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The tongue part you put on the palate isn't the same as where you do velars. Maybe you got that wrong? (Just asking.)

Spanish got one palatal (actually two in castilian Spanish), maybe this will help:

http://www.uiowa.edu/~acadtech/phonetic ... meset.html

Speaking of "common sound you cannot pronounce at all":

/e/

Fuckin' /e/

Every time I try to do it, it comes out as /E/ or /eI/.

EVERY FUCKING TIME

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Just do it without moving your tongue?... (Once you're on the [e] step.)

The reason I'm convinced I can produce a velar trill is because I can also produce a uvular trill.
Maybe there's a secondary articulation thing going on, but the sounds aren't the same.

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The post you quote isn't about the uvular/velar trill... ¬¬

Oh, bleh...
You knew what I meant though, right?

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I can pronounce everything except creaky and stiff voice,non-simple clicks(glottalized,linguopulmonic etc.),and uvular inplosive.

I could pronounce the alveolar trill, bilabial fricative and lateral alveolar affricate; other than that, was limited to just English phonemes. Since then I've learnt palatal plosives and fricatives, uvular plosives and trill (still have trouble with it though), velar fricatives, ejectives, prenasalised plosives (love them), dental, alveolar and palatal clicks, and lateral fricatives. Vowels are something else entirely.

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Before getting interested in phonetics, I could pronounce the sounds of my English dialect plus c ɟ ɲ ʀ r ʁ x ç β ɬ ʎ ʔ y ø œ. I did however struggle with ð, which I pronounced intermittently as d̪, and æ, which I still pronounce as /a/ (not uncommon here).

Now, I can pretty much pronounce it all except for ⱱ ɽ and ɴ (though I'm not entirely sure if I do the pharyngealised consonants correctly or not.) It takes a bit of effort to do the rounded mid-central vowels too.

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I can pronounce all of them except the pharyngeals. What I definitely cannot pronounce are implosives. Not a chance.

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I have always been pretty good at replicating sounds just by hearing them. Before I studied any phonetics, I could definitely do [r], [x], [c], and [ɟ]. I not entirely sure on [ħ], but I think I may have been able to do it (it's certainly not a sound that I could have imagined being used in any real language.) I'm not reall sure what's the difference between [r] and [r̝].

Now, I'm fairly confident that I can pronounce all the pulmonic consonants on the IPA chart from velar forward (and glottals, of course). I can do uvular plosives, fricatives, and the nasal. I can't do the trill or tap though, and I can't do any of the radical consonants except for [ħ].

I can't really do implosives correctly. I can do ejectives, but I have to concentrate really hard. I also have a hard time with palatalized consonants (but not the palatal consonants themselves). I know how to do them but when I try to pronounce them in words they often turn into simple clusters with [j]. I also can't do certain consonant/vowel combinations. For example, I can only do [x] and [ɣ] with back vowels and I can only do [ç] and [ʝ] with front vowels. (They are basically allophones in my head.)

I'm really bad at consonant clusters which is why most of my conlangs look like Japanese and why I will never learn Russian. Also, I can't say [ji] (so me "year" and "ear" are the same) and I have to try really hard to do [wu].

Odd, I find [wu] to be easy, but [ji] is pretty damn hard too. I also possess trouble with palatalized consonants.

I also find ejectives to be very easy to pronounce. My trouble is doing vowels after them--the "POP" from the ejective tends to over-power the vowel sound and make it nearly in-discernable.

In addition, ejectives tend to tire out my lungs quickly, for some reason.

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Maybe try to imagine [ji] and [wu] as [j̩ː] and [w̩ː].

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Are you sure you're pronouncing them right? Ejectives are non-pulmonic, so shouldn't really involve your lungs much at all, surely.

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I could pronounce [x], [c], [ɟ], [q] (though that one ended up as [q͡χ] more often than not), and the vowels [ø] and [y]. I suppose if one considers /θ/ and /ð/ (from English, my native language) "exotic" as well, given their relative rarity amongst the world's languages, then those could then be included as well.

Does anyone have audioclips of them pronouncing the various 'weird' sounds?

I tell myself I have rough idea of how most phonemes with separate IPA symbols, but I can't guarantee that I pronounce them correctly (=with the same accuracy as a native speaker).

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I have no idea how to pronounce the glottal stop.When I listen to the Wikipedia audio I just hear a period of quiet between two as.

I could pronounce all of those you listed correctly right away, at least in my own opinion, as soon as I got interested in phonetics and phonology; except that I still have much trouble making or hearing the difference between an alveolar trill and a raised alveolar trill.

But I didn't even know about the palatal plosives before I got interested in phonetics and phonology; and I think my finding out about alveolar trills and velar fricatives counted as "interest in phonetics and phonology" even though I'd never heard the terms "phonetics and phonology".

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That's pretty much what it is though, mostly only audible between vowels and at the end of words. I guess you could see it as the null consonant, i.e. when a syllable starts with a vowel, it really starts with a glottal stop. Unless you're Hawaiian, appearantly... I think it depends on the "phonology" how one wishes to analyze it really.

Anyway, this article explains a little more than the one with the recording: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllable#Onset

You are able to pronounce it, I'm sure of it. =)

As for the other consonants previously mentioned, I don't know if I can pronounce them correctly (probably not)... I can't do many consonants at all, other than the ordinary English ones, haha... Poor me. Although I am pretty decent at laterals.

All voiceless plosives involves a period of science. A (voiceless) plosive consists of:

(1) a "catch" or "stop phase - the "beginning" of the plosive.
(2) a "hold" phase - the "core" of the plosive, a short period of silence.
(3) the release phase.

We literally don't hear (2). Plosives are made known to us through (1) and (2), the "edges" of the plosive, so to speak. The phonetic qualities of a plosive is therefore more or less intertwined with those of the adjacent vowels. (1) is when a the airflow of a preceding vowel gradually is stopped. Depending on where in the mouth the stop is formed, it may have different effects on the "end" or "final stage" of the vowel. (This is the only way in which we hear a word-final unreleased voiceless plosive.) Also the release phase (3) affects the beginning of a following vowel.

The principles are the same for all plosives, nonunirregardlessly of their POA. There are languages that contrasts a word-initial glottal plosive with a zero-onset. It should also be possible to end a word with a glottal stop, and this may contrast with a word ending in a vowel. (Some English dialects do, compare <see> /si:/ with <seat> /si:?/, etc.)

However, glottal plosives are in a sense "weaker" than other plosives (their phonetic effects are not as salient as those of plosives at other POAs). It may be more difficult for an untrained ear to detect them. In many languages, therefore, glottal stops are a kind "borderline" sounds, that may be inserted more or less unconsciously before, for example, a "bare" vowel. A "regular" plosive turning into a glottal one may be the first step to its being dropped completely, kV > ?V > V.

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