RIP cursive handwriting..

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lsd wrote: 13 Nov 2017 17:04 I wonder if, like for the endangered languages, conlangs is a cure...
Do you have any cursive scripts added to your print for your conlangs...
Can you produce comparative examples...
There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.

For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.
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I was taught cursive when I was younger, but I never ended up using it. But it seems somewhere in high school and onwards I've innovated my own cursive (which is not particularly different or amazing or illegible) which I still use now; I've just out of need developed it without much thought. I think that's what cursive is essentially: if you have need to write with a pen often and quickly, then cursive handwriting will naturally develop.

I know for instance Hebrew cursive is a thing nowadays, although the letters themselves are not linked together in either standard Hebrew block lettering or cursive; Hebrew cursive is curvy and abbreviated Hebrew lettering.
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elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.
With the Talarian we are almost to make a link between cuneiform writing and Chinese writing ... I did not notice their proximity ...
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.
With Avantimannish the link is more common on a runic style and a cycillic cursive style...
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lsd wrote: 14 Nov 2017 17:27
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.
With the Talarian we are almost to make a link between cuneiform writing and Chinese writing ... I did not notice their proximity ...
The visual is quite intentional. Cuneiform painted with delicate brush strokes on bark paper.
lsd wrote: 14 Nov 2017 17:27
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.
With Avantimannish the link is more common on a runic style and a cycillic cursive style...
Cyrillic connexion is unintentional though there are clear similarities.
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lsd wrote: 13 Nov 2017 17:04Do you have any cursive scripts added to your print for your conlangs...
Can you produce comparative examples...
I have a few:

Uyendur Cursive is so different from Classical Uyendur script that they may as well be different scripts:
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Gosudondiul, a relative of Uyendur script, is also cursive, though it has no non-cursive version (the one it evolved from is extinct). I have not created the language for this script yet, so I am just writing the same Uyendur text:
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Domun has a cursive version (the middle column is the standard form):
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Qgam Dzwo also has a Chinesey cursive style:
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Uyendur and Gosudondiul are very cursive writing...
Domun and Qgam Dzwo are more block letters... (and I can not help but lean my head to read them horizontally...)
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I have very neat printing, so I don't like to use cursive because it never looks as nice as my printing. That said, I do seem to use cursive for in-class essays (it's not required at my school, but it's recommended). So I guess I have found some uses for it :)
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lsd wrote: 15 Nov 2017 18:52 (and I can not help but lean my head to read them horizontally...)
You said this the last time I posted a vertical conscript. I guess you are just not particularly used to vertical writing in general.
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I'm a fan of Qgam Dzwo, have you posted about it before?
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It's a language I've only used on CWS. It's actually written in two scripts: the traditional alphabetic one here, which is a minority script, and an imported logographic script, which is the primary script. But due to the foibles of collaboration, the logographic script is getting revamped and so I can't really use it at this point. Maybe I should write about it somewhere around here later on. Anyway, this is getting off topic.
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Sorry it's so big, I have no idea how to make it smaller.

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Easiest way would be to open it in Paint and simply adjust the sizing to something a bit smaller. Elsewise, I would usually suggest you throw it in a spoiler... but that still isn't working so far as I know.
Spoiler:
Testing.
Edit: Nope it isn't.
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clawgrip wrote: 15 Nov 2017 23:40 You said this the last time I posted a vertical conscript. I guess you are just not particularly used to vertical writing in general.
This is not the case for all the vertical scripts that I examine, it is certainly due to a certain dissymmetry, related to the direction of the writing, like a cursive ... Whereas for example the Chinese is very balanced and does not seem linked to a writing path ...
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Spoiler:
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Well I said I'd include some of my handwriting, and just in case:
sangi39 wrote:If I try to write neatly, and take my time, then my handwriting looks like this (especially if I write for other people)

However if I write quickly and just let my hand move a little faster, like I'm in a rush, then my writing is awful.

[NOTE WRITING]

(I also have a note form that looks like this.)

Sometimes, if I'm writing for muself, I'll trans-ition into a complete mess by the end.

(I can only just about read this, trust me.
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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Thrice Xandvii wrote: 17 Nov 2017 06:45 Easiest way would be to open it in Paint and simply adjust the sizing to something a bit smaller. Elsewise, I would usually suggest you throw it in a spoiler... but that still isn't working so far as I know.
Spoiler:
Testing.
Edit: Nope it isn't.
The Spoiler function is working for me now [:)] You said "testing".
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
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DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
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sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.
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DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:12
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.
Even the unreadable forms? A god! We're all gonna die [:P]
You can tell the same lie a thousand times,
But it never gets any more true,
So close your eyes once more and once more believe
That they all still believe in you.
Just one time.
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sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:26
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:12
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.
Even the unreadable forms? A god! We're all gonna die [:P]
Yeah, I only find the second last line illegible. Everything else seems pretty normal to me.

*starts practicing writing like sangi*
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