Þrinn: The Mid-Germanic Language

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Are you still working on this or is it at the side for the moment?
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Nachtuil wrote:Are you still working on this or is it at the side for the moment?
Still working on this. I just need ideas for words and texts to cover given that grammar is all but finished right now [:D]
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qwed117 wrote:The pantone colors of the year.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone ... f_the_Year
Or maybe the RALS colors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors
I don't know. That seems to complicated for right now
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Compounds with Irregular Animal Names
A small grammar note I did want to bring up involves masculine, feminine, and diminutive names for irregular animal names.

Compound nouns using those irregular animal names may or may not be regularized depending on the situation:

1. If the compound noun refers to a specified form of the original, the forms remain irregular (e.g. Vanbeara-Vanberna-Vanberjung for Black Bear)

2. If the compound noun turns an originally gender specific name into the form used for both genders, the forms are always regularized (e.g. Márku-Márkül for Manatee instead of Mársjor-Márku-Márkalv)

3. If the compound uses the gender neutral term for the animal species and doesn't refer to a specified form of the original, it may or may not be regularized depending on the animal (e.g. Émtabeara-Émtaberna-Émtaberjung for Anteater, but Úrmbbeara-Úrmbbearåg for Polecat)

4. If the compound ends with Ljo, it is never regularized (e.g. Márljo-Márljöne-Márljoneg for Sea Lion)
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What if you translate a few Germanic folk tales or fairy tales?
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All4Ɇn wrote:Compounds with Irregular Animal Names
A small grammar note I did want to bring up involves masculine, feminine, and diminutive names for irregular animal names.

Compound nouns using those irregular animal names may or may not be regularized depending on the situation:

1. If the compound noun refers to a specified form of the original, the forms remain irregular (e.g. Vanbeara-Vanberna-Vanberjung for Black Bear)

2. If the compound noun turns an originally gender specific name into the form used for both genders, the forms are always regularized (e.g. Márku-Márkül for Manatee instead of Mársjor-Márku-Márkalv)

3. If the compound uses the gender neutral term for the animal species and doesn't refer to a specified form of the original, it may or may not be regularized depending on the animal (e.g. Émtabeara-Émtaberna-Émtaberjung for Anteater, but Úrmbbeara-Úrmbbearåg for Polecat)

4. If the compound ends with Ljo, it is never regularized (e.g. Márljo-Márljöne-Márljoneg for Sea Lion)
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Nachtuil wrote:What if you translate a few Germanic folk tales or fairy tales?
A somewhat longish suggestion for a "fairytale"-

Þór ok Útgarða-Loki
http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... utgard.htm


[;)]
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Pfft. Singapore obviously borrowed that from the Thrinns [>:D]
Nachtuil wrote:What if you translate a few Germanic folk tales or fairy tales?
Lambuzhao wrote:A somewhat longish suggestion for a "fairytale"-

Þór ok Útgarða-Loki
http://www.hurstwic.org/history/article ... utgard.htm

[;)]
That's a good idea. I just need some pretty short stories for now since translating does take a lot of time
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Also how would you guys feel about me covering a little bit of Thrinn history in this thread?
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All4Ɇn wrote:Also how would you guys feel about me covering a little bit of Thrinn history in this thread?
sure, just go for it (:
I prefer to not be referred to with masculine pronouns and nouns such as “he/him/his”.
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k1234567890y wrote:
All4Ɇn wrote:Also how would you guys feel about me covering a little bit of Thrinn history in this thread?
sure, just go for it (:
If people are interested in it I'll cover some of the more notable Thrinn presidents and their elections [:)]
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Thrinn Political Parties
Before I got into presidents I figured I'd cover the Thrinn political parties

Grön (Green)- The most recent and one of the smallest political parties in Thrinn. Despite this, they ended up winning the presidency for the first time earlier this year

Ultralurt (Far-Left)- Developed in the years after WW1 where it quickly spread throughout the country. Controlled the government from 1928-1952 except for the 5 year period of Nazi control. Still Thrinn's largest political party

Lurt (Left)- With 8 presidents, the Left's had more presidents than any other party and was extremely important during Trinn's earliest years as a country. In recent years however they have been losing steam to the far-left

Zenter (Center)- Along with the Left, the Center was one of Thrinn's earliest parties. It was typically viewed as an alternative to the Left without the monarchal tendencies once carried by the Right. In more recent years it's become more of a party used to unite Center-Right and Center-Left view points.

Reħt (Right)- Originally viewed as the monarchal party due to its tendency to give the presidents unchecked power, it was hugely important between 1904-1928 and 1968-1996. It still remains the second largest political party in Thrinn although it is quickly losing ground due to the Far-Right

Pólske Názjonalistiske Parti (PNP) (Polish Nationalist Party)- Only Thrinn party to have died out. Existed from 1872-1900, primarily in Pomerania and Posen where they had huge numbers of supporters, before being absorbed into the Right. Essentially a right-wing party for the Polish living in Thrinn but merged into the Right after failing to gain enough attention.

Ultrareħt (Far Right)- Despite existing for a fairly long time, it's never controlled the presidency. It's been picking up more and more attention with every election though and came in 2nd place in the 2012 Presidential race

Þjöðig (National)- Very small extreme-right party known for their offensive views. Currently only has 1 member between both houses of congress.

Kommunistisk (Communist)- Another small party. Currently has 2 members between both houses of congress.
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Fractions and Ordinals in Names
Just remembered another important part of grammar I haven't covered that I wanted to do before forgetting

Fractions
Below are the names for the fractions for 2-10 when used as nouns. When used as an adjective, the nominal form is used as the adjectival stem. All other numerals form their fraction by adding -del to the end of their cardinal form. All nominal forms are neuter except for Halv which is masculine.

2- Halv
3- Þreddel
4- Kvart
5- Fimdel
6- Sextel
7- Sévdel
8- Aħtel
9- Nyndel
10- Téndel

Ordinals in Names
Much like in English ordinal numbers occur in names, especially those of royalty. As in English, these ordinals are written in Roman numerals and are pronounced as the appropriate definite article followed by the appropriate weak ordinal form of the number. The numbers Þri and Fimm have their own unique ordinal forms used exclusively when used as the ordinals in a name. They are Tearz for Þri and Kvint for Fimm. Þridjerd and Fimt are never used as the ordinals in names. Unlike ordinals written in Arabic numerals, those written in Roman numerals do not take endings and remain unchanged even when the pronunciation changes.
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Is there no election threshold in Thrinn? Your big parties could easily get rid of annoying nationalists and communists.
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Iyionaku wrote:Is there no election threshold in Thrinn? Your big parties could easily get rid of annoying nationalists and communists.
Thrinn uses an STV system for House elections and so it avoids the need for a threshold. Because the Senate isn't elected by the public, but instead is chosen by political insiders, radical view points tend to be easily repressed
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God bless their enlightened souls for their parliamentary electoral system at least.
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Nachtuil wrote:God bless their enlightened souls for their parliamentary electoral system at least.
Thanks!

It's been a difficult road getting there for Thrinn. Its presidency started out essentially as a de facto constitutional monarchy
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All4Ɇn wrote:
Nachtuil wrote: Thanks!

It's been a difficult road getting there for Thrinn. Its presidency started out essentially as a de facto constitutional monarchy
It has already exceeded Canada and the US :P
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Here are some of the most famous Thrinn presidents. With the maps, light blue represents Left, dark blue represents Far Left, brown represents Center, red represents Right, pink represents Far Right, green represents Green, and purple represents the PNP

1. Viljálm Halgmann (1872-1876 Left)
The first President of Thrinn. He was an early supporter for an independent free Thrinn state and helped organize Thrinn's departure from the German Empire.
1872 Election Results:
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4. Viktor Fox (1884-1886 Center)
Became president as a result of the highly controversial 1884 election. In Thrinn elections if no candidate receives at least 50% of the vote then the top 2 candidates compete in a runoff election. Despite coming in 2nd in the first election (and less than 1% higher than 3rd) he ultimately won the runoff election by a fairly large margin. Fox lead over an extremely authoritarian government and was assassinated 2 years into his presidency as a result. He's the only Thrinn president to be assassinated.
1884 Election Results:
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10. Konstantin Bermann (1912-1924 Center)
Bermann was president throughout World War 1 and was crucial in Thrinn's then controversial decision to join the allies. His 3rd term was known for the seemingly rapid expansion in quality of life as part of the roaring 20's. Although he wasn't president for most of the 20's, because of his influence on the decade, it's often referred to as the "Bermanjeare" (Bearmann Years) in Thrinn.
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1916 Election Results:
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1920 Election Results:
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11. Geörge Hamurd (1924-1925 Right)
Although his presidency was shorter than any other, Hamurd had an enormous influence in Thrinn politics for most of his life. He served as governor of Pomerania, a congressman for both houses, speaker of the house, foreign minister, and was a nominee for vice president long before running for president. He was 80 years old by the time he ran for president. More than anything his run was seen as a way to boost support for down ballot members of the Right party even if he didn't win the election. For his vice president, Hamurd chose Luzi Maxund, a far younger and less experienced candidate who was picked to lead the country in the event of Hamurd's passing. Hamurd won and became Thrinn's second Right president, however, after being president for a year he died of natural causes and was followed by Maxund. Unlike Hamurd, Maxund is considered to be one of Thrinn's worst presidents and his presidency actually pushed Thrinn farther left than it would have done without him.
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13. Adam Havne (1928-1940; 1945-1948 Far Left)
Thrinn's first Far Left president and the first president to flirt with Socialist policies which has since become one of the country's defining features. At 15 years, Havne has served longer than any other president. He served throughout the Great Depression and his brand of politics is generally considered to be one of the main factors that got Thrinn out of it. His presidency saw the lessening of ties with Russia and Germany in favor of Scandinavia and the relatively new nation of Finland. From 1940 to 1945, Thrinn was under Nazi rule. Havne and many others fled the country during this time. In 2 rigged elections (1940 and 1944) in which he faced no competition, Heinrich Steuben, a German Nazi, was made president of Thrinn. Following the war's end, Steuben was put on trial and executed. Havne returned to power after a quick election in which he faced no opposition and remained president until 1948 in which another election took place
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1932 Election Results:
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17. Pål Sjäfer (1956-1964 Center)
Before becoming a politician Sjäfer was a relatively well known economist and ended up predicting many of the problems that would plague post war politics. His landslide win occurred in a period of time that was fairly leftwing. Fittingly Sjäfer is most remembered for his economic policies which helped an economically damaged Thrinn recover yet he also had a huge role in Thrinn's separation from Russia following the start of the Cold War.
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23. Juli Mülner (1988-1996 Right)
Mülner's presidency saw the end of the Cold War and the renewal of relationships with many former Communist countries especially Poland and former East Germany. Mülner led over one of the most conservative eras in Thrinn history. Largely due to the diminished threat of Communism, causing large amounts of international commerce and immigration, nationalism grew rapidly and the early 90s saw the (so far) height of the National party: the most bigoted Thrinn party and one which Mülner never outright condemned.
1988 Election Results:
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24. Koraka Póhaku (1996-2004 Left)
The first non-white and first Hawaiian president. Póhaku saw the increased development of globalization and Thrinn's membership into the E.U. Although his second term was marked by far more unrest than his first, it was still a relatively peaceful time.
1996 Election Results:
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2000 Election Results:
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25. Sjarlotte Mülner (2004-2012 Center)
The first female president. Mülner led over a very difficult time in Thrinn history due to problems such as the increased threat of terrorism and the 2008 financial crisis. Although her approval ratings during her first term were relatively mixed, her handling of financial issues during her second term gave her significant praise and she is now probably the most beloved living former Thrinn president.
2004 Election Results:
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2008 Election Results:
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27. Cärel Huverd (2016- Green)
The first Green, second female, and current president of Thrinn. The 2016 election in Thrinn saw a huge split among the parties, with each of the 6 main parties receiving almost equal percentage of the votes in most places. Coming in second place in the first election, Huverd won against the relatively unpopular incumbent president in the runoff race by tapping into both far left and nationalistic views, winning her support from people all across the political spectrum.
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