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PostPosted: Sun 01 Jul 2012, 18:19 
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:rus: :nor: Spasibo på ette!


Anybody doing anything with Moja på Tvoja ~ Russenorsk?
I searched the Norroent and found ekki.


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Jul 2012, 00:27 
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Fixed it! I took this day and constructed a font that works with my keyboard so that I can write small haceks over the letters that have palatalization. That or you can add a little extra string after the consonant that also shows palatalization. I think it looks good [:)]
Sorry Aszev, that program recoured another program I didn't have and to download that program my computer needed something and......, well it didn't work, but thanks anyway for trying to help, it is appreciated
I also took the opportunity to add a letter that shows a ɕ (voiceless alveolo-palatal sibilant, I believe) with a single letter, that's also great, no need for those ambiguous diagraphs anymore!

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PostPosted: Mon 09 Jul 2012, 21:35 
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How would the tripartite alignment occur?
Passives often create ergative systems, but I don't see any reason why transitive clauses would drop out the unmarked case.
Of course there are not much data because there are only a few tripartite languages, but how could it happen?


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PostPosted: Tue 10 Jul 2012, 04:09 
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Omzinesý wrote:
How would the tripartite alignment occur?
Passives often create ergative systems, but I don't see any reason why transitive clauses would drop out the unmarked case.
Of course there are not much data because there are only a few tripartite languages, but how could it happen?

I think this would be most likely when the nominative/absolutive case is marked in some way. If that marking gets dropped on intransitive subjects, you would then have a tripartite system.


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 17:00 
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Are there any languages that either doesn't have demonstratives or where demonstratives are an open class?


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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 20:27 
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Can someone give me a reference of a Fluid-S language, so I can figure out how it works?

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 21:21 
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thaen wrote:
Can someone give me a reference of a Fluid-S language, so I can figure out how it works?

I think Guarani is Fluid-S, although unfortuinately I don't have any more info. If you want a more documented example, look at the conlang Old Albic.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 22:08 
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Thanks! I will now work on my active-stative lang. Look for it in the next week or so.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 22:19 
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thaen wrote:
Thanks! I will now work on my active-stative lang. Look for it in the next week or so.

I will. They're pretty epic, eh?

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 22:38 
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Yep.

EDIT:: Also, does anyone know how many languages have a limitation of what cases can be applied to a noun based on its class? If it is something several natlangs do, then I'm gonna steal it.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 22:48 
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thaen wrote:
Yep.

EDIT:: Also, does anyone know how many languages have a limitation of what cases can be applied to a noun based on its class? If it is something several natlangs do, then I'm gonna steal it.

I think that some Algonquian languages prohibit inanimates from being subjects.

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PostPosted: Thu 12 Jul 2012, 23:02 
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Imma do it! [}:D]

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PostPosted: Fri 13 Jul 2012, 12:52 
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thaen wrote:
Yep.

EDIT:: Also, does anyone know how many languages have a limitation of what cases can be applied to a noun based on its class? If it is something several natlangs do, then I'm gonna steal it.


By "case", one can mean either (1) overt case-marking, or (2) the thematic roles or relations that those case-markers expresses.

Assuming we are talking about case in the sense of (2), there are some restrictions that I find plausible.

As already noted, in some languages only animate beings can be agents. Other roles that may be plausibly reserved for animates include recipients and company (typically expressed by the dative and comitative cases).

On the other hand, instrument is a role that may be reserved for inanimates.

You may also consider having a distinction when it comes to direct objects - that only inanimates can be "true" patients, and animates must be treated as some kind if indirect object (for example, they must take some preposition, or a dative or some case other than the accusative/absolutive). The underlying thought is that you cannot directly control the behaviour of a being with a mind and a will of its own; you can only indirectly influence them.

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 01:39 
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Are there any natural languages with central semi-vowels - /ɨ̯/ or /ʉ̯/? (Those would be somewhere in between the front /j ɥ/ and the back /ɰ w/.)

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 02:26 
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http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/W#Somali

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionar ... n_template

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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 05:32 
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Old Tupi, and maybe other Tupi-Guarani languages, have /ɨ̯/


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PostPosted: Sat 14 Jul 2012, 15:41 
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Nice [:)] I also recalled English may have ʉ̯ as part of a diphthong.

I was thinking that some dialects of Wateu should have a central approximant as a non-syllabic segment in onset position.

(Btw concerning Marshallese, it doesn't seem like /ɨ̯/ ever surfaces as [ɨ̯])

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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 01:48 
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Are there any of the really old proto languages that had articles?


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PostPosted: Sun 15 Jul 2012, 04:26 
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arilando wrote:
Are there any of the really old proto languages that had articles?


Proto-Semitic.

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PostPosted: Tue 17 Jul 2012, 22:50 
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Are a pharyngeal stop possible?


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