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What did you accomplish today? [2011–2019]
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
My minicity is http://gonabebig1day.myminicity.com/xml
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Interesting. Try this: Go to my Twitter profile and look through my tweets. You will see both Lortho and Dhakhsh entries. That should solve the issue.eldin raigmore wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019 23:32Every time I try, Twitter tells me “Something went wrong. Try again.”
https://lortho.conlang.org
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't." - Mark Twain
"Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't." - Mark Twain
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Yes! Impressive!bbbourq wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019 00:51Interesting. Try this: Go to my Twitter profile and look through my tweets. You will see both Lortho and Dhakhsh entries. That should solve the issue.eldin raigmore wrote: ↑28 Jan 2019 23:32Every time I try, Twitter tells me “Something went wrong. Try again.”
My father was a calligrapher, and my brother is one too.
(I’m not. )
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Today I added the following entries to the Landau Core Vocabulary under Verbs of Physical Aggression:
to blind (temporarily)
to blind (permanently)
Adding those made me think of the Oasis song "Wonderwall", which brought to mind the line "The fire in your heart is out". I then added these:
to put out, to extinguish (a cigarette)
to put out, to extinguish (a match)
to put out, to extinguish (a fire)
I've had "to light, to ignite" for these three situations in the LCV for several years now. I'm amazed it took so long before I added the opposite of the concept.
I also added a word to the Foods section in Part V:
muffin
Such an everyday food, and yet it's been missing for so long.
to blind (temporarily)
to blind (permanently)
Adding those made me think of the Oasis song "Wonderwall", which brought to mind the line "The fire in your heart is out". I then added these:
to put out, to extinguish (a cigarette)
to put out, to extinguish (a match)
to put out, to extinguish (a fire)
I've had "to light, to ignite" for these three situations in the LCV for several years now. I'm amazed it took so long before I added the opposite of the concept.
I also added a word to the Foods section in Part V:
muffin
Such an everyday food, and yet it's been missing for so long.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Developed a tentative orthography for my Crim. Gothic:
Aa – Aа
Bb – Бб
Dd – Дд
Ee – Ээ
Ff – Фф
Gg – Гг
Hh – Һһ (loanwords only)
Ii – Ии
Kk – Кк
Ll – Лл
Mm – Мм
Nn – Нн
Oo – Оо
Pp – Пп
Rr – Рр
Ss – Сс
Tt – Тт
Uu/Ww – Уу
Vv – Вв
Zz – Зз
Þþ – Ѳѳ
Long vowels and consonants are doubled (so "brenna" is <брэнна>).
Misc:
ch – Хх
sch – Шш
ja – я
jo – ё
ju – ю
ѳа уорд "the word"
скютэн or шютэн "to shoot"
Subject to change, of course. I may need a consistent way to represent schwa.
Aa – Aа
Bb – Бб
Dd – Дд
Ee – Ээ
Ff – Фф
Gg – Гг
Hh – Һһ (loanwords only)
Ii – Ии
Kk – Кк
Ll – Лл
Mm – Мм
Nn – Нн
Oo – Оо
Pp – Пп
Rr – Рр
Ss – Сс
Tt – Тт
Uu/Ww – Уу
Vv – Вв
Zz – Зз
Þþ – Ѳѳ
Long vowels and consonants are doubled (so "brenna" is <брэнна>).
Misc:
ch – Хх
sch – Шш
ja – я
jo – ё
ju – ю
ѳа уорд "the word"
скютэн or шютэн "to shoot"
Subject to change, of course. I may need a consistent way to represent schwa.
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Oh cool, I've never seen a Germanic language written with the Cyrillic alphabet before!
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Thought up a little parable/exercise to work on during my upcoming vacation,,,
Spoiler:
At work on Apaan: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4799
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BEFORE:
The connective "id" is used to mean that an action is "done to" something. It is used after a gerund to connect it to its object:
Adhashar id goshaniya en hethet stoern.
clean done_to toilet PST task difficult
Cleaning the toilet was a difficult task.
Ovai id zikheth id ventas dyu meyez hazias ad tzareimin is.
watch done_to shoot done_to animal-PL by person-PL make-PRS to angry 1s
Watching people shoot animals makes me angry.
NEW:
Passive object-phrases like the latter example must have a verb. Instead of "seeing him happy", say "seeing him be happy":
Em id e gweimo dyu ar soerzas is.
see done_to BE sad by 2s pain-PRS 1s
Seeing you sad pains me.
(Note that a second "id" is not required after the verb "e".)
The connective "id" is used to mean that an action is "done to" something. It is used after a gerund to connect it to its object:
Adhashar id goshaniya en hethet stoern.
clean done_to toilet PST task difficult
Cleaning the toilet was a difficult task.
Ovai id zikheth id ventas dyu meyez hazias ad tzareimin is.
watch done_to shoot done_to animal-PL by person-PL make-PRS to angry 1s
Watching people shoot animals makes me angry.
NEW:
Passive object-phrases like the latter example must have a verb. Instead of "seeing him happy", say "seeing him be happy":
Em id e gweimo dyu ar soerzas is.
see done_to BE sad by 2s pain-PRS 1s
Seeing you sad pains me.
(Note that a second "id" is not required after the verb "e".)
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Yes. I figured the historical background of the language called for it. Furthermore, upon accessing Stearn's work, who proposed a phonology for Crimean Gothic, I've taken it and see if I could introduce a Cyrillic spelling into it.Khemehekis wrote: ↑29 Jan 2019 08:31 Oh cool, I've never seen a Germanic language written with the Cyrillic alphabet before!
The vowels:
/i iː u uː/ <и ии у уу>
/e eː ə o oː/ <э ээ ? о оо>
/a (aː)/ <а аа>
The corpus does not have /aː/ as a phoneme, but nonetheless I've included it as I believe loanwords such as vāzer [ˈvaː.zər], "market" from Middle Persian could reintroduce it. I am somewhat unsure how to cyrillicize schwa. Schwa only occurs in unstressed syllables, usually as the second syllable of a two syllable word.
The consonants:
/m n/ <м н>
/p b t d k (g)/ <п б т д к ґ>
/f v θ s (z) ʃ x ɣ/ <ф в ѳ с з ш х г>
/r l j/ <р л ?>
Per Stearns, CG did not have the phonemes /g/ or /z/. Much like Ukrainian, /g/ would be reintroduced into the language from Western European loanwords. I believe /z/ too, would be introduced through loanwords like zebre [ˈze.brə], though its possible it may not have the functional load required.
The status of /j/ is uncertain, Stearns says the language likely had it as a phoneme, but it doesn't appear anywhere in the corpus (with his alterations.)
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
You have a couple of choices. You could follow the Circassian example and use Yery <ы>, or you could follow the examples set by some Uralic languages like Komi and use ӧ. Alternatively schwa is available as a letter in Cyrillic.
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While on a family trip, I found some hentaigana that I could use for Nyango to write certain sounds I wanted to derive from Old Japanese and Middle Japanese. Just want to double check that there aren't ones I like more if I get the chance (could only see some hentaigana symbols that I would have been interested in.)
Re: What did you accomplish today?
Thank you!shimobaatar wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019 13:52Always nice to see something Gothic-based. I like the phonology so far.
I have gone with the schwa for now, however, it doesn't seem to correlate to schwa in some of the languages that use it.Frislander wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019 12:32You have a couple of choices. You could follow the Circassian example and use Yery <ы>, or you could follow the examples set by some Uralic languages like Komi and use ӧ. Alternatively schwa is available as a letter in Cyrillic.
I think I might add two additional phonemes, /ø/ and /y/ from /eu/ and /iu/ respectively. They'll be romanized as <ö> and <ü> respectively, although I need cyrillic letters for them too
beudaną > böden (German bieten)
biudizi > büdize? (c.f. dorbize?)
Re: What did you accomplish today?
I expanded the demonstrative pronouns, now they behave even more like personal pronouns:
https://www.frathwiki.com/Vrkhazhian#De ... e_Pronouns
ṣəhuñwinak šuddəm.
[sʼəɦuŋwinɑk çudːəm]
DEM.PROX-DIR-MASC-PL-GEN ACT.PRES-speak.to\ACT-PL
These ones must speak to each other.
šuñwin tšada vərxažšəya šuddəm.
[çuŋwin tçɑdɑ βərxɑçːəjɑ çudːəm]
2m.NOM-DIR-PL ACC-mouth-FEM.SG vrkhazhian-ADJ-FEM.SG ACT.PRES-speak\ACT-PL
You all must speak Vrkhazhian.
https://www.frathwiki.com/Vrkhazhian#De ... e_Pronouns
ṣəhuñwinak šuddəm.
[sʼəɦuŋwinɑk çudːəm]
DEM.PROX-DIR-MASC-PL-GEN ACT.PRES-speak.to\ACT-PL
These ones must speak to each other.
šuñwin tšada vərxažšəya šuddəm.
[çuŋwin tçɑdɑ βərxɑçːəjɑ çudːəm]
2m.NOM-DIR-PL ACC-mouth-FEM.SG vrkhazhian-ADJ-FEM.SG ACT.PRES-speak\ACT-PL
You all must speak Vrkhazhian.
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I've also considered that and my usual choice for schwa is the hard sign <ъ>, which is used in South-Slavic. Cyrillic letters are much better for non-front unrounded vowels than the Romance ones.Ælfwine wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 18:55I have gone with the schwa for now, however, it doesn't seem to correlate to schwa in some of the languages that use it.Frislander wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019 12:32You have a couple of choices. You could follow the Circassian example and use Yery <ы>, or you could follow the examples set by some Uralic languages like Komi and use ӧ. Alternatively schwa is available as a letter in Cyrillic.
I think I might add two additional phonemes, /ø/ and /y/ from /eu/ and /iu/ respectively. They'll be romanized as <ö> and <ü> respectively, although I need cyrillic letters for them too
beudaną > böden (German bieten)
biudizi > büdize? (c.f. dorbize?)
For Cyrillic /ø/ and /y/, <ÿ> and <ö> are the simple solution.
If you want to get ancient, Cyrillic ypsilon <ѵ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izhitsa could be used for /y/.
You can also use ligatures, say <ıy> and <ıo> or <ю> respectively.
My meta-thread: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5760
Re: What did you accomplish today?
For /ø/ I was thinking of the barred <ө>, but this might be too close to fita <ѳ>. Crimean Tatar, my closest neighbor, uses <ё> and <ю> respectively, which might fit better with the etymology.Omzinesý wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 19:25I've also considered that and my usual choice for schwa is the hard sign <ъ>, which is used in South-Slavic. Cyrillic letters are much better for non-front unrounded vowels than the Romance ones.Ælfwine wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 18:55I have gone with the schwa for now, however, it doesn't seem to correlate to schwa in some of the languages that use it.Frislander wrote: ↑11 Feb 2019 12:32You have a couple of choices. You could follow the Circassian example and use Yery <ы>, or you could follow the examples set by some Uralic languages like Komi and use ӧ. Alternatively schwa is available as a letter in Cyrillic.
I think I might add two additional phonemes, /ø/ and /y/ from /eu/ and /iu/ respectively. They'll be romanized as <ö> and <ü> respectively, although I need cyrillic letters for them too
beudaną > böden (German bieten)
biudizi > büdize? (c.f. dorbize?)
For Cyrillic /ø/ and /y/, <ÿ> and <ö> are the simple solution.
If you want to get ancient, Cyrillic ypsilon <ѵ> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izhitsa could be used for /y/.
You can also use ligatures, say <ıy> and <ıo> or <ю> respectively.
Re: What did you accomplish today?
during my vacation of the last few days, I realized a major misunderstanding I'd been laboring under...
I had thought Gothic was a Germanic language, and compared its known words to various Germanic words; and had toyed with having a Welsh-like initial mutation.
...and just recently, I learned (Nat Geo History magazines) that Gothic is on the Celtic branch of IE, not the Germanic.
*facepalms*
I had thought Gothic was a Germanic language, and compared its known words to various Germanic words; and had toyed with having a Welsh-like initial mutation.
...and just recently, I learned (Nat Geo History magazines) that Gothic is on the Celtic branch of IE, not the Germanic.
*facepalms*
At work on Apaan: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4799
Re: What did you accomplish today?
I've never heard of a "Welsh-like initial mutation" in Gothic.Keenir wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 23:36 during my vacation of the last few days, I realized a major misunderstanding I'd been laboring under...
I had thought Gothic was a Germanic language, and compared its known words to various Germanic words; and had toyed with having a Welsh-like initial mutation.
...and just recently, I learned (Nat Geo History magazines) that Gothic is on the Celtic branch of IE, not the Germanic.
*facepalms*
That does sound silly, regardless.
Re: What did you accomplish today?
sorry, I meant that was something I had thought to add on, as part of my version/continuation of Gothic.Ælfwine wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 23:48I've never heard of a "Welsh-like initial mutation" in Gothic.Keenir wrote: ↑13 Feb 2019 23:36 during my vacation of the last few days, I realized a major misunderstanding I'd been laboring under...
I had thought Gothic was a Germanic language, and compared its known words to various Germanic words; and had toyed with having a Welsh-like initial mutation.
...and just recently, I learned (Nat Geo History magazines) that Gothic is on the Celtic branch of IE, not the Germanic.
*facepalms*
That does sound silly, regardless.
At work on Apaan: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4799
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Re: What did you accomplish today?
I am a bit confused. Gothic is an East Germanic language. It is not a Celtic language. Or is the facepalm because Nat Geo History magazine did such an obvious mistake.
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