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Where is Gandalf? For I much desire to speak with him
For is an independent clause. It can be separated as a sentence.
For is an independent clause. It can be separated as a sentence.
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qwed117 wrote:Where is Gandalf? For I much desire to speak with him
Yes.qwed117 wrote:It can be separated as a sentence.
No.qwed117 wrote:For is an independent clause.
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eldin raigmore wrote:qwed117 wrote:Where is Gandalf? For I much desire to speak with himqwed117 wrote:For is an independent clause.
No.
You know what I mean. "For" sets up an independent clause.
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I agree with qwed's solution, but if you want to suggest a shorter pause, the version with a comma and a period will work, too. It's clear that "Where is Gandalf" is a question, so there's no ambiguity, even without a question mark.
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This makes sense. Thanks!Dormouse559 wrote:I agree with qwed's solution, but if you want to suggest a shorter pause, the version with a comma and a period will work, too. It's clear that "Where is Gandalf" is a question, so there's no ambiguity, even without a question mark.
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One of the reasons that I like Spanish.
You can do things like: I really like Shannon, ¿where is she? Which might have made the above example less of an issue.
You can do things like: I really like Shannon, ¿where is she? Which might have made the above example less of an issue.
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Both of which may be found together on this pageKaiTheHomoSapien wrote:Ah yes, biáng. Love that one. It needs to be added to the font!
I love 齉 personally (nàng, meaning "snuffling, speaking with a blocked nose", sounds like onomatopoeia?), and this one is in unicode.
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Uh oh, you caught meLao Kou wrote:Both of which may be found together on this pageKaiTheHomoSapien wrote:Ah yes, biáng. Love that one. It needs to be added to the font!
I love 齉 personally (nàng, meaning "snuffling, speaking with a blocked nose", sounds like onomatopoeia?), and this one is in unicode.
Yes, I remember finding that page years ago from Googling "most complex Chinese character" (though I don't only like the complex ones, but some of them, like nàng, have a special beauty to them). Maybe a new dictionary needs to come out, subtitled: "from yī to biáng".
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Are there languages that do not possess any rounded vowels in their inventories but do include back vowels? If so, do they usually pop up on allophony? Are there any where they don't even appear there?
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Alawa, Jaqaru, Nimboran, and Nunggubuyu, do not have any rounded vowels.Thrice Xandvii wrote:Are there languages that do not possess any rounded vowels in their inventories but do include back vowels?.... (plus questions I can't answer)....
Alawa has one back vowel, a near-close back unrounded vowel.
Jaqaru has one back vowel, a close back unrounded vowel.
Nimboran has two back vowels, a close back unrounded vowel and a mid back unrounded vowel.
Nunggubuyu has one back vowel, a near-close back unrounded vowel.
All that according to UPSID Sound Selection.
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There seems to be a paucity of information on those, but thanks!
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I think there is a free source on Nimboran, a book by AnceauxPDF. The problem is that we do not really know if this is unrounded vowels or Japanese-style compressed rounded vowels.
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There's also Matsés: on the grammar pile the author is pretty clear that there's no rounding in the language, though confusingly they opt to use the rounded sybols for the back vowels, presumably for reasons of diacritical economy. (incidentally this means that the language contrasts /i ɨ ɯ/ but has no /u/).
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Is there any language written with the Romance alphabet whit a letter z with a hook below it, like there is <ş> in Turkish and Romanian.
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Middle High German tailed z actually looks more like ⟨ʒ⟩.Omzinesý wrote:Is there any language written with the Romance alphabet whit a letter z with a hook below it, like there is <ş> in Turkish and Romanian.
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Also isn't that just the shape of the letter z? I assumed Omzinesý wanted a language that contrasted z and z̧
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The Middle High German example might not be accurate, since, again according to Wikipedia, it wasn't used in the writing of Middle High German at the time it was actually spoken, and the use of <z> vs. <ȥ> (z-hook, different from z-cedilla <z̧>) is a modern development, with the latter indicating /s/ (from earlier /t/ undergoing Phase 1 of the HGCS) and the former representing /ts/ (from earlier /t/ undergoing Phase 2 of the HGCS). In original Middle High German texts, <ȥ> appears as either <z> or <s>.
Annoyingly, I've not been able to find any examples of z-cedilla being used at all in languages that use the Latin alphabet. The only real examples I've found are from French websites linking to the Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British Official Use, which establishes "standard names for places outside the UK, for the use of the British government", where it's used to transcribe <ظ> in Arabic, Balochi, Pashto, Urdu and Persian, which you can find here.
Annoyingly, I've not been able to find any examples of z-cedilla being used at all in languages that use the Latin alphabet. The only real examples I've found are from French websites linking to the Permanent Committee on Geographical Names for British Official Use, which establishes "standard names for places outside the UK, for the use of the British government", where it's used to transcribe <ظ> in Arabic, Balochi, Pashto, Urdu and Persian, which you can find here.
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All links can be posted here, you just have to stick it in a converter first to get it in hex/URL code first: like when you see %40, etc. in URLs.Axiem wrote:Wikipedia mentions Middle High German. I can't, however, link to the exact Wikipedia page because phpBB can't handle it.
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Base: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ȥ
Attempt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%A4
As link.
....that only took a half-dozen attempts. But it's working!
Attempt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C8%A4
As link.
....that only took a half-dozen attempts. But it's working!