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PostPosted: Thu 26 Apr 2012, 20:03 
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eldin raigmore wrote:
By SA you mean South African, right?


Yes.

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 05:05 
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Eastern end of Long Island, Southampton to be specific.

<pasta> - [ˈpʰɑstə]
<lasagna> - [ləˈzɑɲə]
<taco> - [ˈtʰɑkəʊ̯]
<llama> - [ˈlɑmə]
<lava> - [ˈlɑvə]
<drama> - [ˈd͡ʒɹɑmə]
<plaza> - [ˈplɑzə]
<Iran> - [ɨɻ.ˈɑn] / [aɪ̯.ˈɹæn]
<Iraq> - [ɨɻ.ˈɑk] / [aɪ̯.ˈɹæk]
<-istan> - [ɨˌstan] / [ɨˌstæn]
<kebab> - [kəˈbɑb]
<salsa> - [ˈsɑɫsə]
<mafia> - [ˈmɑfi.ə]
<latte> - [ˈlɑteɪ̯]
<soprano> – [səˈpɻɑnəʊ̯] / [səˈpɹænəʊ̯]
<Slavic> - [ˈslavɨk] / [ˈslɑvɨk]
<Slovak> - [ˈslovak] / *
<banana> - [bəˈnænə]
<pyjamas> – [pʰəd͡ʒɑməz]

Two separate transcriptions for a word represent areas where there is a significant difference in vowel qualities between my own idiolect and the local dialect.
* I'm not sure what the local pronunciation of <Slovak> would be and where it would differ from my idiolect, since I haven't heard anyone say that particular word. I'd wager [ˈsləʊ̯væk] as a first guess, though.


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 11:47 
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Eschatologist wrote:

Two separate transcriptions for a word represent areas where there is a significant difference in vowel qualities between my own idiolect and the local dialect.


I guess your idiolectal pronunciations are the first ones mentioned, right?

Any ideas about where your idiolect could hail from? Did you or your family originally come from somewhere else, or did you acquire your "idiosyncrasies" from somewhere else (media, education, etc.)?

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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 13:59 
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I guess your idiolectal pronunciations are the first ones mentioned, right?


Yes.

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Any ideas about where your idiolect could hail from? Did you or your family originally come from somewhere else, or did you acquire your "idiosyncrasies" from somewhere else (media, education, etc.)?


I probably acquired those differences due to some combination of education, media, and in general having been raised without much of the more extensive contact that might have moved my idiolect closer to the norm. It's also possible my parents had something to do with it--my mother lived in Seattle for a significant portion of her life, and my father was born in the northern part of New Jersey--but I'm not sure about any specifics.


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PostPosted: Sun 29 Apr 2012, 15:31 
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<pasta> - æ
<lasagna> - æ
<taco> - æ
<llama> - ɑ
<lava> - ɑ
<drama> - ɑ
<plaza> - ɑ
<Iran> - ɑ
<Iraq> - ɑ
<-istan> - ɑ
<kebab> - æ
<salsa> - æ
<mafia> - æ
<latte> - ɑ
<soprano> - ɑ
<Slavic> - ɑ
<Slovak> - æ
<banana> - ɑ
<pyjamas> - ɑ

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 20:59 
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pasta ['pʰæstə]
lasagna [lə'zɑːnjə]
taco ['tʰækəʊ̯]
llama ['lɑːmə]
lava ['lɑːvə]
drama ['drɑːmə]
plaza ['pʰlɑːzə]
Iran [ɨ'rɑːn]
Iraq [ɨ'rɑːk]
-istan [ɨˌstɑːn]
kebab [kʰə'bæb]
salsa ['sælsə]
mafia ['mæfi.ə]
latte ['lɑːtʰeɪ̯]
soprano [sə'prɑːnəʊ̯]
Slavic ['slævɨk]
Slovak ['sləʊ̯væk]
banana [bə'nɑːnə]
pyjamas [pʰə'ʤɑːməz]

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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2012, 21:47 
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pasta ['pʰastɛ]
lasagna [lə'zaːnjɛ]
taco ['tʰaxɛʉ]
llama ['lɑːmɛ]
lava ['lɑːvɛ]
drama ['drɑːmɛ]
plaza ['pʰlɑːzɛ]
Iran [ɪ'ɾaːn]
Iraq [ɪ'ɾaːkx]
-istan [ɪˌstan]
kebab [kʰə'bab]
salsa ['salsɛ]
mafia ['mafi.ɛ]
latte ['latʰeɪ]
soprano [sə'pɾɑːnɛʉ]
Slavic ['slɑːvɪx]
Slovak ['slɛʉvakx]
banana [bə'nɑːnɛ]
pyjamas [pʰə'ʤɑːməz]

Liverpool English.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2012, 17:10 
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/A/ in all but 'plaza', 'Iraq', '-istan', 'soprano', and 'banana', where I have /{/.


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PostPosted: Fri 04 May 2012, 23:13 
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pasta [ˈpastə]
lasagna [ləˈzaɲə]
taco ['takoː]
llama [ˈlaːmə]
lava [ˈlɑvə]
drama ['dɹɑːmə]
plaza [ˈplɑːzə]
Iran [ɪˈɾan]
Iraq [ɪˈɾak]
-istan [ɪsˈtan]
kebab [kəˈbab]
salsa [ˈsalsə]
mafia [ˈmafiə]
latte ['lateː]
soprano [səˈprɑno]
Slavic [ˈslɑːvɪk]
Slovak [ˈsloːvak]
banana [bəˈnɑːnə]
pyjamas [pɪˈdʒɑːməz]

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PostPosted: Sat 05 May 2012, 00:23 
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I've generally got [ɑ] when it's in an open syllable (llama, lava, pyjamas etc.), and [æ] when its in a closed syllable (pasta, lasagna (with [n.j] for the <gn>, Slovak, kebab etc.)

The exceptions are Iraq, Iran and -istan, which have [ɑ], and taco, latte and mafia, which have [æ].

(I speak (mostly) Southern British English.)

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