American English Derived Collablang!
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1. B
2. A
3. F (Shimo's option)
2. A
3. F (Shimo's option)
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1. A
2. C
3. F (Shimo’s suggestion)
2. C
3. F (Shimo’s suggestion)
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
1. A
2. A
3. F(shimo's suggestion)
2. A
3. F(shimo's suggestion)
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But GA uses Canadian raising for /aɪ/.
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Really? Since when? According to whom?
Certainly a wide variety of dialects/accents exhibit /aɪ̯/ raising, mine included, but I've never heard anyone claim that it's a feature of General American before.
I don't mean to be rude; I'm just curious where you're getting your information from. You may be right.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
Not a source I can refer you to, but, but one of the phonology postdocs here (IIRC) said that GA has /aɪ̯/-raising in a more restricted set of contexts, than Canadian raising. Also there seems to be at least some variation and inter-speaker variation. Also:
Wikipedia wrote:Raising of just /aɪ/ is found throughout the United States, and so may be considered an increasingly common General American characteristic, with the only major exception in the U.S. being in the South.
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
All correct.Creyeditor wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018 22:57 Not a source I can refer you to, but, but one of the phonology postdocs here (IIRC) said that GA has /aɪ̯/-raising in a more restricted set of contexts, than Canadian raising. Also there seems to be at least some variation and inter-speaker variation.
I've heard something similar before as well, but without the mention of GA. Interesting.Creyeditor wrote: ↑17 Mar 2018 22:57 Also:Wikipedia wrote:Raising of just /aɪ/ is found throughout the United States, and so may be considered an increasingly common General American characteristic, with the only major exception in the U.S. being in the South.
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Pretty much yeah. I see a lot of questions coming and I don't like double digits in numbering so I just restart. It's also easier for me to remember.shimobaatar wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018 03:15 Why do the question numbers go back to 1 every round? Just a personal preference of the organizer?
I think we should vote on this.
Results are in, sorry for being lazy.
1(b): The shift in vowels will trend toward less vowels
2(a): eɩ oʊ>e: o:
3(f): aɩ aʊ>?
1: aɩ aʊ
What should they monophthongize to?
A:aɩ aʊ>a a
B:aɩ aʊ>ɩ ʊ
C:Something else
2: Canadian raising for aɩ
Should we do it?
A: Yes!
B: No!
C: Trees!
3: Close vowels(i ɩ u ʊ)
What should we do?
A: Leave it
B: i ɩ u ʊ> i i u u
C: i ɩ u ʊ>i: i u: u
D: Something else
4: Open vowels (æ ɑ)
What shall be their fates?
A: Nothing! Leave those poor vowels alone!
B: Merge them to /a/
C: Merge them to /ɑ/
D: Merge them to /æ/
E: Something else
5: ʌ
What shall we do with this baby?
A: Nothing
B: Merge to ǝ
C: Merge with ǝ to ʌ
D: Round it to ɔ
E: Merge with the open vowels(tell me how you would like for that to go)
F: Something else
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
1: c (aɪ̯ aʊ̯ > e o)
2: a
3: d (i ɪ u ʊ > i e u o)
4: b
5: b
2: a
3: d (i ɪ u ʊ > i e u o)
4: b
5: b
Re: American English Derived Collablang!
1. BCarsonDaConlanger wrote: ↑21 Mar 2018 12:23Pretty much yeah. I see a lot of questions coming and I don't like double digits in numbering so I just restart. It's also easier for me to remember.shimobaatar wrote: ↑16 Mar 2018 03:15 Why do the question numbers go back to 1 every round? Just a personal preference of the organizer?
I think we should vote on this.
Results are in, sorry for being lazy.
1(b): The shift in vowels will trend toward less vowels
2(a): eɩ oʊ>e: o:
3(f): aɩ aʊ>?
1: aɩ aʊ
What should they monophthongize to?
A:aɩ aʊ>a a
B:aɩ aʊ>ɩ ʊ
C:Something else
2: Canadian raising for aɩ
Should we do it?
A: Yes!
B: No!
C: Trees!
3: Close vowels(i ɩ u ʊ)
What should we do?
A: Leave it
B: i ɩ u ʊ> i i u u
C: i ɩ u ʊ>i: i u: u
D: Something else
4: Open vowels (æ ɑ)
What shall be their fates?
A: Nothing! Leave those poor vowels alone!
B: Merge them to /a/
C: Merge them to /ɑ/
D: Merge them to /æ/
E: Something else
5: ʌ
What shall we do with this baby?
A: Nothing
B: Merge to ǝ
C: Merge with ǝ to ʌ
D: Round it to ɔ
E: Merge with the open vowels(tell me how you would like for that to go)
F: Something else
2. A
3. D. > ai i au u
4. B
5. B
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
1. C (Shimo's suggestion)
2. A
3. D: i > i, ɪ > ǝ, u > au, ʊ > ə
4. A
5. B
2. A
3. D: i > i, ɪ > ǝ, u > au, ʊ > ə
4. A
5. B
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1. C (ai > εː ; au > ɔː
2. C
3. C
4. E (æ > ε ; ɑ > æ)
5. B
2. C
3. C
4. E (æ > ε ; ɑ > æ)
5. B
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1. (Shimo's suggestions is good)
2. A
3. C
4. B
5. B
2. A
3. C
4. B
5. B
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
I would like to give Shimobaatar recognition for the cool new ideas I wouldn't have thought of, pretty much each round he has something cool to add. Keep it up!
Results are in:
1: c(Shimo's)- aɩ aʊ >e o
2: a- wait a sec, we just removed aɩ lol
3: d(tied so I picked Shimo's)-i>i u>u ɩ>e ʊ>o
4: b-æ,ɑ>a
5: b-ʌ>ǝ
Now onto the last round of our vowel shift:
1: e: e ɛ
We have a lot of front mid vowels. Should we keep this, or change it?
A. Keep it
B. ɛ>e
C. e>ɛ
D. Something else
2: should /a/ be counted as a front vowel (thus palatalizing consonants)?
A: Yes
B: No
C: Something else
3: Should be delete final vowels?
A: No
B: Yes
C: Only where it would make a legal syllable
D: Something else
Results are in:
1: c(Shimo's)- aɩ aʊ >e o
2: a- wait a sec, we just removed aɩ lol
3: d(tied so I picked Shimo's)-i>i u>u ɩ>e ʊ>o
4: b-æ,ɑ>a
5: b-ʌ>ǝ
Now onto the last round of our vowel shift:
1: e: e ɛ
We have a lot of front mid vowels. Should we keep this, or change it?
A. Keep it
B. ɛ>e
C. e>ɛ
D. Something else
2: should /a/ be counted as a front vowel (thus palatalizing consonants)?
A: Yes
B: No
C: Something else
3: Should be delete final vowels?
A: No
B: Yes
C: Only where it would make a legal syllable
D: Something else
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Re: American English Derived Collablang!
Ahh, thank you, that's very nice of you to say!CarsonDaConlanger wrote: ↑28 Mar 2018 13:21 I would like to give Shimobaatar recognition for the cool new ideas I wouldn't have thought of
1: c
2: b
3: d (Delete short non-high vowels, lower short high vowels, and shorten long vowels word-finally, unless deletion would result in an illegal syllable.)
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1. C (I could go either way with A or C honestly)
2. B
3. A
2. B
3. A
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clear! *bump*
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1. B
2. A
3. D (Shimo's suggestion)
Hmm. It's like it's telling me something. What is the inventory like, by the way, at this stage?
2. A
3. D (Shimo's suggestion)
Hmm. It's like it's telling me something. What is the inventory like, by the way, at this stage?
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I am curious too. I am interested to see what happens when we get to grammar too.