¹, e³, wu¹wu¹, o¹ŧa¹, nə¹, ŧe̱³¹ʔa¹, ə̱ʔo¹, ti¹ȼi¹, tu³, tu¹³ȼo¹, ŧyu³¹, ŧi³, ku̱¹, we¹ʔə¹, wa¹, ȼa¹, tə¹, ȼa³, cu¹so¹, ŧa¹ŧu̱¹, ŧu¹wsu¹, ȼu̱¹hu¹ti¹, xu¹sə¹, pa¹ŧu¹, ŧu¹ȼə¹, u¹wa¹ȼu¹, te¹su¹, pé¹³>
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Top row: behsu "happy", nam "eat", ǧiś "noise, sound", tac "chisel, carve"
Second row: śuśur "grass", an "drive (animals, e.g. cattle)", ap "stab", basar "carve, whittle"
Third row: ćo "flower", bes "pick, choose", oc "choke (transitive)", ơ "sit (somewhere)"
Bottom row: caơ "sky", tastanơ "pick (fruit)", hac "choke (intransitive)", sar "sad"

Easter egg—nam "eat" (should be obvious)
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