Þrinn: The Mid-Germanic Language

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I found this list of common diseases, but there are a lot of scientific diseases as well. I think you can pick and choose what kind of diseases you want to use from this list since all of them are fairly well known.
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Thanks for the list ixals :). Here's what I've got so far

Arthrit- Arthritis
Asthma- Asthma
Bekälding- (Common) Cold or A Short Bout Of Depression
Bronchit- Bronchitis
Denge- Dengue
Döðvambejanbranding- Appendicitis
Dvining- Consumption
Dysenteri- Dysentery
Falsüttiðe- Epilepsy
Gonorhö- Gonorrhea
Grip- Influenza/Flu
Halágvítsdanz- Chorea
Heartasüttiðe- Heart Disease/Cardiovascular Disease
Herpes- Herpes
Holera- Cholera
Kräft- Cancer
Kuveniguð- Mad Cow Disease
Kußpokk- Cowpox
Lungajanbranding- Pneumonia (Usually just called Lungjann)
Lymesüttiðe- Lyme Disease
Malárja- Malaria
Midd- Leprosy
Örajanbranding- Ear Infection/Otitis
Öriguð- Jaundice
Pest- (Bubonic) Plague
Röðkünðe- Shingles
Rüsktiger- Anthrax (Literally Russian Tiger)
Spokk- Smallpox
Sprékle- Measles
Sruspokk- Chicken Pox
Srüghalderimmúndefektsyndrom (SIDS)- Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS)
Svýneg- Mumps
Tuberkulose- Tuberculosis
Ylduð- Mental Illness
Zöljaki- Coeliac Disease
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All4Ɇn wrote:Thanks for the list ixals :). Here's what I've got so far
This looks great! [:D]

I'm curious about the etymology of these terms:
Halágvítsdanz- Chorea
Midd- Leprosy
Rüsktiger- Anthrax (Literally Russian Tiger)
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Halágvítsdanz is literally Saint Vitus Dance which used to be the English name for the disease as well and dates back to the middle ages. As a word in Thrinn, Halágvítsdanz is still used in everyday language while Chorea is reserved for high level medical discussion and isn't really a Thrinn word even then.

Midd is an old verbal noun from the verb miðen which means to avoid which comes from the fact that people with leprosy were often outcasted or avoided. This etymology of the word is completely lost on Thrinn speakers though.

Rüsktiger's main origin comes from the fact that anthrax outbreaks (and thus the disease) were typically associated with Russia and Siberia in particular. As the tiger was an animal associated with Siberia, as well as one whose fur colour was similar to the red scars on anthrax victims' skin, the name rüsktiger began being used first as a euphemism and soon the name for the disease.


Thanks for the compliments also! [:D] I personally really like some of the names
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Viþ Expressions
Thrinn has a fair number of prepositional expressions but not nearly as many or with as many different prepositions as German or English though. Probably the most common preposition in these cases is Viþ (Towards). Here's a few common expressions with it

Allergsk viþ.. vesen- To be allergic to
Aþ veg viþ- On the way to/On the way towards
Bi vege viþ... fraßen- To be in the process of
Gift viþ- Instead of
Miþat vaspuring viþ- On the heels of/In the pursuit of
Sig viþ... behäjen- To be worried about
Sig viþ... bergen- To protect oneself against
Stand viþ- Despite
Viþ... fraßen- Work on
Viþ... maðlen- Believe in
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Sukiyaki (Ue O Muite Arukō)
I thought it seemed like a good time to translate a song into Thrinn and decided to go with Sukiyaki since it's not only one of my favorite songs but I've also translated it into several languages already.

Fur ig seħe upp, near gange ig
So fallen þa tare nen
Av ig ake þaðer glaðer brunnadager
Ög íkvild im ig ħald sund

Fur ig seħe upp, near gange ig
Ig tälje þer sjarnen miþ kritige ögen
Av ig ake þaðer glaðer sumardager
Ög íkvild im ig ħald sund

Glåduð gehist hinder þa skiwer
Glåduð gehist im himne

Fur ig seħe upp, near gange ig
So fallen þa tare nen
Inpast verðe min hearta aw þer srewer füller
Äg íkvild im ig ħald sund

Av ig ake þaðer glaðer harvestdager
Ög íkvild im ig ħald sund

Dåghduð behámle sig im skadde þara sjarna
Dåghduð behámle sig im skadde þas mener

Fur ig seħe upp, near gange ig
So fallen þa tare nen
Inpast verðe min hearta aw þer srewer füller
Äg íkvild im ig ħald sund

English Translation:
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I look up when I walk
So the tears won't fall
Remembering those happy spring days
But tonight I'm all alone

I look up when I walk
Counting the stars with tearful eyes
Remembering those happy summer days
But tonight I'm all alone

Happiness lies beyond the clouds
Happiness lies above the sky

I look up when I walk
So the tears won't fall
Though my heart is filled with sorrow
For tonight I'm all alone

Remembering those happy autumn days
But tonight I'm all alone

Sadness hides in the shadow of the stars
Sadness lurks in the shadow of the moon

I look up when I walk
So the tears won't fall
Though my heart is filled with sorrow
For tonight I'm all alone
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I assume this is the Taste of Honey adaptation? I'm sad to say I've only listened to Boogie Oogie Oogie, and quite by accident.

(Also, it might be good to label it as "Ue o Muite Arukō (Sukiyaki)", or something of the sort)
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qwed117 wrote:I assume this is the Taste of Honey adaptation? I'm sad to say I've only listened to Boogie Oogie Oogie, and quite by accident.
It's a translation of Kyu Sakamoto's Japanese version. The English lyrics are also a translation of it. Quite a fan of the Taste of Honey version but the original's where it's at [B)]
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If any of you guys have any ideas for songs you'd like to see translated into Thrinn I'd love to take some suggestions [:D]
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All4Ɇn wrote:If any of you guys have any ideas for songs you'd like to see translated into Thrinn I'd love to take some suggestions [:D]
*struggles not to let the weeb exit and destroy the nearby surroundings...*

To weeb or not to weeb, that is the question...
Spoiler:
Heat-Haze Days/Daze*

On August 15th, 12:30 in the afternoon,
The weather was incredibly nice
And amidst the sickening rays of the dazzling sun
I spoke with you, for I had nothing else to do

"Well, y’know, I kind of hate summer",
You boldly murmured while petting a cat
Ah, you pursued that cat as it ran away from you
And what jumped out
Was the traffic light that changed to a glaring red

Suddenly, a truck came out of nowhere and struck you as you screamed
Your scent, now mingled with sprayed blood, choked me
In the haze of lies, the haze of heat laughed, "This is all real!"
With that, like a cricket’s sound being disturbed, the light blue of summer darkened away

I woke up upon my bed to the sound of a ticking clock
What time is it now?

On August 14th, sometime past 12 in the morning
I recalled the sound of an awfully annoying cricket
But, y’know, it’s a little strange.
Yesterday, in a dream, I saw us walking in this same exact park
"Why don’t we go home now?"
The second you stepped off the pathway, everyone surrounding us
Turned their heads up to the sky and opened their mouths

From the sky, down dropped an iron pole
That pierced your body straight through
The sound of wind-chimes and your ripping screams filled the spaces between the park trees
In this unnatural scene,
The shimmering heat laughed, "This is the real thing!"
As my vision blurred away, I glanced at your profile, and thought I saw you smiling

Countless times have had me black out
In the laughing heat like this
This cycle has repeated for decades
I realized that a long time ago

In this kind of clichéd story,
There must only be one ending.
Beyond this repeating summer day, it has to exist.

Suddenly, I pushed you aside and jumped into the street;
At that moment, the truck slammed into me
Your eyes and my twisted body were like hazy reflections of the blood that sprayed everywhere
If that praiseful heat haze laughed, “Serves you right!” again
Then this would be what you’d call a normal summer day.
But all of that ended today.

On August 14th, a girl awoke upon her bed
And she said,
"I failed this time, too..." as she cradled a single cat.

*pun based off of the equal pronunciation of the two
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Formar (Shapes)
Hopefully I'm not posting too much for anybody but I've come up with a few cool vocal topic ideas [:)]


2D
Zirkel- Circle
Halvzirkel- Semicircle
Oval- Oval
Þriagge- Triangle
Fjoragge- Quadrilateral/Quadrangle
Reħtħürna- Rectangle
Kvadrat- Square
Rhomb- Rhombus
Drakaforme- Kite
Fimmagge- Pentagon
Sexagge- Hexagon
Sévnagge- Heptagon
Aħtagge- Octagon
Nynagge- Nonagon
Tjoagge- Decagon
Hearta- Heart
Kruz- Cross
Sjarna- Star

3D
Fairly easy to remember these as many have other meanings
Kugel- Sphere (or a bullet)
Halvkugel- Hemisphere
Valze- Cylinder (or a road roller)
Þull- Cone (or a pin (grenade etc.)/bowling pin/skittle/juggling club/peg-leg)
Pyramide- Pyramid (also refers to the building)
Prisma- Prism
Ürghel- Cube (or a die)
Böxel- Cuboid (or a small box)
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qwed117 wrote: *struggles not to let the weeb exit and destroy the nearby surroundings...*

To weeb or not to weeb, that is the question...
Spoiler:
Heat-Haze Days/Daze*

On August 15th, 12:30 in the afternoon,
The weather was incredibly nice
And amidst the sickening rays of the dazzling sun
I spoke with you, for I had nothing else to do

"Well, y’know, I kind of hate summer",
You boldly murmured while petting a cat
Ah, you pursued that cat as it ran away from you
And what jumped out
Was the traffic light that changed to a glaring red

Suddenly, a truck came out of nowhere and struck you as you screamed
Your scent, now mingled with sprayed blood, choked me
In the haze of lies, the haze of heat laughed, "This is all real!"
With that, like a cricket’s sound being disturbed, the light blue of summer darkened away

I woke up upon my bed to the sound of a ticking clock
What time is it now?

On August 14th, sometime past 12 in the morning
I recalled the sound of an awfully annoying cricket
But, y’know, it’s a little strange.
Yesterday, in a dream, I saw us walking in this same exact park
"Why don’t we go home now?"
The second you stepped off the pathway, everyone surrounding us
Turned their heads up to the sky and opened their mouths

From the sky, down dropped an iron pole
That pierced your body straight through
The sound of wind-chimes and your ripping screams filled the spaces between the park trees
In this unnatural scene,
The shimmering heat laughed, "This is the real thing!"
As my vision blurred away, I glanced at your profile, and thought I saw you smiling

Countless times have had me black out
In the laughing heat like this
This cycle has repeated for decades
I realized that a long time ago

In this kind of clichéd story,
There must only be one ending.
Beyond this repeating summer day, it has to exist.

Suddenly, I pushed you aside and jumped into the street;
At that moment, the truck slammed into me
Your eyes and my twisted body were like hazy reflections of the blood that sprayed everywhere
If that praiseful heat haze laughed, “Serves you right!” again
Then this would be what you’d call a normal summer day.
But all of that ended today.

On August 14th, a girl awoke upon her bed
And she said,
"I failed this time, too..." as she cradled a single cat.

*pun based off of the equal pronunciation of the two
Just saw this. I'll get it on it soon [:D]
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All4Ɇn wrote:If any of you guys have any ideas for songs you'd like to see translated into Thrinn I'd love to take some suggestions [:D]
Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0

I could find an HQ version, but the crappy, MTV-to-Beta-to-VHS quality just adds to the nostalgia...
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Lambuzhao wrote:Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0

I could find an HQ version, but the crappy, MTV-to-Beta-to-VHS quality just adds to the nostalgia...
How did I know you'd recommend something like this [xP]. Definitely will work on this one too
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Slahen- To Hit/Punch/Strike/Beat Pound
I've changed the conjugation of Slahen a bit. It's now an irregular verb instead of a strong one
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Present Tense
First Person Singular: Slahe
Second Person Singular: Slät
Third Person Singular: Slä

First Person Plural: Slåhem
Second Person Plural: Slaheð
Third Person Plural: Slahen

Past Tense
First Person Singular: Slo
Second Person Singular: Slot
Third Person Singular: Slo

First Person Plural: Slogem
Second Person Plural: Slogeð
Third Person Plural: Slogen

Subjunctive Mood
First Person Singular: Slahe
Second Person Singular: Slaher
Third Person Singular: Slahe

First Person Plural: Slåhem
Second Person Plural: Slaheð
Third Person Plural: Slahen

Past Subjunctive Mood
First Person Singular: Slöge
Second Person Singular: Slöger
Third Person Singular: Slöge

First Person Plural: Slögem
Second Person Plural: Slögeð
Third Person Plural: Slögen

Imperative Mood
First Person Singular: Not used
Second Person Singular: Sla
Third Person Singular: Not used

First Person Plural: Slåhem
Second Person Plural: Slaheð
Third Person Plural: Slahen

Past Participle
Singular: Slager
Plural: Slagern

Present Participle
Slahend
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Heat-Haze Days/Daze (Häteslöjerdager)
I finally got around to your request qwed and man was that difficult to translate! Definitely a great exercise in testing out Thrinn syntax and got to create quite a few new words too

An 15er Åguste, än 12t30 an äghermiddage
Vas þat veðer endmåðluft gale
Äg awem þara besjukendna streala þer blundendner sóvler
Prattede ig miþ þig, hvir hað ig nen ánsat gären

„Nå þ’vast, þat hatje ig býdg sumar“
Mildet þu möðig bi katte streaken
Agg, va þu spúrdet þaðen katte, bi stet hir aw þir und
Äg se sprang av, vas se åmpella, se geged gälla röðe

Awem gånd kam slaðer äg slo þig, bi sröptet þu und
Ter þin svakk, nu mängerd miþ sprevra bloð, held mig
Im döne ljoginga, sa dönd þer häter slahhede: „þat ist ħald triw!“
Þarägher, samb vird ljöðkenverk sriter, svark þat bleve ljúħt sumars

Ig erslépte mig an minem rume furem sluðe tekkender klokner
Hven timen hav man nu?

Av an 14er Åguste, tidt ö ägher 12 an murgene,
Og ig þat sluð hönd ängrends ljöðkens
Ög þ’vast, þat ist þat litild kómske
Gester in dröme sa ig uns in þaðem exakten þeselven park uns raßen
„Hvo gåhem vir nu in hus nen?“
Se sekunde, þat geng þu þen veg av, lannen alle awem uns sig
Þa höfde upp viþat himn äg ughneden þer kinner

Av aw þaðem himne fell ißrenstange,
Se paste emmend þina korpe jan
Sa sluð skelna äg þínra ünðenra undsröpinga fülde þer burer iþer þara parkskoga
In þaðer endnatürligen szene
Slahhede se skimrende häte: „þat ist þat zake mal!“
Bi smirv mine siħt jan, blinkte ig þinen profil äg þängde, þat seħe ig þig smilen

Zifrennerlössa tiðer hav ig
Iner slahhenden häte samb þat jansvurker
Þat zykel hav sið jértenem srügkuðer
An ig þängde þat sið langer tiðer

In þaðer arde klißjeigs stägs
A þar annig an änd vesen
Hinder þaðen srügkoðenden sumardag a þat begären

Gånd þrukte ig þig fursiða äg sprang anen gaten;
Jan in þaðem momente slo þat ljoðer mig
Þine ögen äg min umbbjugerd korp veren samb dönige víðringe bloðs, þat sprefte üverald
Ja slahhe þaðe lüviga häte: „veld für þig!“ srügg,
Ürðe þat, se hät normald sumardag, vesen
Ög awem all þat kol idag.

An 14er Åguste, mävel erslépte sig an minem rume
Äg he kað:
„Ig märde þaðe tidt ögsa...“ bi vágde he anniga katte

English lyrics:
Spoiler:
On August 15th, 12:30 in the afternoon,
The weather was incredibly nice
And amidst the sickening rays of the dazzling sun
I spoke with you, for I had nothing else to do

"Well, y’know, I kind of hate summer",
You boldly murmured while petting a cat
Ah, you pursued that cat as it ran away from you
And what jumped out
Was the traffic light that changed to a glaring red

Suddenly, a truck came out of nowhere and struck you as you screamed
Your scent, now mingled with sprayed blood, choked me
In the haze of lies, the haze of heat laughed, "This is all real!"
With that, like a cricket’s sound being disturbed, the light blue of summer darkened away

I woke up upon my bed to the sound of a ticking clock
What time is it now?

On August 14th, sometime past 12 in the morning
I recalled the sound of an awfully annoying cricket
But, y’know, it’s a little strange.
Yesterday, in a dream, I saw us walking in this same exact park
"Why don’t we go home now?"
The second you stepped off the pathway, everyone surrounding us
Turned their heads up to the sky and opened their mouths

From the sky, down dropped an iron pole
That pierced your body straight through
The sound of wind-chimes and your ripping screams filled the spaces between the park trees
In this unnatural scene,
The shimmering heat laughed, "This is the real thing!"
As my vision blurred away, I glanced at your profile, and thought I saw you smiling

Countless times have had me black out
In the laughing heat like this
This cycle has repeated for decades
I realized that a long time ago

In this kind of clichéd story,
There must only be one ending.
Beyond this repeating summer day, it has to exist.

Suddenly, I pushed you aside and jumped into the street;
At that moment, the truck slammed into me
Your eyes and my twisted body were like hazy reflections of the blood that sprayed everywhere
If that praiseful heat haze laughed, “Serves you right!” again
Then this would be what you’d call a normal summer day.
But all of that ended today.

On August 14th, a girl awoke upon her bed
And she said,
"I failed this time, too..." as she cradled a single cat.
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I think the ttile got cut off
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qwed117 wrote:I think the ttile got cut off
Fixed it
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If you're still looking for lyrics, this tune's been going round my head a lot recently:

Batter my heart, three-person'd God; for you
As yet but knock; breathe, shine, and seek to mend;
That I may rise, and stand, o'erthrow me, and bend
Your force, to break, blow, burn, and make me new.
I, like an usurp'd town, to another due,
Labour to admit you, but O, to no end.
Reason, your viceroy in me, me should defend,
But is captived, and proves weak or untrue.

Yet dearly I love you, and would be loved fain,
But am betroth'd unto your enemy:
Divorce me, untie, or break that knot again,
Take me to you, imprison me, for I,
Except you enthrall me, never shall be free,
Nor ever chaste, except you ravish me.





Or for something a little shorter but still with some interesting elements, here's something I heard at a concert recently:

Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep; but we shall all be changed in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory.
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Salmoneus wrote:If you're still looking for lyrics, this tune's been going round my head a lot recently:

Batter my heart, three-person'd God

[<3] I've always loved this sonnet. I'll work on it but it'll definitely take a lot of time. I'd love to be able to figure out how to keep it in iambic pentameter too which would add even more time [:S] . The biggest pain of conlanging I suppose.

Salmoneus wrote:Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep; but we shall all be changed in a moment, in a twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet.
The trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written: Death is swallowed up in victory.

This one seems fairly easy. I'll probably have this one done soon after Lambuzhao's [:)]
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