Micalangs Scratchpad
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I've been wanting to mess with a no-obstruent language for a while now
ʋéraɲúʎaonúɲiria ɲuohoríniʎuo rúmoraiʎáleʋanoi luʎíɲori
ɲúwuohaoð̞i ruʎouʋeʎewuɲao rowieméʋoað̞inuaʋeð̞a
it sucks
ʋéraɲúʎaonúɲiria ɲuohoríniʎuo rúmoraiʎáleʋanoi luʎíɲori
ɲúwuohaoð̞i ruʎouʋeʎewuɲao rowieméʋoað̞inuaʋeð̞a
it sucks
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The question is... why does it suck?
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Re: Micalangs Scratchpad
Maybe it has pulmonic ingressive consonants?
Or consonants with a glottalic ingressive airstream?
Or with a velaric ingressive airstream?
My minicity is http://gonabebig1day.myminicity.com/xml
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Getting better
wihrúʔweʔnoʔlúʔ lenúer̊oʔyah m̊uim̊aeni n̊ilówur̊eh nuneumúɲ̊ióẘa yuhloríh
ménoinaléʔ wóméaliʔ yíaɲimoʔloʔneh m̊aúm̊oiyúʔʎi miyemuʔɲul̥é nímeʔʎeiwe
riʔɲeʎ̥áhʎ̥óh moiɲ̊u ʎ̥oʔʎuhʎúnuʔniu n̊éhɲeowiwo ɲuáleʎeí
(I just can't resist glottal codas, even if it makes the language not obstruent-less anymore, strictly speaking)
wihrúʔweʔnoʔlúʔ lenúer̊oʔyah m̊uim̊aeni n̊ilówur̊eh nuneumúɲ̊ióẘa yuhloríh
ménoinaléʔ wóméaliʔ yíaɲimoʔloʔneh m̊aúm̊oiyúʔʎi miyemuʔɲul̥é nímeʔʎeiwe
riʔɲeʎ̥áhʎ̥óh moiɲ̊u ʎ̥oʔʎuhʎúnuʔniu n̊éhɲeowiwo ɲuáleʎeí
(I just can't resist glottal codas, even if it makes the language not obstruent-less anymore, strictly speaking)
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Why do I do this
ǀóũ ta̋e ᶢǃǎeˤ nâoˤ dzáaˤ ᶢǂx̌őũ
ŋào ǃʼgǔũ ʘʰmâã ǂìĩ tāoˤ ǀʰŋmāuˤ
ǀʰdőaˤ ᶢǀgbôĩ dzǎa ᵑǁgbǒũ ŋǔi pàĩ
gōeˤ ǂʰóe ǁʰōuˤ ʘʰúĩ ǁʰkóã ʘʰǎaˤ
fǒẽ ʘáe ǀtói ǀʰdóiˤ ǀʼgběẽ x̌űi bȉiˤ
gbőiˤ dzâoˤ ᶢǁmèe ᵑʘǒuˤ ᶢǃmőũ ǂx̌a̋e
ǀóũ ta̋e ᶢǃǎeˤ nâoˤ dzáaˤ ᶢǂx̌őũ
ŋào ǃʼgǔũ ʘʰmâã ǂìĩ tāoˤ ǀʰŋmāuˤ
ǀʰdőaˤ ᶢǀgbôĩ dzǎa ᵑǁgbǒũ ŋǔi pàĩ
gōeˤ ǂʰóe ǁʰōuˤ ʘʰúĩ ǁʰkóã ʘʰǎaˤ
fǒẽ ʘáe ǀtói ǀʰdóiˤ ǀʼgběẽ x̌űi bȉiˤ
gbőiˤ dzâoˤ ᶢǁmèe ᵑʘǒuˤ ᶢǃmőũ ǂx̌a̋e
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No, what makes you think it might be? (I only do a priori conlanging)
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It's vaguely Khoisan-esque, yes. If there's one skill I have it's crafting aesthetics to match certain natlangs or natlang families. Too bad it's worthless for what I want to do.
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I have no idea what I'm doing anymore
ikkūnna hēhayō'a hottēwu kokkō
ikkūn-ra hēha-yō'a hottē-wu kokkō
station-NOM here-FROM far-ADJ.NEG COP
The station is not far from here
nēkkoni kirōkinitta
nēkko-ni ki-rōki-nitta
bus-DE 1sg.NOM-ride-PST
I rode the bus
dokke ho'otōkkona?
dokke ho-hotō-kko=na
which.one 2sg.NOM-eat-PRES=Q
Which one will you eat?
ikkūnna hēhayō'a hottēwu kokkō
ikkūn-ra hēha-yō'a hottē-wu kokkō
station-NOM here-FROM far-ADJ.NEG COP
The station is not far from here
nēkkoni kirōkinitta
nēkko-ni ki-rōki-nitta
bus-DE 1sg.NOM-ride-PST
I rode the bus
dokke ho'otōkkona?
dokke ho-hotō-kko=na
which.one 2sg.NOM-eat-PRES=Q
Which one will you eat?
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Me neither.
dokke nēkkoni ho'otōrōkinittana?
which.one bus-DE 2sg.NOM-ride-PST=Q
That makes 2 of us.
dokke nēkkoni ho'otōrōkinittana?
which.one bus-DE 2sg.NOM-ride-PST=Q
That makes 2 of us.
Re: Micalangs Scratchpad
ahekae nekkōni kirōkinitta
I rode the red bus.
My new scrap project has a name: Kaonai'ōtonno. Made some phonoaesthetic changes:
ketairatikka tehotittoni ināhitā okānaka
akkokoron konnirao nittattirrōrio tanaho
nidōkarī okotiyi ekodā'i tanō'ahīyen
waoyahiko yogekāwoko okkegahokan
ohoyā'iyari taraotononi konkiyeo'o
kakenkido hōtokokē ewokō
honnonkōtekon ehoretē ataheko'ogano iwokā
Should I ditch the voiced plosives?
I kinda wanna add coda h and glottal stop but that's kinda my default aesthetic, like putting cayenne pepper into everything. I like it but maybe I should do something different
Should I make it.... poly?
I rode the red bus.
My new scrap project has a name: Kaonai'ōtonno. Made some phonoaesthetic changes:
ketairatikka tehotittoni ināhitā okānaka
akkokoron konnirao nittattirrōrio tanaho
nidōkarī okotiyi ekodā'i tanō'ahīyen
waoyahiko yogekāwoko okkegahokan
ohoyā'iyari taraotononi konkiyeo'o
kakenkido hōtokokē ewokō
honnonkōtekon ehoretē ataheko'ogano iwokā
Should I ditch the voiced plosives?
I kinda wanna add coda h and glottal stop but that's kinda my default aesthetic, like putting cayenne pepper into everything. I like it but maybe I should do something different
Should I make it.... poly?
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I like the aesthetics of this!Micamo wrote: ↑01 Jun 2019 22:35 My new scrap project has a name: Kaonai'ōtonno. Made some phonoaesthetic changes:
ketairatikka tehotittoni ināhitā okānaka
akkokoron konnirao nittattirrōrio tanaho
nidōkarī okotiyi ekodā'i tanō'ahīyen
waoyahiko yogekāwoko okkegahokan
ohoyā'iyari taraotononi konkiyeo'o
kakenkido hōtokokē ewokō
honnonkōtekon ehoretē ataheko'ogano iwokā
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It’s all duolingo’s fault. [/private joke]ketairatikka tehotittoni ināhitā okānaka
akkokoron konnirao nittattirrōrio tanaho
nidōkarī okotiyi ekodā'i tanō'ahīyen
waoyahiko yogekāwoko okkegahokan
ohoyā'iyari taraotononi konkiyeo'o
kakenkido hōtokokē ewokō
honnonkōtekon ehoretē ataheko'ogano iwokā
Seriously though, it looks to me like you’re doing an NA style polylang with a heavy dose of Jappo influence?
Things I love here:
- iyi sequences
- the use of macrons (I’ve never pulled it off)
- the sparing use of diphthongs
Were it mine, I’d keep them, because of the strict phonotactics and lack of labials, both of which lead to a very minimal look. My idea would be to disallow word-initial voiced stops, like in most native Japanese words.Should I ditch the voiced plosives?
I’m not using coda glottals for the exact same reason in Ch’eweyõw̌e, but I do have glottalised continuants and ejectives to scratč’ that itč’.I kinda wanna add coda h and glottal stop but that's kinda my default aesthetic, like putting cayenne pepper into everything. I like it but maybe I should do something different
Yes, but no noun incorporation*.Should I make it.... poly?
*Just because that’s what I’m doing in Ch’eweyõw̌e. No bias or anything.
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It's more like a cross between jappo and polynesian languages phonoaesthetically but, yes, basically.DesEsseintes wrote: ↑02 Jun 2019 06:01Seriously though, it looks to me like you’re doing an NA style polylang with a heavy dose of Jappo influence?
That's not a bad idea,and pretty much what I've been doing already, I just hadn't noticed. My general method for building phonoaesthetics is to create an awkwords generator for a general "word shape" I have in mind, delete all the ugly ones, then adjust the rules so that only the pretty words end up being generated.Were it mine, I’d keep them, because of the strict phonotactics and lack of labials, both of which lead to a very minimal look. My idea would be to disallow word-initial voiced stops, like in most native Japanese words.
Too bad:Yes, but no noun incorporation*.
*Just because that’s what I’m doing in Ch’eweyõw̌e. No bias or anything.
aekogīni kakkōhiyo kiyokīdoggahotōkko
aekogī-ni kakkōhiyo ki-okīdogga-hotō-kko
morning-LOC each_time 1sg.NOM-fragrant_rice-eat-PRES
I eat fragrant rice every morning.
Also I have a new favorite word in this lang: okahō'on. No idea what it means.
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wtf even is this
czurdzu'krul thahtsuzdhet vu'lthehk shodh'ahldz'as
dhadh'ir tahve'tehk zahlthes sogadzhehn laczuhna'sh
zahkrohvo'sun z'ova'zhahn sohsgurye'lat
czohkeld'ucz'ot tsad'uhtrohdz'ot ve'csezh'ahk
czurdzu'krul thahtsuzdhet vu'lthehk shodh'ahldz'as
dhadh'ir tahve'tehk zahlthes sogadzhehn laczuhna'sh
zahkrohvo'sun z'ova'zhahn sohsgurye'lat
czohkeld'ucz'ot tsad'uhtrohdz'ot ve'csezh'ahk
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A simple naming language project for a fantasy novel I'm currently drafting. It's deliberately meant to evoke the feel of Latin and Greek, but be prettier and have a few twists. It'll probably end up being named Vorsari or something similar.
Keinos Suriores Jistanien
Bellaria Tiama Saeworos
Viraniar Taevorenos Askeltae
Kenakios Doivera Faemenos
It's shit
Keinos Suriores Jistanien
Bellaria Tiama Saeworos
Viraniar Taevorenos Askeltae
Kenakios Doivera Faemenos
It's shit
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Funny. I’m also working on an idea for a “Classical” language.Micamo wrote: ↑28 Oct 2019 14:28 A simple naming language project for a fantasy novel I'm currently drafting. It's deliberately meant to evoke the feel of Latin and Greek, but be prettier and have a few twists. It'll probably end up being named Vorsari or something similar.
Keinos Suriores Jistanien
Bellaria Tiama Saeworos
Viraniar Taevorenos Askeltae
Kenakios Doivera Faemenos
It's shit
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Another fantasy novel naming language, this one used in the modern day for an area I'm tentatively calling "the baronies."
nwtrinth emúsy mhyimwvi llamshlwruavhí
orhýllinh nomridhróll vhóebrych iolrúnhẃi
ghlálhevhgwsdh bhénham ialliunralhein
othay mhúlauvẃth ceamhill elmsýlheth
I really like the word Orhýllinh, I'll probably use it as an important city name or something.
nwtrinth emúsy mhyimwvi llamshlwruavhí
orhýllinh nomridhróll vhóebrych iolrúnhẃi
ghlálhevhgwsdh bhénham ialliunralhein
othay mhúlauvẃth ceamhill elmsýlheth
I really like the word Orhýllinh, I'll probably use it as an important city name or something.
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A new langauge called Súošël. I was bored so instead of just making up a list of names I like, thought that's sure to be all that actually appears in the book assuming I ever actually finish writing it, I decided to write a short sample as well.
Gúososkënïn reshen cëokosmïnosrën luotul. Wúsoešëkït Cëxri̋s Bëoronïs čűoxönet Xúlnëxïes wíeč. De̋osokït réot cűnit tőecxönet wíeč šiek kïe sëorosnïenï dïrbi̋ros Yűokielmöris.
Gúososkënïn reshen cëokosmïnosrën luotul. Wúsoešëkït Cëxri̋s Bëoronïs čűoxönet Xúlnëxïes wíeč. De̋osokït réot cűnit tőecxönet wíeč šiek kïe sëorosnïenï dïrbi̋ros Yűokielmöris.
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