Taller and tallest!
Re: Taller and tallest!
Yélian:
Te rat lotatbit.
Te rat lota-t-bit.
[tɛ rat 'lo:tatbət]
He I-OBJ big-COMP-be-3SG.
He is taller than me.
Note that in Yélian balia (to be) can work without prepositions in comparisons.
Te bit an'iyialotat.
Te bit an'-iyi-a-lota-t.
He be-3SG ANIM-child-SUP-big-COMP.
He is the tallest child.
Te rat lotatbit.
Te rat lota-t-bit.
[tɛ rat 'lo:tatbət]
He I-OBJ big-COMP-be-3SG.
He is taller than me.
Note that in Yélian balia (to be) can work without prepositions in comparisons.
Te bit an'iyialotat.
Te bit an'-iyi-a-lota-t.
He be-3SG ANIM-child-SUP-big-COMP.
He is the tallest child.
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Indonesian
Dia (lebih) tinggi dari-pada saya.
3.SG (more) tall from-HUM 1.SG
He is taller than me.
Dia anak yang paling tinggi.
3.SG child REL most tall.
He is the tallest child.
Dia anak yang ter-tinggi.
3.SG child REL SUP-tall
He is the tallest child.
Dia (lebih) tinggi dari-pada saya.
3.SG (more) tall from-HUM 1.SG
He is taller than me.
Dia anak yang paling tinggi.
3.SG child REL most tall.
He is the tallest child.
Dia anak yang ter-tinggi.
3.SG child REL SUP-tall
He is the tallest child.
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Øçirai:
ea' æç øç xëømэm øç maa.
(É/eays/oos/shey•oomem/oos/maah)
He is as tall as me
ea' æç xëømэmara xë'eønu maa.
(É/eays/shey•oomem•arah/maah)
He is taller than me
ea' æç xëea' xëømэmaçxë keæmэdi.
(É/eays/sheyé/shey•oomem•asshey/keh•eay•meh•dee)
He is the tallest child
ea' æç øç xëømэm øç maa.
(É/eays/oos/shey•oomem/oos/maah)
He is as tall as me
ea' æç xëømэmara xë'eønu maa.
(É/eays/shey•oomem•arah/maah)
He is taller than me
ea' æç xëea' xëømэmaçxë keæmэdi.
(É/eays/sheyé/shey•oomem•asshey/keh•eay•meh•dee)
He is the tallest child
chïsa éiål itk tâé.
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Daramû siqaʻiri.
[ˈdæræ̃muː ˈseqæʔeri]
dara=mû siqaʻiri
3SG.GEN=1SG.LAT height
He is as tall as me.
Şumâmu duwa siqaʻirîqqa.
[ˈʃõmɑ̃ːmu ˈdowɑ ˈseqæʔeriːqːæ]
şumâ-mu duwa siqaʻiri-iqqa
exceed-1SG.ACC 3SG.NOM height-ADV
He is taller than me.
Şumâ duwa janpawamga siqaʻirîqqa.
[ˈʃõmɑː ˈdowɑ ˈʒɑ̃npɑwɑ̃mŋɑ seqæʔeriːqːæ]
şumâ duwa janpawa<m>g siqaʻiri-iqqa
exceed 3SG.NOM child<ACC> height-ADV
He is the tallest child. / He is taller than the child. / He is taller than the children.
[ˈdæræ̃muː ˈseqæʔeri]
dara=mû siqaʻiri
3SG.GEN=1SG.LAT height
He is as tall as me.
Şumâmu duwa siqaʻirîqqa.
[ˈʃõmɑ̃ːmu ˈdowɑ ˈseqæʔeriːqːæ]
şumâ-mu duwa siqaʻiri-iqqa
exceed-1SG.ACC 3SG.NOM height-ADV
He is taller than me.
Şumâ duwa janpawamga siqaʻirîqqa.
[ˈʃõmɑː ˈdowɑ ˈʒɑ̃npɑwɑ̃mŋɑ seqæʔeriːqːæ]
şumâ duwa janpawa<m>g siqaʻiri-iqqa
exceed 3SG.NOM child<ACC> height-ADV
He is the tallest child. / He is taller than the child. / He is taller than the children.
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Tirina:
Ye tasorned de ahu.
ye tasorn-ed de ahu
3SG.MASC tall-MASC like 1SG.FEM
He is as tall as me.
Ye tasornanared yai ha.
ye tasorn-anar-ed yai ha
3SG.MASC tall-INT-MASC than 1SG.FEM
He is taller than me.
Ye tasornatoed yai do'a.
ye tasorn-ato-ed yai do'a
3SG.MASC tall-INT-MASC than child
He is the tallest child. / He is significantly taller than the child. / He is significantly taller than the children.
Ye tasorned de ahu.
ye tasorn-ed de ahu
3SG.MASC tall-MASC like 1SG.FEM
He is as tall as me.
Ye tasornanared yai ha.
ye tasorn-anar-ed yai ha
3SG.MASC tall-INT-MASC than 1SG.FEM
He is taller than me.
Ye tasornatoed yai do'a.
ye tasorn-ato-ed yai do'a
3SG.MASC tall-INT-MASC than child
He is the tallest child. / He is significantly taller than the child. / He is significantly taller than the children.
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Finally, somewhere on the CBB I can parade Proto-Mets' in the state that it's in now! (hi from the ZBB)
Proto-Mets':
• Txo makaano' te p'e.
[t͡ʃo maka:noʔ tʲe pʼe]
3.SG COMP-sky-ADJZ COMP 1.SG
He is taller than me.
• Txo wi' makaano' waal!
[t͡ʃo wiʔ maka:noʔ wa:l]
3.SG many COMP-sky-ADJZ child
He is the tallest child.
Proto-Mets':
• Txo makaano' te p'e.
[t͡ʃo maka:noʔ tʲe pʼe]
3.SG COMP-sky-ADJZ COMP 1.SG
He is taller than me.
• Txo wi' makaano' waal!
[t͡ʃo wiʔ maka:noʔ wa:l]
3.SG many COMP-sky-ADJZ child
He is the tallest child.
Mets | Ttɯŋjṹol
Re: Taller and tallest!
Welcome!
By the way, Proto-Mets’ looks quite Mayan.
By the way, Proto-Mets’ looks quite Mayan.
Re: Taller and tallest!
Thanks! That's the look and feel I was going forClick wrote:Welcome!
By the way, Proto-Mets’ looks quite Mayan.
Mets | Ttɯŋjṹol
Re: Taller and tallest!
Yay, my first translation post here!
Laefêvëši:
Jâ (šán) dǿisás ósan.
[ˈjau̯ (ˈʃaːn) ˈdøːisi ˈoːsan]
jâ (šán) dǿis=ás ós-an
3SG (as) high.QUAL=be.3SG.PRS 1SG-EQU
He is as tall as me.
Jâ dǿiskás ósan.
[ˈjau̯ ˈdøːiskaːs ˈoːsan]
jâ dǿisk=ás ós-an
3SG high.CMP=be.3SG.PRS 1SG-EQU
He is taller than me.
Jâ dǿihkás níor.
[ˈjau̯ ˈdøːixkaːs ˈniːoɾ]
jâ dǿihk=ás níor
3SG high.SPR=be.3SG.PRS child
He is the tallest child.
Laefêvëši:
Jâ (šán) dǿisás ósan.
[ˈjau̯ (ˈʃaːn) ˈdøːisi ˈoːsan]
jâ (šán) dǿis=ás ós-an
3SG (as) high.QUAL=be.3SG.PRS 1SG-EQU
He is as tall as me.
Jâ dǿiskás ósan.
[ˈjau̯ ˈdøːiskaːs ˈoːsan]
jâ dǿisk=ás ós-an
3SG high.CMP=be.3SG.PRS 1SG-EQU
He is taller than me.
Jâ dǿihkás níor.
[ˈjau̯ ˈdøːixkaːs ˈniːoɾ]
jâ dǿihk=ás níor
3SG high.SPR=be.3SG.PRS child
He is the tallest child.
The whole world is my garden - I have created it and I rule it. The heavens envy me, and the gods stand before me humble.
Hūmantit kuēte esti kirītu-met – ūg apēn harmi samnāntā nu ūg apān ēlhami. Nēbetar mi arsanti nu dēvei istahantar gengei par amāt.
Hūmantit kuēte esti kirītu-met – ūg apēn harmi samnāntā nu ūg apān ēlhami. Nēbetar mi arsanti nu dēvei istahantar gengei par amāt.
Re: Taller and tallest!
NiijerjOssicone wrote:
He is taller than me.
He is the tallest child.
Il i lausaltàr qu'io
[il i laʊ̯s.al.tar ki.o]
He is more tall than me
Il i li lausaltàr fii
[il i li laʊ̯s.al.tar fi]
He is the more tall child
Re: Taller and tallest!
Ainu
Ne aynu enakkari kewerupne.
ne aynu en-akkari kewerupne
that person 1so-with.respect.to be.tall
"That person is taller than me"
(In Aynu the 3rd person personal pronoun is practically never used and it is either omitted or substituted by a noun or noun phrase)
Ne po, po otta iyotta kewerupne po ne.
ne po po or-ta iyotta kewerupne po ne
that child child place-in the.most be.tall child COP
"That child is the tallest (child)"
It must be said that this construction expressing the superlative relative made by a combination of otta and iyotta is almost never seen in the language. As a matter of fact, in the texts I've been translating I don't remember I have ever seen such a construction. To be sure I had to ask an Aynu specialist I know who provided this possible literal translation. Iyotta does have a meaning which implies a comparison with some other constituents but these terms of comparison appears as an overt argument very rarely
1so - first person singular object affix
COP - copula
Lözusöteli
Þiś är enśteri kham par.
þiś är enś-ter-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. tall-COMP-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is taller than me"
Þiś är utos enśi kham par.
þiś är utos enś-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. same.as tall-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is as tall as I am"
Þiś är etton enśi kham par.
þiś är etton enś-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. less tall-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is less tall than me"
Þiś är mempælidi enśtati.
þiś är mempæl-i-di enś-tat-i
he.NOM be.3s.pres. child-NOMsm-DET.NOMsm tall-SUP-NOMsm
"He is the tallest child"
Þiś är enśtati.
þiś är enś-tat-i
he.NOM be.3s.pres. tall-SUP-NOMsm
"He is tallest"
NOM - nominative
s - singular
m - masculine
COMP - comparative
PRE1 - prepositive 1
SUP - superlative
DET - determiner
Ne aynu enakkari kewerupne.
ne aynu en-akkari kewerupne
that person 1so-with.respect.to be.tall
"That person is taller than me"
(In Aynu the 3rd person personal pronoun is practically never used and it is either omitted or substituted by a noun or noun phrase)
Ne po, po otta iyotta kewerupne po ne.
ne po po or-ta iyotta kewerupne po ne
that child child place-in the.most be.tall child COP
"That child is the tallest (child)"
It must be said that this construction expressing the superlative relative made by a combination of otta and iyotta is almost never seen in the language. As a matter of fact, in the texts I've been translating I don't remember I have ever seen such a construction. To be sure I had to ask an Aynu specialist I know who provided this possible literal translation. Iyotta does have a meaning which implies a comparison with some other constituents but these terms of comparison appears as an overt argument very rarely
1so - first person singular object affix
COP - copula
Lözusöteli
Þiś är enśteri kham par.
þiś är enś-ter-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. tall-COMP-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is taller than me"
Þiś är utos enśi kham par.
þiś är utos enś-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. same.as tall-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is as tall as I am"
Þiś är etton enśi kham par.
þiś är etton enś-i kham par
he.NOM be.3s.pres. less tall-NOMsm than I.PRE1s
"He is less tall than me"
Þiś är mempælidi enśtati.
þiś är mempæl-i-di enś-tat-i
he.NOM be.3s.pres. child-NOMsm-DET.NOMsm tall-SUP-NOMsm
"He is the tallest child"
Þiś är enśtati.
þiś är enś-tat-i
he.NOM be.3s.pres. tall-SUP-NOMsm
"He is tallest"
NOM - nominative
s - singular
m - masculine
COMP - comparative
PRE1 - prepositive 1
SUP - superlative
DET - determiner
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Re: Taller and tallest!
Sevôn
Êlda ra mi ino.
êld-a r-a mi in-o
tall-be.3SG 3SG-NOM as 1SG-PREP
"He is tall as me."
Êldeiva (ra) mi ino.
êld-eiv-a r-a mi in-o
tall-COMP-be.3SG 3SG-NOM than 1SG-PREP
"He is taller than me."
Êldeiva ra mi opêso xaunauthi.
êld-eiv-a r-a mi o-pês-o xaun-authi
tall-COMP-be.3SG 3SG-NOM than PREP-other-PL[all] child-PREP.PL[all]
"He is taller than all other children."
A real superlative does not exist in Sevôn.
Êlda ra mi ino.
êld-a r-a mi in-o
tall-be.3SG 3SG-NOM as 1SG-PREP
"He is tall as me."
Êldeiva (ra) mi ino.
êld-eiv-a r-a mi in-o
tall-COMP-be.3SG 3SG-NOM than 1SG-PREP
"He is taller than me."
Êldeiva ra mi opêso xaunauthi.
êld-eiv-a r-a mi o-pês-o xaun-authi
tall-COMP-be.3SG 3SG-NOM than PREP-other-PL[all] child-PREP.PL[all]
"He is taller than all other children."
A real superlative does not exist in Sevôn.
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Pazmat
Pazmat does not have suffixes for this, instead using the adjective in the locative:
Jā jhaye zudāva
3S.DEF.NOM 1S.DAT tall.ATHEM-LOC
He is taller than me
To express the superlative Pazmat literally just says "Compared to all X's, Y is Z'er"):
Jā jinbnīyyīm urrīyyīm zudāva
3S.DEF.NOM child-DEF.PL-DAT all.AR-DEF.PL.DAT tall.ATHEM-LOC
He is the tallest child.
You could drop off the first too words and just say urrīyyīm zudāva too.
Pazmat does not have suffixes for this, instead using the adjective in the locative:
Jā jhaye zudāva
3S.DEF.NOM 1S.DAT tall.ATHEM-LOC
He is taller than me
To express the superlative Pazmat literally just says "Compared to all X's, Y is Z'er"):
Jā jinbnīyyīm urrīyyīm zudāva
3S.DEF.NOM child-DEF.PL-DAT all.AR-DEF.PL.DAT tall.ATHEM-LOC
He is the tallest child.
You could drop off the first too words and just say urrīyyīm zudāva too.
Nūdenku waga honji ma naku honyasi ne ika-ika ichamase!
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S
female-appearance=despite boy-voice=PAT hold boy-youth=TOP very be.cute-3PL
Honyasi zō honyasi ma naidasu.
boy-youth=AGT boy-youth=PAT love.romantically-3S
Re: Taller and tallest!
Is ist auhuma mis.
He is taller than me.
he be.3sg.prs high.comp I.dat
Is ist þata auhumist barn.
He is the tallest child.
he be.3sg.prs the high.superlative child
I don't know what word Gothic used for "tall" as in human height, so I'm just gonna go with the most obvious word.
Re: Taller and tallest!
Ngolu:
Hue jagi ja, (lo) nia na.
be.more be.tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC (ADV) be.less NOM.1s.MASC
He's taller than me. (Literally: He's more tall, (while) I'm less.)
Hue jagi ja, (lo) nia iju va(s azo).
be.more be.tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC (ADV) be.less NOM.3s.DEF.ANIM.REL be.all (be.other)
He's the tallest. / He's taller than all the others. (Literally: He's more tall, (while) all the others are less.)
Hueva jagi ja.
be.more-all tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC
He's the tallest.
Hue jagi ja, (lo) nia na.
be.more be.tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC (ADV) be.less NOM.1s.MASC
He's taller than me. (Literally: He's more tall, (while) I'm less.)
Hue jagi ja, (lo) nia iju va(s azo).
be.more be.tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC (ADV) be.less NOM.3s.DEF.ANIM.REL be.all (be.other)
He's the tallest. / He's taller than all the others. (Literally: He's more tall, (while) all the others are less.)
Hueva jagi ja.
be.more-all tall NOM.3s.DEF.MASC
He's the tallest.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
________
MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
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Chagen wrote:Jā
3S.DEF.NOM
He
Imralu wrote:ja
NOM.3s.DEF.MASC
He
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
________
MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
________
MY MUSIC | MY PLANTS
Re: Taller and tallest!
Xing
Ana calla mina illi.
/ana t͡ʃʰalːa mina ilːi/
[aːnɐ tʃʰalːɐ miːnɐ ilːɪ]
3s tall 1s short
'He is taller than me.'
Ana calla enne gani illi.
/ana t͡ʃalːa enːe kani ilːi/
[aːnɐ tʃʰalːɐ enːɛ kaːnɪ ilːɪ]
3s tall other child short
'He is the tallest child.'
Ana e mina calla xime
/ana e mina t͡ʃʰalːa ʃime/
[aːɐ eː miːnɐ t͡ʃʰalːɐ ʃiːmɛ]
3s and 1s tall equal
'He is as tall as me.'
Ana calla mina illi.
/ana t͡ʃʰalːa mina ilːi/
[aːnɐ tʃʰalːɐ miːnɐ ilːɪ]
3s tall 1s short
'He is taller than me.'
Ana calla enne gani illi.
/ana t͡ʃalːa enːe kani ilːi/
[aːnɐ tʃʰalːɐ enːɛ kaːnɪ ilːɪ]
3s tall other child short
'He is the tallest child.'
Ana e mina calla xime
/ana e mina t͡ʃʰalːa ʃime/
[aːɐ eː miːnɐ t͡ʃʰalːɐ ʃiːmɛ]
3s and 1s tall equal
'He is as tall as me.'
Re: Taller and tallest!
Caelian
Tot Raror lüdvot ës byü.
[tʰɔt raˈrɔɾ lydˈvɔt əʃ bʲy]
3SG_MASC.NOM 1SG.EQU big.MASC COMP COP.3SG>1SG
He is taller than me.
Tot assel lüdulvot ës byäis. / Tot assel lüdënvot ëbol byäis.
[tʰɔt aˈʃɛl lydʊlˈvɔt əʃ bʲæɪ̯ʃ / tʰɔt aˈʃɛl lydənˈvɔt əˈbɔl bʲæɪʃ]
3SG_MASC.NOM child.NOM big.SUP.MASC COMP COP.3SG>3SG/
3SG_MASC.NOM child.NOM big.ELL.MASC of_all COP.3SG>3SG
He is the tallest child.
The first example is a local maximum (Superlative), the second one a global maximum (Ellative)
Tot Raror lüdvot byü.
[tʰɔt raˈrɔɾ lydˈvɔt bʲy]
3SG_MASC.NOM 1SG.EQU big.MASC COP.3SG>1SG
He is as tall as me.
Tot Raror lüdvot ës byü.
[tʰɔt raˈrɔɾ lydˈvɔt əʃ bʲy]
3SG_MASC.NOM 1SG.EQU big.MASC COMP COP.3SG>1SG
He is taller than me.
Tot assel lüdulvot ës byäis. / Tot assel lüdënvot ëbol byäis.
[tʰɔt aˈʃɛl lydʊlˈvɔt əʃ bʲæɪ̯ʃ / tʰɔt aˈʃɛl lydənˈvɔt əˈbɔl bʲæɪʃ]
3SG_MASC.NOM child.NOM big.SUP.MASC COMP COP.3SG>3SG/
3SG_MASC.NOM child.NOM big.ELL.MASC of_all COP.3SG>3SG
He is the tallest child.
The first example is a local maximum (Superlative), the second one a global maximum (Ellative)
Tot Raror lüdvot byü.
[tʰɔt raˈrɔɾ lydˈvɔt bʲy]
3SG_MASC.NOM 1SG.EQU big.MASC COP.3SG>1SG
He is as tall as me.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: Taller and tallest!
Anto
Ton me mo'mo da ge'mi.
[tʰɔn mɛ ˈmɔːmɔ ta ˈkɛmiː]
3PS more big 1SG compared_to
He ist taller than me.
Ton balge mas mo'mo.
[tʰɔn ˈpalkɛ mas ˈmɔːmɔ]
3PS child most big
He is the tallest child.
Ton mo'mo da gibi.
[tʰɔn ˈmɔːmɔ ta ˈkipi]
3PS big 1SG as
He is as tall as me.
Ton me mo'mo da ge'mi.
[tʰɔn mɛ ˈmɔːmɔ ta ˈkɛmiː]
3PS more big 1SG compared_to
He ist taller than me.
Ton balge mas mo'mo.
[tʰɔn ˈpalkɛ mas ˈmɔːmɔ]
3PS child most big
He is the tallest child.
Ton mo'mo da gibi.
[tʰɔn ˈmɔːmɔ ta ˈkipi]
3PS big 1SG as
He is as tall as me.
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.
Re: Taller and tallest!
Utseech
A is gröa als wi il.
[a ɪs ˈgɹø.a aɫs wiː ɪɫ]
3SG_MASC be.3SG big.COMP than like 1SG.NOM
A is de grö nid.
[a ɪs də gɹøː niːd]
3SG_MASC be.3SG DEF.NEUT big.SUP child
A is genûo gros wi il.
[a ɪs geˈnʊ˞.ɔ gɹɔs wiː ɪɫ]
3SG_MASC be.3SG as big as 1SG
A is gröa als wi il.
[a ɪs ˈgɹø.a aɫs wiː ɪɫ]
3SG_MASC be.3SG big.COMP than like 1SG.NOM
A is de grö nid.
[a ɪs də gɹøː niːd]
3SG_MASC be.3SG DEF.NEUT big.SUP child
A is genûo gros wi il.
[a ɪs geˈnʊ˞.ɔ gɹɔs wiː ɪɫ]
3SG_MASC be.3SG as big as 1SG
Wipe the glass. This is the usual way to start, even in the days, day and night, only a happy one.