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Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 13:22
by esra
Hey/ Namastee,

my conlang biography is Esperanto : Interlingua : Lidepla. Most related in emotion I feel with Lidepla conlang. Because I didn't find any video what shows somebody Lidepla speaking with help of Dimitry and Anastasia I made Lidepla dubbed video one.

Would be nice to discuss about Lidepla here.

Swasti,

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 15:01
by Frislander
Erm, you do realise that this isn't an IAL board?

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 17:11
by esra
Frislander wrote:Erm, you do realise that this isn't an IAL board?
Personally I'm not interested in any political efforts of any conlang to be some world-wide IAL to save world peace. Does this answer your question?

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 17:53
by Frislander
esra wrote:
Frislander wrote:Erm, you do realise that this isn't an IAL board?
Personally I'm not interested in any political efforts of any conlang to be some world-wide IAL to save world peace. Does this answer your question?
Fine. Second question: do you conlang yourself?

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 18:05
by Nachtuil
Perhaps you can post some good references you have found about Lidepla and tell us why you feel it is so emotionally satisfying comparing it to the esperanto and interlingua. My understanding of interlingua was that it was intended as a language that would allow scientific ideas and studies to be shared as broadly as possible with as many people as possible it is easy to imagine that it doesn't focus on emotions.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 20:39
by esra
Frislander wrote:Fine. Second question: do you conlang yourself?
No. Do you?

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 20:59
by gestaltist
esra wrote:
Frislander wrote:Fine. Second question: do you conlang yourself?
No. Do you?
Most people here do. We rarely discuss established conlangs. 99% of the forum activity is dedicated to conlangs we created ourselves.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 21:47
by esra
Nachtuil wrote:Perhaps you can post some good references you have found about Lidepla and tell us why you feel it is so emotionally satisfying comparing it to the esperanto and interlingua.
Well, in my opinion some conlang itself should motivate to produce well sounding pronouncation. Thats why I prefer Lidepla over Esperanto (I have been at some E-o events by the way). In my opinion Interlingua sounds somewhat pathetic. Words are stretched somewhat. Thats why I prefer Lidepla over Interlingua.

For me its emotionally satisfying to speak Lidepla and say afterwards "wow" its like doing some zippy signature or open zippo lighter with words of Lidepla. I'm aware that not everybody like that kind of producing language pronouncation. But thats okay. I could list some conlangs whose pronouncation I don't like. Its fine as is.

Interlingua video with Interlingua subtitle.

Everybody could test itselves with these speak-along videos and sing-alongs: Lidepla speak-alongs 1; Lidepla speak-alongs 2; Interlingua speak-alongs; Esperanto sing-alongs.
Nachtuil wrote:My understanding of interlingua was that it was intended as a language that would allow scientific ideas and studies to be shared as broadly as possible with as many people as possible it is easy to imagine that it doesn't focus on emotions.
Yes, Interlingua is naturalistic conlang (Same for Lidepla). Only grammar concepts and vocabulary what exists in natural languages will made it into Interlingua's (grammar) and vocabulary. Contrary Esperanto can be categorized like schematic conlang.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 21:49
by esra
gestaltist wrote:Most people here do. We rarely discuss established conlangs. 99% of the forum activity is dedicated to conlangs we created ourselves.
Okay. Are you official delegate of CBB to have right to speak so?

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 22:07
by gestaltist
esra wrote:
gestaltist wrote:Most people here do. We rarely discuss established conlangs. 99% of the forum activity is dedicated to conlangs we created ourselves.
Okay. Are you official delegate of CBB to have right to speak so?
Uh, what? I was describing to you what I've seen here in my 1.5 years of presence. Take a chill pill, man...

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 22:11
by esra
gestaltist wrote:Uh, what? I was describing to you what I've seen here in my 1.5 years of presence. Take a chill pill, man...
I prefer Guinness.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 22:55
by Frislander
esra wrote:
gestaltist wrote:Most people here do. We rarely discuss established conlangs. 99% of the forum activity is dedicated to conlangs we created ourselves.
Okay. Are you official delegate of CBB to have right to speak so?
And who are you to dictate who should speak for us? That this forum is dedicated to conlangs created by the users is obvious.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 23:30
by esra
Frislander wrote:And who are you to dictate who should speak for us?
Frislander, some plea to you, presenting its very very personal opinion like some fantasized collective its opinion thats - "strange". You are not part of some organism named CBB, I'm not some part of some organism CBB. You are individual Frislander* with your very personal opinion acting at CBB space, I'm individual esra with my own personal opinion acting at CBB space.

*not some imaginary "us".
Frislander wrote:That this forum is dedicated to conlangs created by the users is obvious.
For you obviously: yes. For me: no.

@administration: Some comment please. I'm open to critique.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 08 Oct 2016 23:47
by qwed117

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 09 Oct 2016 00:21
by esra
qwed117 wrote:Esra, read this: http://www.cbbforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5
Thanks.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 13 Oct 2016 02:06
by shanoxilt
esra wrote: Would be nice to discuss about Lidepla here.
Swasti,
What did you have in mind?

I moderate /r/LingwaDePlaneta on Reddit.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 13 Oct 2016 20:05
by esra
shanoxilt wrote: What did you have in mind?

I moderate /r/LingwaDePlaneta on Reddit.
I.e. if I got it right then naturalistic Lidepla was "compiled"/constructed to be spoken with ease, not mainly to aspect most nice in reading. It contains lot of Azian language vocabulary originaly "developed" using other writing systems than Latin ones. So, does Lidepla meet aim "to roll along the tongue" with ease or not? To answer that question someone could read aloud some Lidepla text or use some speak along instructions i.e. example 1 or example 2.

Reference_grammar#The_alphabet_and_pronounciation

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 15 Oct 2016 05:32
by shanoxilt
I am not sure whether that was supposed to be a comment or a question.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 15 Oct 2016 12:06
by esra
Hhm. Some kind of invitation I would say. Well, let me try to explain.

I.e. I very much like this sentence due its pronouncation and content its convey:

Scene 2 Runa: Me ga bu yao-te kritiki yu. = I shouldn't had like criticise you (?). Its not that easy to translate into German. Maybe: Ich sollte nicht gemögt haben dich zu kritisieren*. I like how this sentence rolls along tongue.

Thats* diction of bloomy archaic German what i.e. could be found at Humboldt its Kosmos publication. I very much like Humboldt its way of telling scientific travelling stories. So, in result there's some personal emotional relation between me and Lidepla via translation between. But I wouldn't find out without speaking it by myself.

Thats what I did wanna point to: I invite everybody to find some kind of personal relation to Lidepla with speaking it.

Re: Lidepla conlang

Posted: 15 Oct 2016 12:55
by Tanni
In following one of the links given, I found that lecture: The Universal Language.