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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2012, 23:41 
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I would add that most swedish verbs end in -a when its in infinitive form.
Sjunga => Sjunger
Spela => Spelar

Typicly an -a can be added to the end to make it a verb from other word classes.

Gå and a few other more common verbs are of course exceptional as we can expect

And only a minority of dialects keep that morpheme. As I already showcased, my dialect of Swedish has pretty much infinitives ending in every phoneme except /h/


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 01:21 
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zelos wrote:
I would add that most swedish verbs end in -a when its in infinitive form.
Sjunga => Sjunger
Spela => Spelar

Typicly an -a can be added to the end to make it a verb from other word classes.

Gå and a few other more common verbs are of course exceptional as we can expect

They follow another rule, namely that verbs with monosyllabic stems ending in a vowel take -Ø in the infinitive [;)] cf. tro, gå, se, bli, fly, etc.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 04:01 
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Not for derived verbs, though. The noun spö yields spöa, not spö.

Also, no, not all present tense forms end in -r; vet, kan, skall, vill, et cetera... Also, present tense subjunctive forms, that are thus still present, usually take -e.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 12:24 
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Skógvur wrote:
Not for derived verbs, though. The noun spö yields spöa, not spö.

Also, no, not all present tense forms end in -r; vet, kan, skall, vill, et cetera... Also, present tense subjunctive forms, that are thus still present, usually take -e.

How many people still use present tense subjunctive except maybe vore and hade?


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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 17:52 
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Systemzwang wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
Not for derived verbs, though. The noun spö yields spöa, not spö.

Also, no, not all present tense forms end in -r; vet, kan, skall, vill, et cetera... Also, present tense subjunctive forms, that are thus still present, usually take -e.

How many people still use present tense subjunctive except maybe vore and hade?

Does it matter? The handful of ones that are in common use still count. No matter how you wish to analyse them mood-wise, they're still present tense forms ending in -e rather than -r.

I do know people who like to use subjunctives of any verbs if it works out, though, but this is of course out of personal choice (one of them writes lots of poems, for example, and has gotten the practice from there) and not by native instinct to do so. It's sad.

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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 18:29 
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How is the Swedish sunjunctive formed?
They don't teach is in Finnish schools.
Apparently with -e?


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PostPosted: Tue 15 May 2012, 23:03 
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How is the Swedish sunjunctive formed?
They don't teach is in Finnish schools.
Apparently with -e?

I suppose you can say that the rule for weak verbs is usually for the present to take the infinitive root and for the past tense to be the same as in the indicative. For strong verbs, the past tense takes the supine root and replaces the suffix with -e.

So the subjunctive present of weak verbs such as hoppa and bränna are hoppe and bränne in analogy with their infinitives. These have the same subjunctive past as the indicative past.

However, the subjunctive past of a strong verb such as finna becomes funne, in analogy with the supine funnit (suffix -it). The present subjunctive is just finne, though, with the infinitive root, just like for the weak verbs.

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