shimobaatar wrote:Oh, I didn't even know Creyeditor had given a word since there was no new post to trigger a notification!spanick wrote: Sorry for the string of questions, but there's been a lack.
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Yes, in Modern English it is.spanick wrote:Is it composed of multiple morphemes?Creyeditor wrote:I'll give it a go
Just give me a few hours.Edit: Here it is:
/ɸɛ̃̌.tɨ̃̀.mə̃̌/
[ɸœ̃̌.dɨ̃̀.mə̃̌]
In case its not readable: All vowels are nasalized, the first and last one have a rising tone, the other one has a low tone.
Also just a quick warning. I might not answer immediatly.
Is it derived from a single word in Modern English (MdE)?
Is the bilabial fricative derived from MdE /f/?
Is the tone derived from loss of final consonants?
Sorry for the string of questions, but there's been a lack.
Yes.
No.
Partially.
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/p/?Creyeditor wrote:spanick wrote:Is the bilabial fricative derived from MdE /f/?
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Not in this particular word
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Does it perhaps derived from the cluster /sw/?
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Or /b/?spanick wrote:Does it perhaps derived from the cluster /sw/?
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Nospanick wrote:Does it perhaps derived from the cluster /sw/?
Yesshimobaatar wrote:Or /b/?
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Is the nasalization of every syllable due to the loss of a coda nasal in every syllable?
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If not, does it apply to all vowels?spanick wrote:Is the nasalization of every syllable due to the loss of a coda nasal in every syllable?
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Yesspanick wrote:Is the nasalization of every syllable due to the loss of a coda nasal in every syllable?
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This is why you use ogoneksCreyeditor wrote:In case its not readable:
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Were the onsets of the second and third syllables originally /d/ and /m/ respectively in Modern English?
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If not, is the [d] an intervocalic /t/?spanick wrote:Were the onsets of the second and third syllables originally /d/ and /m/ respectively in Modern English?
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GamerGeek wrote: If not, is the [d] an intervocalic /t/?
Creyeditor wrote: /ɸɛ̃̌.tɨ̃̀.mə̃̌/
[ɸœ̃̌.dɨ̃̀.mə̃̌]
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The the onsets of the second and third syllables in the future word were originally /d/ and /m/spanick wrote:Were the onsets of the second and third syllables originally /d/ and /m/ respectively in Modern English?
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-_-qwed117 wrote:GamerGeek wrote: If not, is the [d] an intervocalic /t/?Creyeditor wrote: /ɸɛ̃̌.tɨ̃̀.mə̃̌/
[ɸœ̃̌.dɨ̃̀.mə̃̌]
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To recap what we know about /ɸɛ̃̌.tɨ̃̀.mə̃̌/ [ɸœ̃̌.dɨ̃̀.mə̃̌]:
- In Modern English it was one word made up of multiple morphemes.
- The tones are partially derived from a loss of coda consonants.
- Each syllable has lost a coda nasal, resulting in nasalization.
- The three consonants were originally /b/, /d/, and /m/.
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This is correct. Here are some further hints:
- It is derived from a four syllable word in Modern English. The first syllable in MO has no nasal coda.
- The word has three non-nasal consonants in MO. The word-final consonant in MO is a /t/.
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Did the first syllable contain either a schwa or /h/ in Modern English? Was it a CV syllable?Creyeditor wrote:This is correct. Here are some further hints:
- It is derived from a four syllable word in Modern English. The first syllable in MO has no nasal coda.
- The word has three non-nasal consonants in MO. The word-final consonant in MO is a /t/.
So, its CV(C)bVNdVNmVNt?
Was the word made up of three morphemes in Modern English?
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Going off that pattern shimobaatar posted:
Is it abandonment?
Is it abandonment?
terram impūram incolāmus
hamteu un mont sug
let us live in a dirty world
hamteu un mont sug
let us live in a dirty world