You got me curious. Would you be willing to lift the veil of secrecy at least a little bit? Like: what genres are you interested in? Or whatever you feel comfortable sharing.Reyzadren wrote: ↑26 Jan 2018 23:41People here have very specific interests that do not align with mine. Upon browsing the forum, one can see other members' comments about what they like in other threads, as well as what they don't like.
unconventional settings: how to get people interested
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Excuse me, perhaps chill a bit. Didn't know this would end up like this.
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Dammit, responding to criticism by listening to it and thinking about one's own actions is NOT how online discussions are supposed to go.
Thanks for taking my comment seriously. FWIW, I was actually coming here to delete it. Not that I think I was wrong, but that I in turn was probably too sharp in tone - and that it probably wasn't worth derailing the thread. Nonetheless, in the interests of clarity...
Thanks for taking my comment seriously. FWIW, I was actually coming here to delete it. Not that I think I was wrong, but that I in turn was probably too sharp in tone - and that it probably wasn't worth derailing the thread. Nonetheless, in the interests of clarity...
Spoiler:
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Oh, friend! You're so kind to remember me! You really made my day!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwQ1TGwFu8
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That has a...tendency...to happen around here.
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Elemtilas, your reaction seems to indicate that you believe this to have been all about you somehow? That had not occurred to me before this odd post of yours.elemtilas wrote: ↑28 Jan 2018 01:29Oh, friend! You're so kind to remember me! You really made my day!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zwQ1TGwFu8
Salmoneus and shimobaatar both showed the board and OP the respect of clarifying at length their standpoints and interpretations of Reyzadren’s post and your reaction to it. Have you considered doing the same?
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If anyone feels like this particular line of discussion should continue, I'd suggest moving it to PMs.
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I don’t want any PMs. Thanks.
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Oh, no indeed. I simply appreciate so very much when our dear Sal decides to pontificate and also that he never forgets to get in his digs. I am simply expressing my heartfelt gratitude that our dear friend condescended to acknowledge my little part, there in the very heart of his deep and wise teaching!DesEsseintes wrote: ↑28 Jan 2018 02:24Elemtilas, your reaction seems to indicate that you believe this to have been all about you somehow?Spoiler:
Goodness I should hope not!That had not occurred to me before this odd post of yours.
I really don't see much need for further clarification or apology or deconstruction of what was said. But since you ask, I'll just say the following:Salmoneus and shimobaatar both showed the board and OP the respect of clarifying at length their standpoints and interpretations of Reyzadren’s post and your reaction to it. Have you considered doing the same?
Frankly, I really don't care what Reyzadren's opinion of anyone's work here is. He's welcome to it. I also really don't care if he wants to pour forth with his own work or withhold everything from us. He's welcome to do either. I don't much appreciate it when words are being put in my mouth (or anyone else's) --- is there not a House Rule against that or something?.
What I don't appreciate is the methodology. I didn't and still don't see his point in putting words in our mouths by saying that none of us will like or care for his work. (On the contrary, that's nòt normal: I think most of us who are at all active dó actually appreciate the efforts of others and are interested in learning more. That's rather the point of a community.)
I don't see the point with the intentional antagonism, flat out saying (implicitly) that everyone's work here sucks and (explicitly) that it's boring. The point of a community is to uplift and encourage one another, not put everyone down.
I don't see the point in advertising the fact you won't share your work because you're some kind of clairvoyant that knows what everyone thinks, what everyone likes and what everyone won't care for just because you've seen a (very skewed) slice of people's online activity here. I thought it was presumptuous before, and I still think it is. Part of being in a community like this is showing off your work. No one here has in any way disrespected Reyzadren or demanded of him a show and tell session.
Just so that we're on the same page, this is the salient portion of Reyzadren's first response to the thread:
And the second response:I don't post anything about my conworld here because I know most people here won't be interested in it. That's normal, it's not just you. People here have very specific interests that do not align with mine. Conversely, I am not interested in other conworlds that are shown here which are considered to be exciting, I think they are boring.
People here have very specific interests that do not align with mine. Upon browsing the forum, one can see other members' comments about what they like in other threads, as well as what they don't like.
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Nowhere at all did he imply or explicate that he finds any work presented here to be of objectively inferior quality. He may express a subjective value judgement but that is expected. He hasn't put anybody down. You're basically shadow boxing.
All he did was make a prediction based on his observation of the actions and words of other people. This isn't a feeling of clairvoyance, this is literally what every human does for literally everything.because you're some kind of clairvoyant that knows what everyone thinks, what everyone likes and what everyone won't care for just because you've seen a (very skewed) slice of people's online activity here.
That's literally what YOU'RE doing.I don't much appreciate it when words are being put in my mouth (or anyone else's)
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Yo, we get it. Sometimes people can be very insistent on these sort of things. I is it want to avoid a bit flame war and get on topic. Now, currently, I'm just trying to do some material for my setting with first being a screenplay for a possible pilot. I'm still stuck at it. What I'm doing is setting up all 5 of the main characters before they end up getting teleported into my world.
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Ya, sorry your thread became derailed a bit! (It happens here, just like everywhere else. We just have to be patient & forgiving, say what we need to say and move on along!)fruityloops wrote: ↑28 Jan 2018 14:55 Yo, we get it. Sometimes people can be very insistent on these sort of things. I is it want to avoid a bit flame war and get on topic. Now, currently, I'm just trying to do some material for my setting with first being a screenplay for a possible pilot. I'm still stuck at it. What I'm doing is setting up all 5 of the main characters before they end up getting teleported into my world.
As for your actual question, I did actually have some thoughts on that, which may or may not fit your own particular circumstance & experience.
I would actually disagree with you about people not taking an interest. First of all, you are almost brand-spanking new here. Second, you only (properly) introduced your world three days ago.so recently I've just learned that a lot of people don't take interest in my setting. Now this is mostly my fault as I tend to not make the most enticing of pitches. even then, we try to say "basically Conan the barbarian meets redwall but the main races are insects, arachnid and crustaceans" after a long post explaining everything. No one comments. I'm not even sure if I should post here in fears people might not even bother posting a comment on their. Even when I talk about people don't quote it to show interest.
so for any of you people who have settings that are out there, please tell me your secrets on how people get so invested in it.
You can hardly expect people to take an interest immediately you join a forum. No one knows who you are or even to look for anything posted by you. That takes a while. But once you did begin the Verlyria thread, you have gotten quite a bit of interest. If you take a look at the stats by the thread title, you can see (as of time of writing) you've got 21 replies and 258 thread views. That's quite respectable for a three day time period!
As for the rest of the question, I'd say this. They best way to get any attention at all here is to post good quality content and that in some quantity and that over a long period of time.
The rest is just common sense & general take-it-or-leave-it advice that you probably already know:
* if you post a picture, make sure there's some words to go with it. Describe the scene, introduce the characters.
* make a variety of shorter & longer posts on interesting topics: culture, history, language, weather, social life, etc.
* tell some stories!
* take part in the Muiltiverse Inn, when it's active; and also the conculture opinions thread
* style counts: make sure you spell properly and make use of sentences & paragraphs
* answer your fan mail: when people ask questions, they're looking for more information. Give it them! "Yes/no" answers don't instill much confidence and may lead to a declining interest. If you keep us interested with your answers, general interest will be maintained.
So yeah, there's no secret formula. Now that you've introduced your world, we know about it. Just keep us interested!
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