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All4Ɇn wrote:
qwed117 wrote:Well the morphemes together are roughly "half-inheritance-thief-er". I don't think this should be rather hard.
Taxes?
Why y'all tryin' be so complex? Usurpation was decently close tho.
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qwed117 wrote:I don't think this should be rather hard.
Well, you do have the answer. It certainly hasn't proven to be easy.

How hard anyone thinks it is is irrelevant, though. Does it refer to a human being?
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qwed117 wrote: Why y'all tryin' be so complex? Usurpation was decently close tho.
Because we don't have the answer?
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shimobaatar wrote:
qwed117 wrote:I don't think this should be rather hard.
Well, you do have the answer. It certainly hasn't proven to be easy.

How hard anyone thinks it is is irrelevant, though. Does it refer to a human being?
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qwed117 wrote: Why y'all tryin' be so complex? Usurpation was decently close tho.
Because we don't have the answer?
I think you're on the right track if you haven't already figured it out.

You don't jump in with the most complex way of looking at it, you have to build up in complexity, starting at the bottom, literalism, and slowly moving up to the real abstracted meaning.
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qwed117 wrote: I think you're on the right track if you haven't already figured it out.
So it does refer to a human being? I can only assume that's why you bolded what you did. In that case, does it refer to a family member?
qwed117 wrote: You don't jump in with the most complex way of looking at it, you have to build up in complexity, starting at the bottom, literalism, and slowly moving up to the real abstracted meaning.
I mean, I see your point, but I think everyone has their own idea of what "complexity" is. What one person might see as a basic, literal meaning of a word might seem complex and abstract to someone else. From my point of view, "taxes" is much less complex than "usurpation".

Anyway, there's really no point in debating this.
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shimobaatar wrote:
qwed117 wrote: I think you're on the right track if you haven't already figured it out.
So it does refer to a human being? I can only assume that's why you bolded what you did. In that case, does it refer to a family member?
qwed117 wrote: You don't jump in with the most complex way of looking at it, you have to build up in complexity, starting at the bottom, literalism, and slowly moving up to the real abstracted meaning.
I mean, I see your point, but I think everyone has their own idea of what "complexity" is. What one person might see as a basic, literal meaning of a word might seem complex and abstract to someone else. From my point of view, "taxes" is much less complex than "usurpation".
Taxes is a complex understanding of the morphemes together. Usurpation is a less complex understanding, although it does take out the important half morpheme.

It refers to a human being. I don't really think he can be considered part of a family. Blood may run through, but nobility doesnt.
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qwed117 wrote: It refers to a human being. I don't really think he can be considered part of a family. Blood may run through, but nobility doesnt.
Bastard/illegitimate child?
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qwed117 wrote: It refers to a human being. I don't really think he can be considered part of a family. Blood may run through, but nobility doesnt.
Bastard/illegitimate child?
You got it.
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Oh, cool. I'll try to post a new word as soon as possible, but I am moving back out to school next week.
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This probably won't be much of a challenge, but I don't want to keep people waiting any longer.

Language: Visigothic
Word: escúgua
IPA: [ɛʰˈkuwa]
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Does '-gu-' come from PG *w?
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qwed117 wrote:Does '-gu-' come from PG *w?
*w or *ww.
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Is it a verb?
(Also, is it *ww?)
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qwed117 wrote:Is it a verb?
(Also, is it *ww?)
No.

And, sorry, I should have been clearer. I literally meant it's either *w or *ww. Apparently the reconstruction is uncertain.
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Just to be certain, the initial is *sk, right?
Edit: Restarted my search by looking at Gothic lemmas exclusively, since I figured it wouldn't be on the Proto-Germanic mainpage. Is it mirror from *skūwô, *skuwwô?
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qwed117 wrote:Just to be certain, the initial is *sk, right?
Edit: Restarted my search by looking at Gothic lemmas exclusively, since I figured it wouldn't be on the Proto-Germanic mainpage. Is it mirror from *skūwô, *skuwwô?
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New word: frakkęmbųaneu
[ɸraʷkkɪ̃mbũːanɛu]
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Is it an adjective?
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Is frakkęm- related to English Frank/Frankish?
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Is it some form of a verb?

Is fra- from the PG verbal prefix *fra-? If so, is the second morpheme some form of *kwemaną?
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shimobaatar wrote:Is it an adjective?
No.
All4Ɇn wrote:Is frakkęm- related to English Frank/Frankish?
No
Ashtâr Balînestyâr wrote:Is it some form of a verb?

Is fra- from the PG verbal prefix *fra-? If so, is the second morpheme some form of *kwemaną?
No, no, no.

Morpheme wise, it's frakkęm-bųan-eu
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