The Collablang Take II (Check first post oft)
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In deciding phonotactics it'd be a good idea to keep in mind what kind of morphology this is supposed to implement. What's the maximum number of affixes that can appear on a word at once? 3? 5? 14?
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We're going for isolating.
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It's kinda weird, I know.roninbodhisattva wrote:Wait, we don't have rounded vowels?
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I vote for at least /u/. Or at least /o/.Ceresz wrote:It's kinda weird, I know.roninbodhisattva wrote:Wait, we don't have rounded vowels?
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I could go for /o/. It'd be nice to skip /u/ for once.
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So have we settled on this: /i ɨ ɯ ɛ ɜ ɤ æ a ɑ/? Or could we edit it a little...maybe something like:
/i ɨ ɯ ɛ ɤ o æ ɑ/
I actually am not partial to the three way distinction in the low vowels.
/i ɨ ɯ ɛ ɤ o æ ɑ/
I actually am not partial to the three way distinction in the low vowels.
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I think /æ/ and /a/ were supposed to be merged, or maybe occur in free variation or something.roninbodhisattva wrote:So have we settled on this: /i ɨ ɯ ɛ ɜ ɤ æ a ɑ/? Or could we edit it a little...maybe something like:
/i ɨ ɯ ɛ ɤ o æ ɑ/
I actually am not partial to the three way distinction in the low vowels.
But of course we can edit. Nothing has been decided yet, as far as I know.
We all have to agree before moving on.
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I actually still really like this, but I guess I was the only one (other than Ronin):
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I really do think that is sexy still.
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If I get to vote on a specific vowel system, I'd really like to go with that one.
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I'll throw my hat in the ring for that one too. Also, if we have voiceless /m n/, why not voiceless /ŋ/?
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Oh, I didn't even notice the /ŋ/!
But man, <ngh> looks really ugly.
I almost want to suggest using dots for marking unvoiced nasals, but it's not really practical.
ṃ ṇ ṇg
But man, <ngh> looks really ugly.
I almost want to suggest using dots for marking unvoiced nasals, but it's not really practical.
ṃ ṇ ṇg
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<m̊ n̊ ŋ̊>
Bwhaha, I've always wanted to use ŋ as orthography.
Bwhaha, I've always wanted to use ŋ as orthography.
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<mh nh ŋh>? Please.Ossicone wrote:<m̊ n̊ ŋ̊>
Bwhaha, I've always wanted to use ŋ as orthography.
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I think <ŋ> looks nice actually, but I'm not sure everyone agrees .
I wouldn't mind using <ŋ> to get rid of <ngh> (supposing that we add unvoiced /ŋ/, which we probably should).
<mh nh ŋh> looks pretty nice.
I wouldn't mind using <ŋ> to get rid of <ngh> (supposing that we add unvoiced /ŋ/, which we probably should).
<mh nh ŋh> looks pretty nice.
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I really prefer <ŋ> to <ng> in most cases.
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I vote yes to <mh nh ŋh>
Honestly, I handwrite ŋ instead of ng all the time.
Honestly, I handwrite ŋ instead of ng all the time.
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Okay then. I'm not sure how many people are working on this project, but it looks like we'll be using <mh nh ŋh> (assuming we're going by majority here).
So, if everyone agrees we'll have:
/m m̥ n̥ n ŋ ŋ̥/ m n ŋ mh nh ŋh
/t k/ t k
/v~ʋ tθ~ts tɬ s ʃ h/ v tz tl s sh h
/j ɰ l r/ j w l r
So, if everyone agrees we'll have:
/m m̥ n̥ n ŋ ŋ̥/ m n ŋ mh nh ŋh
/t k/ t k
/v~ʋ tθ~ts tɬ s ʃ h/ v tz tl s sh h
/j ɰ l r/ j w l r
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Could we have the non-lateral affricate harmonize to [tʃ] when in a word with /ʃ/?