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Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 14 Nov 2017 03:19
by elemtilas
lsd wrote: 13 Nov 2017 17:04 I wonder if, like for the endangered languages, conlangs is a cure...
Do you have any cursive scripts added to your print for your conlangs...
Can you produce comparative examples...
There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.

For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 14 Nov 2017 08:49
by Znex
I was taught cursive when I was younger, but I never ended up using it. But it seems somewhere in high school and onwards I've innovated my own cursive (which is not particularly different or amazing or illegible) which I still use now; I've just out of need developed it without much thought. I think that's what cursive is essentially: if you have need to write with a pen often and quickly, then cursive handwriting will naturally develop.

I know for instance Hebrew cursive is a thing nowadays, although the letters themselves are not linked together in either standard Hebrew block lettering or cursive; Hebrew cursive is curvy and abbreviated Hebrew lettering.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 14 Nov 2017 17:27
by lsd
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.
With the Talarian we are almost to make a link between cuneiform writing and Chinese writing ... I did not notice their proximity ...
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.
With Avantimannish the link is more common on a runic style and a cycillic cursive style...

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 15 Nov 2017 01:56
by elemtilas
lsd wrote: 14 Nov 2017 17:27
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 For Talarian, apart from the usual block hand, you can see an example of chancery "ocean waves hand" and a cursive cuneiform here.
With the Talarian we are almost to make a link between cuneiform writing and Chinese writing ... I did not notice their proximity ...
The visual is quite intentional. Cuneiform painted with delicate brush strokes on bark paper.
lsd wrote: 14 Nov 2017 17:27
elemtilas wrote: 14 Nov 2017 03:19 There's an example of Avantimannish running hand runic here.
With Avantimannish the link is more common on a runic style and a cycillic cursive style...
Cyrillic connexion is unintentional though there are clear similarities.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 15 Nov 2017 14:43
by clawgrip
lsd wrote: 13 Nov 2017 17:04Do you have any cursive scripts added to your print for your conlangs...
Can you produce comparative examples...
I have a few:

Uyendur Cursive is so different from Classical Uyendur script that they may as well be different scripts:
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Gosudondiul, a relative of Uyendur script, is also cursive, though it has no non-cursive version (the one it evolved from is extinct). I have not created the language for this script yet, so I am just writing the same Uyendur text:
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Domun has a cursive version (the middle column is the standard form):
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Qgam Dzwo also has a Chinesey cursive style:
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Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 15 Nov 2017 18:52
by lsd
Uyendur and Gosudondiul are very cursive writing...
Domun and Qgam Dzwo are more block letters... (and I can not help but lean my head to read them horizontally...)

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 15 Nov 2017 19:25
by KaiTheHomoSapien
I have very neat printing, so I don't like to use cursive because it never looks as nice as my printing. That said, I do seem to use cursive for in-class essays (it's not required at my school, but it's recommended). So I guess I have found some uses for it :)

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 15 Nov 2017 23:40
by clawgrip
lsd wrote: 15 Nov 2017 18:52 (and I can not help but lean my head to read them horizontally...)
You said this the last time I posted a vertical conscript. I guess you are just not particularly used to vertical writing in general.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 16 Nov 2017 01:48
by Thrice Xandvii
I'm a fan of Qgam Dzwo, have you posted about it before?

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 16 Nov 2017 09:29
by clawgrip
It's a language I've only used on CWS. It's actually written in two scripts: the traditional alphabetic one here, which is a minority script, and an imported logographic script, which is the primary script. But due to the foibles of collaboration, the logographic script is getting revamped and so I can't really use it at this point. Maybe I should write about it somewhere around here later on. Anyway, this is getting off topic.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 16 Nov 2017 22:03
by Alessio
Sorry it's so big, I have no idea how to make it smaller.

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Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 17 Nov 2017 06:45
by Thrice Xandvii
Easiest way would be to open it in Paint and simply adjust the sizing to something a bit smaller. Elsewise, I would usually suggest you throw it in a spoiler... but that still isn't working so far as I know.
Spoiler:
Testing.
Edit: Nope it isn't.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 17 Nov 2017 19:12
by lsd
clawgrip wrote: 15 Nov 2017 23:40 You said this the last time I posted a vertical conscript. I guess you are just not particularly used to vertical writing in general.
This is not the case for all the vertical scripts that I examine, it is certainly due to a certain dissymmetry, related to the direction of the writing, like a cursive ... Whereas for example the Chinese is very balanced and does not seem linked to a writing path ...

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 03:17
by sangi39
Spoiler:
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Well I said I'd include some of my handwriting, and just in case:
sangi39 wrote:If I try to write neatly, and take my time, then my handwriting looks like this (especially if I write for other people)

However if I write quickly and just let my hand move a little faster, like I'm in a rush, then my writing is awful.

[NOTE WRITING]

(I also have a note form that looks like this.)

Sometimes, if I'm writing for muself, I'll trans-ition into a complete mess by the end.

(I can only just about read this, trust me.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 03:18
by sangi39
Thrice Xandvii wrote: 17 Nov 2017 06:45 Easiest way would be to open it in Paint and simply adjust the sizing to something a bit smaller. Elsewise, I would usually suggest you throw it in a spoiler... but that still isn't working so far as I know.
Spoiler:
Testing.
Edit: Nope it isn't.
The Spoiler function is working for me now [:)] You said "testing".

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 03:23
by DesEsseintes
I like your handwriting sangi [:)]

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
by sangi39
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 04:12
by DesEsseintes
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 04:26
by sangi39
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:12
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.
Even the unreadable forms? A god! We're all gonna die [:P]

Re: RIP cursive handwriting..

Posted: 20 Nov 2017 04:36
by DesEsseintes
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:26
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 04:12
sangi39 wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:35
DesEsseintes wrote: 20 Nov 2017 03:23 I like your handwriting sangi [:)]
Which version? [:P]
All of them. And I’m not being sarcastic or anything; I think your handwriting is cool.
Even the unreadable forms? A god! We're all gonna die [:P]
Yeah, I only find the second last line illegible. Everything else seems pretty normal to me.

*starts practicing writing like sangi*