Speedlanging Challenge VII (22 - 25 September)
Speedlanging Challenge VII (22 - 25 September)
The challenge starts now and officially ends on Monday 25 September at 16:00 Greenwich time. It means you have three days for the challenge. If you cannot participate during the official challenge, you can well use the requirements later for you lang and post it here if you want.
There are two groups of requirements for the langs. The first ones (1-5) you should use (I'll not come to bite your nose if you don't). The second group of requirements is optional. You can use all three, two, one, re none of them. IMO they are somewhat more exotic or unknown features.
Good description of a grammar is not just a list of affixes but their use is also explained. It's rarely possible for a speedlang to have a good grammar description, but do what you can.
After the challenge it would be polite, if everybody comments and tells what was interesting and innovative in the others' langs.
Basic requirements.
1. The language should have at least one labio-velar consonant. (I mean real labio-velars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labial%E2 ... _consonant like ͡kp, ͡gb, ŋ͡m, or w. If you don’t want to get exotic /w/ is a good choice).
2. The language has two sibilants.
3. More complex syllables structures than (C)V(C) should be allowed.
4. Morphology should be mainly agglutinative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language . (You can interpret “agglutinative” broadly if you want.)
5. Light verbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_verb should be common. For example: to do sleeping instead of to sleep (Verbs can be an open or a closed class.)
Extras :
6. Different phonations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonation can be distinctive.
7. The language can have a topic-prominent syntax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language . I find topic-prominence a fussy term, but the notion of subject seems to be quite bad describing their syntax and the notion of topic more describing. Interpret the term as you like.
8. Incorporation can appear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorpora ... nguistics) .
If you want a translation challenge to test your lang, I find Ossicone's story "The Cat and the Fish" viewtopic.php?f=9&t=636&hilit=cat+fish a good one. You can use its sentences or the whole story or use example sentences of your own.
If I forgot to say something, please say it.
There are two groups of requirements for the langs. The first ones (1-5) you should use (I'll not come to bite your nose if you don't). The second group of requirements is optional. You can use all three, two, one, re none of them. IMO they are somewhat more exotic or unknown features.
Good description of a grammar is not just a list of affixes but their use is also explained. It's rarely possible for a speedlang to have a good grammar description, but do what you can.
After the challenge it would be polite, if everybody comments and tells what was interesting and innovative in the others' langs.
Basic requirements.
1. The language should have at least one labio-velar consonant. (I mean real labio-velars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labial%E2 ... _consonant like ͡kp, ͡gb, ŋ͡m, or w. If you don’t want to get exotic /w/ is a good choice).
2. The language has two sibilants.
3. More complex syllables structures than (C)V(C) should be allowed.
4. Morphology should be mainly agglutinative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agglutinative_language . (You can interpret “agglutinative” broadly if you want.)
5. Light verbs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_verb should be common. For example: to do sleeping instead of to sleep (Verbs can be an open or a closed class.)
Extras :
6. Different phonations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phonation can be distinctive.
7. The language can have a topic-prominent syntax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-prominent_language . I find topic-prominence a fussy term, but the notion of subject seems to be quite bad describing their syntax and the notion of topic more describing. Interpret the term as you like.
8. Incorporation can appear https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incorpora ... nguistics) .
If you want a translation challenge to test your lang, I find Ossicone's story "The Cat and the Fish" viewtopic.php?f=9&t=636&hilit=cat+fish a good one. You can use its sentences or the whole story or use example sentences of your own.
If I forgot to say something, please say it.
Last edited by Omzinesý on 25 Sep 2017 17:47, edited 7 times in total.
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I might be. Will be travelling Sept 21 - Oct 6 which should leave ample time to speedlang at airports and in-flight.Omzinesý wrote:I see we haven't had a speedlanging challange reasently.
Who would be interested?
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Not moon-caking it here?DesEsseintes wrote:I might be. Will be travelling Sept 21 - Oct 6 which should leave ample time to speedlang at airports and in-flight.
☯ 道可道,非常道
☯ 名可名,非常名
☯ 名可名,非常名
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Nope. Слава богу.Lao Kou wrote:Not moon-caking it here?DesEsseintes wrote:I might be. Will be travelling Sept 21 - Oct 6 which should leave ample time to speedlang at airports and in-flight.
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I'm just not feeling the moon-cake lovin', Des.
Pomelos, BBQ, and so much more!
I think we know where my sympathies lie on the moon-cake snarfing/speedlanging divide.
Pomelos, BBQ, and so much more!
I think we know where my sympathies lie on the moon-cake snarfing/speedlanging divide.
☯ 道可道,非常道
☯ 名可名,非常名
☯ 名可名,非常名
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Mooncakes are just not 和菓子, Brother Kou.Lao Kou wrote:I'm just not feeling the moon-cake lovin', Des.
How one moves up in the world...
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Moon cakes!! Gosh I loved those maxi calorie bombs. Need to get back to East Asia asap.Lao Kou wrote:I'm just not feeling the moon-cake lovin', Des.
Pomelos, BBQ, and so much more!
I think we know where my sympathies lie on the moon-cake snarfing/speedlanging divide.
I used to work in Penang, Malaysia, if anyone wonders.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I am 100% up for one. I've been wanting to propose someone start a speedlang myself :)
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Yeah, it's been a few months. I'd say it's about time for the Speedlanging Weekend VII.
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I'll be participating too. I've never done a speedlang before.
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
So when are you planning on doing this, Omzie?
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
Part of me wants to... But I'm just picking up steam on my actual language project; so I'm torn.
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I normally use speedlangs to explore avenues of my current projects that I'm otherwise leaning against, and the restrictions imposed in most speedlanging challenges tend to force me to think in directions I otherwise wouldn't, so I think speedlanging can complement rather than distract from your main conlanging. Or I'd like to think so at least*.Thrice Xandvii wrote:Part of me wants to... But I'm just picking up steam on my actual language project; so I'm torn.
*but I've failed to participate in the last two or three speedlangings, so I'm not very good at practicing what I preach...
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I might join in, if i do this will be the first speedlang challenge i've participated in.
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I quess this weekend is too early.DesEsseintes wrote:So when are you planning on doing this, Omzie?
Say 22 september.
Or do would you like it now?
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
If it's not before the 22nd of September, I might be able to join, although so far I have always failed to participate and this is the weekend when I have to finalize my thesis. So, I cannot give a promise.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
*raises hand* I'm always interested in speedlangingOmzinesý wrote:I see we haven't had a speedlanging challange reasently.
Who would be interested?
At work on Apaan: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4799
Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
I'll send some requirements for the speedlangs next Friday.
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Re: A speedlanging challange - anybody interested?
*also raises hand*
I'd be interested - I've done speedlangs before with my own set of requirements/restrictions/limits, but never as part of a challenge given by someone else. Sounds fun!
I'd be interested - I've done speedlangs before with my own set of requirements/restrictions/limits, but never as part of a challenge given by someone else. Sounds fun!
Edit: Substituted a string instrument for a French interjection.
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