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Omzinesý

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Sun 20 Mar 2011, 21:59

mayan

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I just took the liberty to sort things a little bit.

:eng:

Oh I can't! But you must!
:deu:

O, ich kann nicht! Aber du musst / Sie müssen!
:nld:

O, ik kan niet! Maar jij moet!

Unfortunately my french is far beyond that:
Oh, je ne peux pas! Mais il le faut!
Oh, je ne peux pas! Mais toi/vous , tu dois/vous devez!

:roc:

哦，不用啦！太多了！
不行，快點拿去
(In the context of gift giving upon entering someone's home. This may or may not repeat itself at least 2-3 times)

:zho:

哦
我不能
但你必须

:fin:

Voi, En voi, mutta sinun pitää/täytyy.
:sme:

Vuoi, Mun in sáhte, muhto don fertet.

:con:

goshpeshyshta
dhada! im onue ysaik ko | gain go ysaik kib
Oh! can NEG do I | but must do you
I cannot do it! But you must do it!

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Pirka

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Mon 21 Mar 2011, 00:52

wood

Joined: Sat 09 Oct 2010, 10:18
Posts: 937
Location: Seattle

Omzinesý wrote:

I just took the liberty to sort things a little bit.

:eng:

Oh I can't! But you must!
:deu:

O, ich kann nicht! Aber du musst / Sie müssen!
:nld:

O, ik kan niet! Maar jij moet!

:rus:

О, я не могу! Но вам нужно!

:fra:

Oh, je ne peux pas! Mais il le faut!
:fra:

Oh, je ne peux pas! Mais toi/vous , tu dois/vous devez!

:roc:

哦，不用啦！太多了！
不行，快點拿去
(In the context of gift giving upon entering someone's home. This may or may not repeat itself at least 2-3 times)

:zho:

哦
我不能
但你必须

:fin:

Voi, en voi! Mutta sinun pitää/täytyy.
:sme:

Vuoi, mun in sáhte! Muhto don fertet!

:con:

goshpeshyshta
dhada! im onue ysaik ko | gain go ysaik kib
Oh! can NEG do I | but must do you
I cannot do it! But you must do it!

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Selinki

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Sun 01 Apr 2012, 21:51

hieroglyphic

Joined: Mon 27 Feb 2012, 17:58
Posts: 65
Location: Estonia

Oh I can't! But you must!

:con:

Selinki

Je mizmejjzl! A dary tale!
[je mizm"ejz`l a Dar"}: t"a:le]
I NEG-may/can-1SG but you-LOC need

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DanH34

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 01:52

sinic

Joined: Fri 13 Jan 2012, 02:12
Posts: 190

Oh, I can't! But you must!

:con:

Zidhgebzhail

ai, vy Enoips! houdzh dy Enovd!

Spoiler: show

Oh, I can't do. But you must do.

The verb could be changed depending on what exactly cannot/must be done.

Dan

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Xing

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 15:02

MVP

Joined: Sun 22 Aug 2010, 18:46
Posts: 3819
Location: Sài Gòn

Wateu

Xe kuxua mai. Teya kommo no.
PRS NEG.Be_able 1s but must 2s
'I am not able. But you must'

I'm not really sure about the underlying structure; at what node the auxiliary verb joins the construction etc.

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Ehecatl12

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 13:51

hieroglyphic

Joined: Tue 31 Jan 2012, 13:05
Posts: 26

Rinaki has model/auxillary suffixes not seperate words for can/must.

Os, ntsayrupfutpay, uwau hnunusha ntsayrupfutpi!
Oh! ntsay-rupfu-tpay, uwau hnunu-sha ntsay-rupfu-tpi
Oh! SMTHNG-do-ABLITY, but 2.SG-AGT SMTHNG-do-OBLIGATION
Oh I can't! But you must!

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Chagen

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Thu 24 May 2012, 16:08

korean

Joined: Sat 03 Sep 2011, 05:14
Posts: 2266

Pazmat:

"Ē, ix! Cla, yafe!"
[ē, i-ix! Cla, ya-fe!]
[oh, be.1.SG-NEG! But, must-2.SG!]

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taylorS

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Mon 28 May 2012, 02:23

greek

Joined: Thu 12 Aug 2010, 05:06
Posts: 311

Korpasian uses the Potential and Obligative moods with the verb "do".

Korpasian

Tap yokldzum! Tap yokanniet!
ta-p yok-ldzu-m ta-p yok-annie-t
that-ACC do-POT-1SG.TEL that-ACC do-OBLIG-2SG.TEL

POT = Potential Mood
OBLIG = Obligative Mood
TEL = Telic

This implies a demand to do a particular thing. If the demand was something like "do something, ANYTHING!" the Atelic endings would be used and the demonstratives omitted.

Yokldzuš! Yokanniel!
yok-ldzu-š yok-annie-l
do-POT-1SG.ATEL do-OBLIG-2SG.ATEL

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Xing

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Mon 28 May 2012, 09:35

MVP

Joined: Sun 22 Aug 2010, 18:46
Posts: 3819
Location: Sài Gòn

Vosel wrote:

Micamo wrote:

:eng: Oh I can't! But you must!

How do different languages handle situations like this where english has a "zero verb"?

What do you mean by "zero verb"?

Probably that there are no "main verbs" in the clauses, only auxiliaries. "Normally", auxiliary verbs are followed by a main verb.

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Aseca

Post subject: Re: Oh I can't! But you must!

Posted: Mon 04 Jun 2012, 17:13

sinic

Joined: Mon 04 Jun 2012, 14:34
Posts: 237

Aloha:
Ā, ma sran! Aniau rarrah!
/ a mʌ sɹʌɴ! ʌŋaʊ rærʌh /
Voc not can.1sg! But must.2sg!

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