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Did it begin with an initial/f/?

Was it a class two weak verb?
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yes to both.
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Does it come from fysian "to drive out"?
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Nope.
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Does the root vowel descend from a monophthong in OE?

Is the <s> descended from OE <s>?
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spanick wrote: 11 Jul 2018 17:33 Does the root vowel descend from a monophthong in OE?
Partially. The root vowel of the OE stem was a monophthong.
spanick wrote: 11 Jul 2018 17:33 Is the <s> descended from OE <s>?
Yes.
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Is it from OE fælsian and does it mean something like to cleanse?
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Creyeditor wrote: 11 Jul 2018 22:08 Is it from OE fælsian and does it mean something like to cleanse?
Yes and yes, good job!

If you're curious, the phonetic evolution is (showing 1-3 minor changes per step):
fæːlzian > fɛːɫziən > vɛːɫziə > vɛwzjə > vøzjə > vøʒə > vøʒ

and while "to cleanse" is still a possible use for it, it's more commonly used today to mean "to sanitize" or "to disinfect".
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So the /l/ caused vowel rounding? That's very interesting [:)]

Next word from Mánnìkà

mbə́dán/
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Is it a verb?
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shimobaatar wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:01 Is it a verb?
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Does it mean "to serve"?
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spanick wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:15 Does it mean "to serve"?
No. [cross]

to serve is /mbâtìjàn/
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Was PG stress on the ancestor of the /bə́/ syllable?
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Was /d/ voiced in Proto-Germanic?
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Herra Ratatoskr wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:45 Was PG stress on the ancestor of the /bə́/ syllable?
Yes [tick]
shimobaatar wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:49 Was /d/ voiced in Proto-Germanic?
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Creyeditor wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:51
shimobaatar wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:49 Was /d/ voiced in Proto-Germanic?
Yes [tick]
Was it *d?
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shimobaatar wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:56
Creyeditor wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:51
shimobaatar wrote: 11 Jul 2018 23:49 Was /d/ voiced in Proto-Germanic?
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Was it *d?
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Does /ᵐb/ derive from *mb?
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shimobaatar wrote: 12 Jul 2018 00:17 Does /ᵐb/ derive from *mb?
Ultimately not, no [cross]
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