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shimobaatar wrote: 16 Jun 2018 05:06 Is the whole word "embassy"?
Yes, well done!

The homophone pairs are:

framažabahchus “embassy”
framažabahtshus “ambassador’s residence”

framažabahc “foreign ministry”
framažabahts “ambassador”
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spanick wrote: 16 Jun 2018 05:19
shimobaatar wrote: 16 Jun 2018 05:06 Is the whole word "embassy"?
Yes, well done!
Awesome, I'll try to post a new word as soon as possible.
spanick wrote: 16 Jun 2018 05:19 The homophone pairs are:

framažabahchus “embassy”
framažabahtshus “ambassador’s residence”

framažabahc “foreign ministry”
framažabahts “ambassador”
Cool! Are "ambassador" and "ambassador's residence" derived from *ambahtaz?
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Oh, heck. I was guessing it was about Frampton’s Zabatt shoes.
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shimobaatar wrote: 16 Jun 2018 21:14
spanick wrote: 16 Jun 2018 05:19 The homophone pairs are:

framažabahchus “embassy”
framažabahtshus “ambassador’s residence”

framažabahc “foreign ministry”
framažabahts “ambassador”
Cool! Are "ambassador" and "ambassador's residence" derived from *ambahtaz?
Yes, they are. Abahts (masculine, first declension) is best translated as “minister” usually of a higher rank. For instance, members of parliament use that as do head of government departments/ministries, abahc (neuter, first declension). A lower ranking government official and the word for civil servants in general is either abahcaž (masculine, first declension), which is obsolescent, or abahtnik (neuter, first declension).
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spanick wrote: 17 Jun 2018 02:22 Yes, they are. Abahts (masculine, first declension) is best translated as “minister” usually of a higher rank. For instance, members of parliament use that as do head of government departments/ministries, abahc (neuter, first declension). A lower ranking government official and the word for civil servants in general is either abahcaž (masculine, first declension), which is obsolescent, or abahtnik (neuter, first declension).
Ah, got it.

Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: šaismýklaibs
IPA: /ˈʃɛːɪ̯zmaʏ̯klɛːɪ̯ps/
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shimobaatar wrote: 19 Jun 2018 22:34 Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: šaismýklaibs
IPA: /ˈʃɛːɪ̯zmaʏ̯klɛːɪ̯ps/
Is it a noun?
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spanick wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:46
shimobaatar wrote: 19 Jun 2018 22:34 Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: šaismýklaibs
IPA: /ˈʃɛːɪ̯zmaʏ̯klɛːɪ̯ps/
Is it a noun?
Yes, it is.
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shimobaatar wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:47
spanick wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:46
shimobaatar wrote: 19 Jun 2018 22:34 Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: šaismýklaibs
IPA: /ˈʃɛːɪ̯zmaʏ̯klɛːɪ̯ps/
Is it a noun?
Yes, it is.
Does it consist of 3 morphemes compounded?
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spanick wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:55
shimobaatar wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:47
spanick wrote: 20 Jun 2018 17:46
shimobaatar wrote: 19 Jun 2018 22:34 Language: Modern Königsberg Northeast Germanic
Word: šaismýklaibs
IPA: /ˈʃɛːɪ̯zmaʏ̯klɛːɪ̯ps/
Is it a noun?
Yes, it is.
Does it consist of 3 morphemes compounded?
No, it does not.
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shimobaatar wrote: 20 Jun 2018 18:05 No, it does not.
More or fewer?
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spanick wrote: 20 Jun 2018 18:17
shimobaatar wrote: 20 Jun 2018 18:05 No, it does not.
More or fewer?
There are two roots.
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Is it a plant?

:deu: *Schäßem·klee

:?: :wat:
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Lambuzhao wrote: 21 Jun 2018 00:28 Is it a plant?
No.
Lambuzhao wrote: 21 Jun 2018 00:28 :deu: *Schäßem·klee
I assume you're asking if it's cognate to that in German? I also assume you mean Klee, "clover", from Proto-Germanic *klaiwaz, but I can't find any definition for "Schäßem" anywhere online, so I don't know what you mean by that. I can say, though, that neither part of the word is descended from *klaiwaz.
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Do the sounds represented by <ai> share a common origin in PG? If so, is that origin from *ai?

Is the sound represented by <ý> the result of i-umlaut of *ū?
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spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 06:15 Do the sounds represented by <ai> share a common origin in PG? If so, is that origin from *ai?
Yes and yes.
spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 06:15 Is the sound represented by <ý> the result of i-umlaut of *ū?
Technically yes, but *ū is not Proto-Germanic.
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Are the roots separated as šaismý-klaibs?
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spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 14:47 Are the roots separated as šaismý-klaibs?
Indeed they are, although I should note that there is an inflectional suffix on each side of that hyphen as well.
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shimobaatar wrote: 21 Jun 2018 20:06
spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 14:47 Are the roots separated as šaismý-klaibs?
Indeed they are, although I should note that there is an inflectional suffix on each side of that hyphen as well.
Is the inflectional ending of klaibs nominative singular masculine?
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spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 20:09
shimobaatar wrote: 21 Jun 2018 20:06
spanick wrote: 21 Jun 2018 14:47 Are the roots separated as šaismý-klaibs?
Indeed they are, although I should note that there is an inflectional suffix on each side of that hyphen as well.
Is the inflectional ending of klaibs nominative singular masculine?
Yes, it is.
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Is the inflectional ending on the first root from the dative singular of either a PG O or U stem?

Does š derived from PG *sk?
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