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PostPosted: Tue 02 Nov 2010, 16:01 
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You mean consonant mutation?

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Nov 2010, 16:04 
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MrKrov wrote:

That's the word for it. Thank you for the links.

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PostPosted: Thu 04 Nov 2010, 02:45 
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Don't forget ablaut, umlaut etc

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PostPosted: Sat 06 Nov 2010, 06:58 
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In English, ablaut is used to distinguish tenses in some words, or plurals.

And consonants are mutated distinguishing nouns and verbs.

Examples:

sing - sang - sung
/siŋ/ - /sæŋ/ - /sʌŋ/

mouse (singular) - mice (plural)
/maʊs/ - /maɪs/

breath (n) - breathe (v) (voicing of consonant)

/brɛθ/ - /briːð/

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 06:10 
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Which language is this?

ލޭގެ ތެރެއަށްދޫކުރާ ހޯރމޯން އެކެވެ. މިއީ އަމިނޯ އެސިޑް ތައިރޯސީން

I saw it on Wikipedia under available translations. I am really liking the script. Which language?


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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 06:22 
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Dhivehi. How did you miss the screen tip?

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PostPosted: Sun 07 Nov 2010, 06:42 
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MrKrov wrote:
Dhivehi. How did you miss the screen tip?

Thanks!
I wasn't really paying attention to it. I just clicked it to go look more at it.


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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 03:03 
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Is there any good reason why the IPA doesn't show the palatal ejective? I notice Krov is using said phoneme in a lang, but I don't know of any natlangs that use it and am unsure if there is a reason why it would not be in the IPA. any help?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 03:48 
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Found you one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nez_Perce_language

You may as well ask why there's no retroflex one or a dental one, or any fricative ones even tho those exist too.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 03:52 
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I suppose I may get more luck here, is it more likely for /T/ (and its voiced counterpart) to come from a split with /s/ or a conditional lenition of /t/?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 04:43 
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From /t/ would most likely depend if the other plosives are leniting. Otherwise, from /s/ and ɡet yourself a new /s/ from whereever.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 06:20 
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MrKrov wrote:
Found you one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nez_Perce_language

You may as well ask why there's no retroflex one or a dental one, or any fricative ones even tho those exist too.


Thanks Krov. Can you direct me to where I can find some of the other natlangs that have the ejectives you mention?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 06:44 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retroflex_ejective
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwich'in_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dental_ejective
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahalo_language

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alveolar_e ... _fricative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlingit_language

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 06:48 
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Thanks a ton.

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 08:51 
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At one time, I found a website with audio samples of ~40 languages. Now I don't remember what it was called, just that the speakers were telling a story.

Does anyone know of any website like that?

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PostPosted: Wed 10 Nov 2010, 19:51 
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Hmmm, I only know about a website with recordings in 5930 languages....

sorry.

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http://globalrecordings.net/

(It's some Christian missionary site, regardless of what you think of proselytizing Christians, they still have recordings in loads and loads and loads of languages.)


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PostPosted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 02:00 
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Is there any language distinguishing plain vowels, long vowels, pharyngealized short vowels and pharyngealized long vowels?

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 02:17 
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Apparently so:
http://sinica.academia.edu/JonathanEvan ... GYAN_QIANG

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 06:34 
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Wanderer wrote:
Hmmm, I only know about a website with recordings in 5930 languages....

sorry.

:mrgreen:

http://globalrecordings.net/

(It's some Christian missionary site, regardless of what you think of proselytizing Christians, they still have recordings in loads and loads and loads of languages.)

Danke.
Not quite the same, but helpful nonetheless.

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PostPosted: Thu 11 Nov 2010, 11:42 
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MrKrov wrote:
Thanks. Also, using UPSID I could find a couple references about such a distinction.

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