There's a snake in my boot!

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There's a snake in my boot!

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:tan: Swahili:

Mna nyoka ndani ya buti langu.
m-na nyoka ndani y-a buti l-angu
18-COM snake(9) interior(9) 9-GEN boot(5) 5-GEN.1s
"there-is-inside snake interior of boot of-me"

There's a snake in my boot.
Glossing Abbreviations: COMP = comparative, C = complementiser, ACS / ICS = accessible / inaccessible, GDV = gerundive, SPEC / NSPC = specific / non-specific, AG = agent, E = entity (person, animal, thing)
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Re: There's a snake in my boot!

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:chn: Mandarin

我的靴子里有一条蛇! (simplified)
我的靴子裡有一條蛇! (traditional)
Wǒ de xuēzi li yǒu yī tiáo shé!
[wɔ˨˩ tɤ̆˦ ɕɥœ̜˥t͡sz̩̆˨ lĭ˨ joʊ̯˨˩ i˥˩ tʰjɑʊ̯˧˥ ʂɤ˧˥]
1[SG] GEN boot in have one CL snake
There's a snake in my boot!

:esp: Spanish

¡Hay una serpiente en mi bota!
[aj ˈuna seɾˈpjente em mi ˈβ̞ota]
hay un-a-Ø serpiente-Ø en mi-Ø bota-Ø
there.is.PRS.IND INDF-F-SG snake-SG in 1SG.POS-SG boot-SG

There's a snake in my boot!
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Rä’aq këmı’to ò nom’ta nä.
[ɾaɒʔ cɛmito oː nomtɒ na] or more loosely [ɾaːt cɛmitɤ oː nomta na]
be-TRANS-INDIC-FIRST snake-INTRANS-ACT-ABS in boot-INTRANS-ACT-ERG my
There is a snake in my boot!
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Re: There's a snake in my boot!

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Parlox wrote:Rä’aq këmı’to ò nom’ta nä.
[ɾaɒʔ cɛmito oː nomtɒ na] or more loosely [ɾaːt cɛmitɤ oː nomta na]
be-TRANS-INDIC-FIRST snake-INTRANS-ACT-ABS in boot-INTRANS-ACT-ERG my
There is a snake in my boot!
Which conlang is that?

:deu: German

Da ist eine Schlange in meinem Boot Stiefel!
[daː ʔɪst ˈʔaɪ̯nə ˈʃʷlaŋə ʔɪn ˈmaɪ̯nəm ˈʃtiːfl̩]
there COP.3SG INDEF.FEM.NOM snake in 1SG.POSS.MASC.DAT boot
There is a snake in my boot!

:con: Yélian

Vut ciavet tsoru pun reo galac vorder!
[vʉt‿ˈɪ̯aːʋət ˈtsoːɾu pʉn ˈre.o ˈvɔɾdəd̟]
3SG.INDEF exist-3SG snake in 1SG.POSS boot
There is a snake in my boot!
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Iyionaku wrote::deu: German

Da ist eine Schlange in meinem Boot!
[daː ʔɪst ˈʔaɪ̯nə ˈʃʷlaŋə ʔɪn ˈmaɪ̯nəm boːt]
there COP.3SG INDEF.FEM.NOM snake in 1SG.POSS.MASC.DAT boot
There is a snake in my boot!
So this is a riff on the famous hovercraft one or what? ;)

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:con: Austrian
It haus vorm in minam stivla.
it hab-s vorm-∅ in min-am stivl-a
3SG.N have-3SG snake-ACC.SG in 1SG.POSS-DAT.SG boot-DAT.SG
[tχɔzˈvɔɾ.m‿ɪn ˌmiˑnamˈsiːvla]
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Re: There's a snake in my boot!

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Rosenkohl wrote:
Iyionaku wrote::deu: German

Da ist eine Schlange in meinem Boot!
[daː ʔɪst ˈʔaɪ̯nə ˈʃʷlaŋə ʔɪn ˈmaɪ̯nəm boːt]
there COP.3SG INDEF.FEM.NOM snake in 1SG.POSS.MASC.DAT boot
There is a snake in my boot!
So this is a riff on the famous hovercraft one or what? ;)

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:con: Austrian
It haus vorm in minam stivla.
it hab-s vorm-∅ in min-am stivl-a
3SG.N have-3SG snake-ACC.SG in 1SG.POSS-DAT.SG boot-DAT.SG
[tχɔzˈvɔɾ.m‿ɪn ˌmiˑnamˈsiːvla]
Is this really a conlang, or do you mean an Austrian dialect of German? Or is it a con-accent?
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Re: There's a snake in my boot!

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Iyionaku wrote:Is this really a conlang, or do you mean an Austrian dialect of German? Or is it a con-accent?
East Germanic conlang.

Are you really not going to fix the German..? ;)
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Rosenkohl wrote:Are you really not going to fix the German..? ;)
What's wrong with the German one, though?
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You said there's a snake in your boat (/o:/), not boot (/u:/).
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Oh lord! False friend alert!

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That means it's wrong for Yélian as well. Unlike the word for boat, I don't know the one for "boot" by heart. :roll:

(You know, I saw that you were using "stivla" and thought about where that word might come from. [xD] )
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Germans sometimes loan the English word "boot" ... pronounced with /u:/
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Iyionaku wrote:
Parlox wrote:Rä’aq këmı’to ò nom’ta nä.
[ɾaɒʔ cɛmito oː nomtɒ na] or more loosely [ɾaːt cɛmitɤ oː nomta na]
be-TRANS-INDIC-FIRST snake-INTRANS-ACT-ABS in boot-INTRANS-ACT-ERG my
There is a snake in my boot!
Which conlang is that?

:deu: German

Da ist eine Schlange in meinem Boot Stiefel!
[daː ʔɪst ˈʔaɪ̯nə ˈʃʷlaŋə ʔɪn ˈmaɪ̯nəm ˈʃtiːfl̩]
there COP.3SG INDEF.FEM.NOM snake in 1SG.POSS.MASC.DAT boot
There is a snake in my boot!

:con: Yélian

Vut ciavet tsoru pun reo galac vorder!
[vʉt‿ˈɪ̯aːʋət ˈtsoːɾu pʉn ˈre.o ˈvɔɾdəd̟]
3SG.INDEF exist-3SG snake in 1SG.POSS boot
There is a snake in my boot!
A new conlang called Crımunz (pronounced kɾimɯnz).
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Image Géarthnuns:

Sü ngrhöks la chü pöriksüb steküb bö miçnakh!
INDEF snake-NOM AUX.PRES DEF boot-POST my-POST in there.be
There's a snake in my boot!

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Y 有rë un 蛇 au dans mon 長靴 ni!
Y arë un hébi au dans mon nagagoutsë ni!
[i‿ˈɑ̯ɒʁœ̈/ˈjɑ̯ɒʁœ̈ ɚ̃ ˈebi o dã mɒ̃ʊ̯̃ naˈgagʊtsœ̈ ni]
there have-PRES INDEF snake ACC in my boot LOC
There's a snake in my boot!
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:con: Ular

革鞋我在的蛇虫!
Kóthōj lăn phū tā mŏkãng!

[kɔ́tʰɔ̄j lɛ̂̄n pʰū tɛ̄ mɔ̂̄kɑ̃̀ː]
boot 1SG in FOC snake
There is a snake in my boot!
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Iyionaku wrote::chn: Mandarin

有在我的靴子里一条蛇!
Yǒu zài wǒ de xuēzi lǐ yī tiáo shé!

[ɪ̯ɔʊ̯˨˩ t͡saɪ̯˥˩ ʊ̯ɔ˨˩ tə ɕy̯e˥t͡sɹ̩ li˨˩ i˥˩ tʰɪ̯aʊ̯˨˦ ʂə˨˦]
have at 1SG POSS boot inside one CL snake
There is a snake in my boot!
I already posted a Mandarin translation above... And your translation feels a bit ungrammatical to me. Prepositional phrases such as those starting with 在 usually go before the verb, and in the cases where they are placed after the verb, they are usually the last element of the sentence (if the verb has an object, it must be moved before the verb with 把, e.g. 把书放在桌子上 "put the book on the table"). However, existential sentences of the form "there's a X in/on/at Y" usually follow the form "Y有X"; the location is often followed by a locational postposition such as 里 or 上, but 在 is not necessary in this case.
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GrandPiano wrote:
Iyionaku wrote::chn: Mandarin

有在我的靴子里一条蛇!
Yǒu zài wǒ de xuēzi lǐ yī tiáo shé!

[ɪ̯ɔʊ̯˨˩ t͡saɪ̯˥˩ ʊ̯ɔ˨˩ tə ɕy̯e˥t͡sɹ̩ li˨˩ i˥˩ tʰɪ̯aʊ̯˨˦ ʂə˨˦]
have at 1SG POSS boot inside one CL snake
There is a snake in my boot!
I already posted a Mandarin translation above... And your translation feels a bit ungrammatical to me. Prepositional phrases such as those starting with 在 usually go before the verb, and in the cases where they are placed after the verb, they are usually the last element of the sentence (if the verb has an object, it must be moved before the verb with 把, e.g. 把书放在桌子上 "put the book on the table"). However, existential sentences of the form "there's a X in/on/at Y" usually follow the form "Y有X"; the location is often followed by a locational postposition such as 里 or 上, but 在 is not necessary in this case.
Ouups, I didn't see your translation. Okay I'll delete mine.
Edit: I can't delete it, so I'll replace it by an Ular translation.
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:con: mọs

yoneta ta stohasima.
snake LOC boot-1SG
There is a snake in my boot.
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GrandPiano wrote:
Iyionaku wrote: :chn: Mandarin
有在我的靴子里一条蛇!
Yǒu zài wǒ de xuēzi lǐ yī tiáo shé!

There is a snake in my boot!
I already posted a Mandarin translation above... And your translation feels a bit ungrammatical to me. <snip> Existential sentences of the form "there's a X in/on/at Y" usually follow the form "Y有X"; the location is often followed by a locational postposition such as 里 or 上, but 在 is not necessary in this case.
I find GrandPiano's translation most natural:
GrandPiano wrote:我的靴子裡有一條蛇!
Wǒ de xuēzi li yǒu yī tiáo shé!
There's a snake in my boot!
In certain contexts, I think you could get away with:

有一條蛇在我的靴子裡!
Yǒu yī tiáo shé zài wǒ de xuēzi lǐ!

reminiscent of:

有人在(这里)吗?
Y a quelqu'un?
Is anybody here?


So, using GP's above schéma:

Y有X [tick]
有X在Y [tick]
有在YX [O.o]
Iyionaku wrote:Ouups [sic], I didn't see your translation. Okay I'll delete mine.
Edit: I can't delete it, so I'll replace it by an Ular translation.
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:ita: Italian
Ho un serpente nello stivale!
/(ʔ)ɔ un ser'pεnte nello sti'vaːle/
have.1SG IND.M snake in.DET.MS boot

:con: Hecathver/Häħadhvar
Fus merj idel ylimët jit ćunale!
/fus merʒ i'del yli'møt ʒit tsu'nale/
in my.DAT boot.DAT there_be.3SG IND snake

:con: Hajás
Asj álóm düvün op üttërxïmátnui!
/aʃ 'aːlɔːm 'dyvyn ɔp 'yttørdzɨmaːtnu.i/
IND snake there_be inside boot.LOC.POSS_1SG
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Wow! - :ita: stivale - :deu: Stiefel [B)]
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