Lexember 2023

Knox Adjacent · Post by **Knox Adjacent** » 09 Dec 2023 11:46

Day 8
yu-ʈiruwukilac n. windshield ("windglass")
Had glass but not wind as a word...

lurker · Post by **lurker** » 09 Dec 2023 16:35

Dawn of the Ninth Day. 519 Hours Remain

I've got a few today, so I'll run through them and give an example sentence.

-K
[long high strong growl]

Verbal suffix denoting the dogmatic mood. It's used when the speaker wishes to emphasize the truth of the statement. Can be translated using the emphatic do in English, as in "I do wash my hands after using the bathroom." It can also be translated as "I swear that..." as in a promise or threat. Also used, as the name implies, when making truth claims that must be assented to in order to be considered part of a group (which is how I personally use the word "dogma"). If I get around to translating the first article of the universal declaration of human rights, the verbs ("are born", "are endowed" etc) will be in the dogmatic mood, although "human beings" must necessarily change to something like "sophonts" to include our little visitors. In this case I consider the declaration dogmatic because it's an axiom that I must agree to to be considered a reasonable human being in a modern liberal democracy. If I denied the claim made in the declaration I would be rightfully shunned.

Anyway, on to some less political stuff...

Lmq

[late low strengthening grunt, huff]

Verb
to repair, to fix.
Also used in the imminent aspect construction. Inspired by my own English dialect, which uses "fixing to..." in the same way.

fCq

[early falling strong whine, huff]

Verb
To lose

Putting this altogether, we get the following example sentence (Commonthroat is read right to left):

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qMqmqn Lmqk fCqK png qbf KC B rkH cdqml
qMqm-qn Lmq-K    fCq-K   pn-g          qbf  K-C          B   rkH cdq-m-l
human-2 fix-DOG lose-DOG digit-3.INDEF if   time-another try rub ask-CUSTOMARY-1 
I swear you're fixin' to lose a finger if you try and pet me again.

Iyionaku · Post by **Iyionaku** » 09 Dec 2023 18:46

Lexember 9 - Yélian

ilʻo [ˈilʔɔ̈] - sweet candy (bonbon), lollipop
Etymology: onomatopetic from the sound of a child enjoying a sweet candy.

Nat reo îyi fadreyet to píltivon, rat cenít fecun ilʻon.
[nɐt ˈɾeː.ɔ̈ ɸɐdˈɾeːʃət to ˈpiltɨʋɔ̈n, ɾɐt kəˈniːt ˈɸeːkʉn ˈilʔɔ̈n]
when 1SG.POSS child TERM-do-3SG 3SG.MASC.POSS homework-PL, 1SG.OBL reward-INV.3SG.ANIM with candy-PL
When my child completes his homework, I reward him with sweet candy.

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 09 Dec 2023 21:18

Shaleyan

DAY 7

ninin
(P) to ring (of a telephone)
Onomatopeia

Oleñal ye sheyoñal ninin Sephiya ba hawo.
day-throughout and night-throughout ring Sephiya of telephone
Sephiya's telephone rang all day and all night.

Bonus word: sheyoñal: all night (sheyo, night + ñal, throughout; formed on analogy with oleñal, all day)

DAY 8

yanasaw
software
yan, into + asaw, to put

Philan nakha yanasaw da da al pa piñe kikhe nayaz.
Philan buy software 1* *1 3s.ANIM for basically fill_out tax
Philan bought some software that basically does his taxes for him.

Bonus words: piñe: basically, essentially
kikhe: (T) to fill in, to fill out; to do (one's taxes); check mark
nayaz: tax

DAY 9

lupus
(P) to slip; slip; mistake, error

lupusipho
accidentally
lupus + pho (by, by means of, via)

phidaz
(H) to mean to, to intend to; intent; intention

phidazipho
on purpose, deliberately, intentionally
phidaz + pho

Philikh is Eli lupusipho weñe Pawolo ba azep.
graduation during Ellie accidentally skip Pawolo of name
Ellie accidentally skipped Pawolo's name during the graduation.

spanick · Post by **spanick** » 10 Dec 2023 02:07

Lexember 9

Yemya
rautsna /rautsnɑ/ n. “copper” from PIE *h₁rewdʰ “red”

Yinše
c’apar /t͡sʼapar/ n. “bronze” Likely a Wanderwort. Bronze is a rare trade commodity for the Yinše due to the lack of locally sourced tin.

qwed117 · Post by **qwed117** » 10 Dec 2023 04:34

Lexember 6, 7, 8, 9

zö3tin1 n. letter, message, epistle, missive

hwas1-ang2 v. to write, to inscribe

bic3sat2 n. science; from Sanskrit compare Thai วิทยาศาสตร์

cho3 maj3gua2 phí2 [S] prep phrase with, alongside; lit. 'in the company of', indicating a significant degree of collaboration.

Hwas1-ma1 hoy3 zö3tin1 kú2 zien1 bic3sat2 cho3 maj3gua3 phí2 sè1chu3 phí2 öng1
write-PST 1SG letter about city science in company of friend of REFL
"I wrote the letter about urban science with my friend"

_Just_A_Sketch · Post by **_Just_A_Sketch** » 10 Dec 2023 05:14

Lexember Day 9
Hɛlcɛso
Xutimsamaw /ɕutimsamaw/
Noun - inanimate - a pot, bowl, cup, or other container for liquids

Etymology - from xutimsa "container" and maw "water". xutimsa is the customary of xutim "to hold", "to keep". Xutimsamaw literally means "water holder".

(if any of y'all noticed the <x> is used for /ɕ/ while before it was used for /ʃ/, that's because Ive revamped the phonology (for like the 100th time by now) so the post-alveolars have become palatals)

Solarius · Post by **Solarius** » 10 Dec 2023 05:28

simə [si.mə] (n.) - automobile, cart

Sisimə amtur yowon Toyota.
DEF-car favorite 1p.SG Toyota
"My favorite car is a Toyota."

Khemehekis · Post by **Khemehekis** » 10 Dec 2023 09:18

LCV Categories for Week 3:

Food and Drink (Part IV)

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More Food and Drink (Part V)

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Taste (Part IV)

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More Taste (Part V)

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The Five Senses (Part IV)

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Colors (Part IV)

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More Colors (Part V)

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Physical Condition (Part IV)

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zyma · Post by **zyma** » 10 Dec 2023 12:46

Day 10

Hannaito (Entry 10):

dzüi /dɯᵝi/ [ˈd͡zɨᵝi̯]
Noun:
1. salt, table salt
2. rock salt, halite
3. saltiness
4. brine, pickling solution
5. sea salt
6. brackish water, saltwater, sea water
7. salt marsh, salt lake, sea, ocean

Etymology
From Proto-Hannaitoan *diwliy "salt". Cognates include Gampyo djūlī "salt, spice, preservative".

Now that we're beginning Week 3 of Lexember, I've taken some time to read through and comment on what other participants have posted so far for Week 2. I won't necessarily comment on every single entry, but hopefully I haven't accidentally missed anyone's work entirely. Following qwed117's example from three years ago, I'm going to try to do this after every week.

Iyionaku:

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Iyionaku wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 08:58
shimobaatar wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 12:30 Hopefully this example sentence isn't based on a true story! If I might ask, what are the individual words for "neighbor" and "pervert" that together make acusorcund?
First, thank you for keeping up the tradition of giving awesome reviews to the words!

Haha no, it's not a true story, at least not a personal experience.
acusor translates to "neighbor" and cund is "perverted, fixated on sex"

Oh, I'm happy to do so!

Ah good, I'm glad to hear it!

Thank you for the explanation!

Iyionaku wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 16:54 iomea [ɪ̯ɔ̈ˈmeː.ɐ] - to sow, to seed
iomǽt [ɪ̯ɔ̈ˈmœːt] - seed, sowing

Etymology: retroactive etymology change. Cross-derivation from iom "peace", and I decreed that the latter word derive from the former, as long peaceful periods are attributed with a steady food income.

Can tyapanuyei gartiuyolétan, nutafírenat raioméi u'iomǽt u Yélvenio*.
[kɐn t͡ʃɐpɐˈnuːʃɛɪ̯ ˈgaɾtɪ̯ʉʃɔ̈ˈleːtɐn, ˈnutɐˌɸiːɾənɐt ɾɐ.ɨ̯ɔ̈ˈmɛɪ̯ ʉɪ̯ɔ̈ˈmœːt u ˈʃelvənɪ̯o]
for POT-harvest-2SG potato-delicious-PL, best_way PROP-sow-2SG DEF.INAN=seed TEMP Yélvenio
In order to harvest delicious potatoes, for the best results you should sow them out between late March and April*.

*) In the Yélian Kingdom, two calendar systems are used in parallel, Gregorian and a native Yélian one. The latter has 365 days and leap years as well, but its 13 months have vastly differing lengths ranging from 4 days (the New Year's Month Ilverquet) and 60 days (the winter month Frostes) The Gregorian calendar is the dominant one in school, business and media, but colloquially the native calendar is still widely used, especially to discuss seasonal events.
The month Yélvenio, which is discussed here, has 42 days and its Gregorian equivalent is the time from March 23 to May 3.

Very interesting! I'll have to try searching the board to see if you've posted any other information about the Yélian calendar here before. I like the look & sound of iomea and iomǽt as well.

Iyionaku wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 09:55 vætifu [vəˈtiːɸʉ] - sewers, sewerage
Etymology: from væt "out" + sifu "river", from a river that flows out of a city

Out of the words you've posted this week, this is probably another one of my favorites.

Iyionaku wrote: ↑08 Dec 2023 10:31 iyva [ˈa̯iːʋɐ] - to stick, to tuck, to plug, to insert; to treat, to doctor, to put in splints
Etymology: semantic extension: iyva already meant "to treat, to doctor" for a long time. It received a semantic extension because some treatments that had been known since ancient times involved tucking broken tissue (such as bones or skin) together.

iyvek [ˈa̯iːʋək] - plug (electronics)
Etymology: trademarked name of a Yélian plug brand; derived from iyva.

periýveka [pəˈɾa̯iːʋəkɐ] - to plug in
Etymology: from the ingressive prefix per- + iyvek + verbalizer -a

fadiýveka [ɸɐˈda̯iːʋəkɐ] - to plug out
Etymology: from the terminative prefix fad- + iyvek + verbalizer -a

Can oyaukó reo veperyor civaredut. Un'iyvek ciperiývekatsbut.
[kɐn ɔʃaʊ̯ˈkoː ˈɾeːɔ̈ vəˈpeɾʃɔ̈d̟ kɨʋɐˈɾeːdʉt | ʉˈna̯iːʋək kɨpəˈɾa̯iːʋəkɐt͡sbʉt]
for knowledge-COL 1SG.POSS laptop NEG-charge-INV.3SG.INAN | DEF.INAN=plug NEG-plug_in-ADZ-COP.3SG.INAN
Of course my laptop isn't charging. The cable isn't plugged in.

Excellent!

Iyionaku wrote: ↑09 Dec 2023 18:46 ilʻo [ˈilʔɔ̈] - sweet candy (bonbon), lollipop
Etymology: onomatopetic from the sound of a child enjoying a sweet candy.

Nat reo îyi fadreyet to píltivon, rat cenít fecun ilʻon.
[nɐt ˈɾeː.ɔ̈ ɸɐdˈɾeːʃət to ˈpiltɨʋɔ̈n, ɾɐt kəˈniːt ˈɸeːkʉn ˈilʔɔ̈n]
when 1SG.POSS child TERM-do-3SG 3SG.MASC.POSS homework-PL, 1SG.OBL reward-INV.3SG.ANIM with candy-PL
When my child completes his homework, I reward him with sweet candy.

Oh, I don't think I'd have guessed that ilʻo was of onomatopoeic origin if you hadn't said so, but I can definitely hear/imagine it.

lurker:

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lurker wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 13:22
shimobaatar wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 12:30 If I might ask, what is the relationship between rDFrlmqrLPq and the sounds you've listed? My initial thought was that one letter might correspond to one sound, but there appear to be more letters than sounds. Actually, it looks like <r> is "chuff", <DF> is "long high strengthening whine", <lm> is "short low strengthening grunt", <q> is "huff", and <LP> is "long rising strengthening grunt". If that's correct, I'm curious as to how you decided which letter(s) would represent which sound.
You are correct. The topic for Commonthroat has a breakdown of the "romanization" system, although I need to update it to reflect the changes I've made over the last week. The system in the original thread uses vowel letters, but I've updated the system to remove <A>/<a>, <E>/<e>, <I>/<i> and <o> to both make it clear the language cannot be uttered by humans and to avoid a system that uses uppercase <I> and lowercase <L>.

There are only six true sounds in Commonthroat: Three vowels (whine, growl, and grunt) and three consonants (huff, chuff, and yip). The vowels also distinguish two levels each of length, tone, and volume (or "strength"). Two vowels can form a contour (diphthong) if they have the same phonation type (whine/growl/grunt) and do not differ only in length. <Bb> is not a valid contour, but <Bc> is.

The words for discribing tone and volume contours are straightforward (falling/rising tone and weakening/strengthening volume) but length is a bit unique. If the first vowel in the contour is short and the second is long, the change from the first end of the contour to the second happens earlier in the syllable, so those contours are "early". If the first vowel is long and the second is short, the change happens later in the syllable, so those contours are "late".

I had to really stretch things out to make dreaming dog noises into a viable phonetic space for a conlang.

Wow! Thank you for the explanation!

I'll try to remember to check out the thread in question at some point.

lurker wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 14:14 The Bright Way has been doing interstellar missions for even longer, not too long after they achieve spaceflight. Their zeal sometimes gets in the way of practicality, and they start out more or less flinging missionaries into the cold interstellar void without a lot of planning or forethought. Obviously they lose a lot of missionaries early on, and these pioneers are honored as martyrs.

Very interesting!

lurker wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 15:16 Noun

1. Surface, especially of a planet or moon
2. the rind of a fruit

Cool!

lurker wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023 15:31 HrBqMqmg

[long low strong growl, chuff, long low weak whine, huff, long low strong grunt, huff, short low strong grunt, short low weak growl]

Etymology
HrBg (nerd) + qMqmg (human).

HrBg is in turn a compound of:
H (no, none, -less) + rBg (ink)

qMqmg is an onomatopoeia of the English word "human".

Noun
A yinrih who is obsessed with human culture

The commonthroat word has a neutral to positive connotation, but it's often translated into English as "terraboo" (a blend of "terra" and "weeaboo") with same negative connotations as "weeaboo".

The word for "nerd" literally means "inkless". The idea is that nerds write a lot, and are thus constantly running out of their own ink. Since yinrih ink is a bodily fluid, it takes time to regenerate. The ink sac stores about as much ink as a fountain pen cartridge.

I love this. "terraboo" is fantastic.

lurker wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 12:54 Derivatives
GJmg
A creator, a worker, The Creator

The name of a god, perhaps? My apologies if you've explained this elsewhere.

lurker wrote: ↑09 Dec 2023 16:35 -K
[long high strong growl]

Verbal suffix denoting the dogmatic mood. It's used when the speaker wishes to emphasize the truth of the statement. Can be translated using the emphatic do in English, as in "I do wash my hands after using the bathroom." It can also be translated as "I swear that..." as in a promise or threat. Also used, as the name implies, when making truth claims that must be assented to in order to be considered part of a group (which is how I personally use the word "dogma"). If I get around to translating the first article of the universal declaration of human rights, the verbs ("are born", "are endowed" etc) will be in the dogmatic mood, although "human beings" must necessarily change to something like "sophonts" to include our little visitors. In this case I consider the declaration dogmatic because it's an axiom that I must agree to to be considered a reasonable human being in a modern liberal democracy. If I denied the claim made in the declaration I would be rightfully shunned.

Fascinating! Also, I believe this is my first time encountering the word "sophont(s)", so thank you for that.

Corphishy:

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Arayaz:

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Arayaz wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 17:47 Kubra is a slangy term used mostly by men, and deseguyna is an older word from before it was introduced.

Ah, got it! Thanks for the explanation.

Arayaz wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 18:20 Ruykkarraber agret "drop; cast" and kesdet "raise; reel in"

In suyresen agretir, in suyreseg kesdeten kra. "I cast my line, and I will reel it in."
1sg.I fishline-II cast-PST / 1sg.I fishline-IV reel-II FUT

They both end with -et; not a coincidence, of course, but I don’t know the specifics of that yet. Pre-Ruykkarraber isn’t gonna be worked out for a while, since Ruykkarraber is a protolang anyway. Agret suggests a connection with agda "to drop, to lose," and kesdet with kestau "to pick up."

These used to mean simply "set down" and "pick up" or something like that, but with the development of the fishing line, they gained this meaning as well.

Interesting!

Arayaz wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 03:19 Ruykkarraber [nayes] sdesdi tresbiren nira "to make a step forward (metaphorically), to advance"

[…]

A long phrase, this literally means "to grab the branch above oneself."

This is great.

Arayaz wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 03:18 Ruykkarraber skentur "pillar"

In dusuk skentures kad erut. "I stand upon a sturdy pillar."
1sg.1 sturdy pillar-2 upon stand

I really like the look & sound of both the entire example sentence and the word skentur by itself.

Arayaz wrote: ↑08 Dec 2023 15:23 Ruykkarraber dabitsuy "bowstring"

[…]

Almost every single word in that translation is new: ayrgi "to hold tight," -uynasak "aimed at," and of course dabitsuy, which looks Russian now that I think about it.

From a compound of dabit "unbending, stubborn, taut" and suy "string, rope, cord, line."

One of these words is an Easter egg.

dabit reminds me of Arabic ضابط (ḍābiṭ), though I don't know if this is the "Easter egg" you're talking about.

Arayaz wrote: ↑09 Dec 2023 03:50 Ruykkarraber gaseksku "bow"

[…]

Etymologically "one that bends."

I like that there's no connection between the word for "bow" and the word for "bowstring."

spanick:

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spanick wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 19:47
shimobaatar wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 12:30
Thanks, as always Shimo! I’m glad to be back after a too long hiatus.

spanick wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 19:47 Lexember 3
Yemya
śeśla /ɕeɕla/ n. ‘wheel’ from PIE *kʷékʷlos

Yinše
caahí‘išapoš /t͡saːhíʔiʃapoʃ/ n. ‘obsidian knife’ also sometimes caahíšapoš ultimately from caahi ‘knife’ and ‘išáp ‘obsidian’ itself a compound of ‘ii’ ‘stone, rock’ and šaap ‘to be black, dark’ plus -š ‘nominalizer’

Lovely!

spanick wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 07:25 Lexember 4
Yemya
śreithor /ɕreitʰor/ n. “abacus” literally “counter" from PIE *h₂rey- “to count, counter out” and *-tōr

Yinše
huyuu’ /hujuːʔ/ n. “throwing spear (for hunting)”

I don't know if you've ever posted an overview of the sound changes between PIE & Yemya anywhere, but I find it interesting to try working out what some of them may be based on the etymologies you include. I'm particularly intrigued by the apparent correspondence between *h₂ and /ɕ/.

Also, huyuu’ is an excellent word.

spanick wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 20:28 Lexember 5

Yemya
pit /pit/ n. “pen; writing brush” borrowed from Middle Chinese pit

Yinše
wayaá'ač /wajaáʔat͡ʃ/ n. “net (for fishing)” from wayaa “to knot” plus the iterative marker -'at plus the relativizer -š

I may have said something like this last year, but I quite enjoy seeing the (Middle) Chinese loanwords in Yemya.

spanick wrote: ↑06 Dec 2023 20:05 Lexember 6

Yemya
tśe /t͡ɕe/ n. “paper” from Middle Chinese tsyeX

Yinše
maa'e /maːʔe/ n. “reed; flute” originally only referred to flutes made from reeds but is extended to flutes made from other types of materials.

Wonderful!

spanick wrote: ↑08 Dec 2023 05:54 Lexember 7

Yemya
phalaśu /pʰɑlɑɕu/ n. “axe” from PIE *peleḱús

Yinše
‘išp’e /ʔiʃpʼe/ n. “hide scraper”

spanick wrote: ↑09 Dec 2023 04:32 Lexember 8

Yemya
phaiśa /pʰaiɕɑ/ n. “letter (symbol)” from PIE *peyḱ

phinś /pʰinɕ/ v. “to write” from the same root

Yinše
šuuraš /ʃuːraʃ/ n. “wine, alcoholic beverage” from šuura “to ferment, to rot”. The speakers of Yinše have access to several varieties of berries as well as grapes which they ferment into wine

spanick wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 02:07 Lexember 9

Yemya
rautsna /rautsnɑ/ n. “copper” from PIE *h₁rewdʰ “red”

Yinše
c’apar /t͡sʼapar/ n. “bronze” Likely a Wanderwort. Bronze is a rare trade commodity for the Yinše due to the lack of locally sourced tin.

These are all fantastic as well!

Flavia:

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Shemtov:

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Solarius:

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Knox Adjacent:

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_Just_A_Sketch:

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Imralu:

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Imralu wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 05:56 šigam 'use a lever', 'use a crowbar'
šigamed 'be a lever', '(be a) crowbar' (with -ed 'tool', 'bodypart')
→ tomešigam 'be a fulcrum', 'be a pivot'; figuratively: 'be the crux of an issue' ('it all hinges on ...') (from tom 'be a reference point', here: 'be a stationary point' + -e- LK2 + šigam)

I like the look and sound of this language in general, but I think šigamed might be my favorite out of the words you've posted here thus far.

Imralu wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 16:23 zam "be a wheeled vehicle" from the ornative za "with", "having" plus yum "wheel".
zaram "be a large, wheeled vehicle", with the augmentative infix -ar-.

Zam evolved out of tihased (litters/palanquins/sedan chairs) to which wheels were affixed. The basic shape remains, including the bearing poles. There are no animals on Qub that are larger or stronger than the Balog themselves, so horse or cattle-drawn carts never arose and only people power was used. As opposed to a litter, where the bearers, tihuwas, need to both support and propel the vehicle, making travelling at speed very taxing, the "bearers", d(ih)ezam, of a zam only need to propel it and can hang from the poles once speed is achieved, similar to how a skateboard allows once to travel at more or less a running pace using only short bursts of propulsion. As zam became more advanced, steerable wheels were developed as well as riding platforms for the dezam to stand, allowing them to basically skate rather than constantly hang. Rubber-bottomed break pads that are stepped on by the dezam and pushed into the road to slow the speed more effectively and safely are also now standard. Many zam have wheels that can be detached and stored on the roof in the event that they need to be converted back into a litter and carried over rough ground or stairs etc.

A zaram is a large zam operated by more than two dezam ... now called d(ih)ezaram. It may either be particularly luxurious inside, such as those used to transport the emperor and other dignitaries, or may be kitted out to take many paying passengers.

I don't really know how to translate d(ih)ezam. They are equivalent to rickshaw operators and both horse and postillion/coachman, like litter bearers, but they run and hang from the poles or stand on a board and skate the vehicle along. (The infix -ih- indicates customary action, useful to indicate that it is someone's job and not just what they are doing right now.)

This is all fantastic!

Imralu wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 19:03 dek "die suddenly"
→ dihek "be an insufferable person" (be one who should drop dead)

An excellent derivation.

Imralu wrote: ↑05 Dec 2023 19:03 wiyuwiqiyuh "emit the call of a screaming piha"; "be a screaming piha" (Lipaugus vociferans)
→ wihiyuwiqiyuh "be a screaming piha"

Lovely!

qwed117:

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VaptuantaDoi:

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VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 11:07
shimobaatar wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 12:30 This is all outstanding, as usual. I love all of the detail. Seeing your romlangs alway gives me the urge to work on some myself. Actually, that reminds me. I don't think i got a chance to comment on the thread for Fabbule, as much as I enjoyed reading it.
Thanks shimo! I should really get back to work on Fabbule. In fact, I'll throw it into the mix in place of UIL.

Nothing against what I've seen of UIL thus far, but I am quite a fan of Fabbule. Based on what I remember from your Week 1 etymological notes, is UIL descended from Old Latin?

VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 11:07 Vissard:
klonau (Standard) /kloˈno/, /klõˈno/, (SCV) /kjũˈno/, /t͡ɕũˈnõ/, (Southey) /kloˈnaf/ (eye dialect klonaf) masculine noun (nom.sg. klonaus /kloˈnuː/, obl.pl. klonaus, nom.pl. klonau, part. klonawour /klonaˈwor/ (Southey /klonaˈvor/) A bradawl (device used to create a small locating hole for subsequent drilling). Etymology: Rough calque of English bradawl, consisting of klon 'large nail' and au 'awl'. The former derives from kla 'nail' < Latin CLĀVEM 'key' and a semantically vague augmentative -on < -ŌNEM; au is a back-formation from Middle Vissard awel 'awl' (modern dialectal ewel, wel, vel 'thorn') treating the final element as the diminuitive -el < -ELLUM, although it is of unrelated origin, having been borrowed from Old English āwel 'awl'. Pronunciation notes: The pronunciation /kloˈno/ with an oral vowel is proscribed but commonplace; it is generally taught that compounds should retain their nasal vowel even before another vowel, although this is frequently ignored. The variant /kluˈno/ is frowned upon and is an unetymological spelling pronunciation. In Southey Vissard, the normal pronunciation is with final /f/, since Southey Middle Vissard had a shift /w/ → /v/ (regardless of origin) which prevented later monophthongisation of /au̯/. In the partitive, the consonant is retained, as is regular with -au nouns. Historical note: A lot of technical terms in Vissard are borrowed from various stages of English – boating, fishing and woodworking terms from Old English, naval, military and culinary terms from Middle English, and computing, transport and engineering terms from Modern English.

I love the back-formation & confusion with -el, along with your notes on pronunciation and English loanwords. Your use of different colors is very nice.

VaptuantaDoi wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 11:07 Fabbule:
arature /ˈaratᴜrᴇ/ [ˈaraturə] nn. (pl. araturi /ˈaratᴜrɪ/ [ˈaraturə]) Plough. Old Fabbule aratru, from Latin ARĀTRUM 'plough'; the Fabbule stress shift and subsequent vowel laxing meant that the ending was reinterpreted as an agent ending -ature < -ĀTŌREM, reinforced by the separate Old Fabbule word arature < Latin ARĀTŌREM 'ploughman'. The latter was replaced by arazzunajo [ˈaratː͡sunajːə] < *ARATIŌNĀRIUM.

The reinterpretation of the ending is fun. I also like the symbols you're using for the unstressed vowels in your phonemic transcriptions.

Pabappa:

Spoiler:

Pabappa wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 18:04 Yes, all of my recent projects are given English names, because it's hopeless for me to keep an internal name consistent for any significant amount of time. Even the names Poswa and Pabappa are no longer valid internally.

Ah, got it! I absolutely know the feeling. Thank you for your explanations!

Pabappa wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 18:04 mičanaba, the word for metal, which etymologically means shaped stone. The human population on this planet is very small, never getting beyond a few million, and behaviorally they are much more peaceful than humans on our world. Technological advances are slow and often soon forgotten. Thus, metal is not widely used; most metal is made into weapons and armor, nonetheless, as wood is used for most containers and dwellings.

The Play root here is miči "hard object; stone", with a verbal infix of -ana- which indicates it has been shaped by man (the standalone form of this verb is /šana/), and the handheld object classifier -ba. This suffix is used even when metal is spoken of as a mass noun.

This is a new word in the sense that, until today, it hadn't occurred to me that Play would be unlikely to have a standalone root for metal, let alone standalone roots for individual metals like iron, copper, and so on. So I actually removed a few words today and replaced them with compounds like this.

Very interesting!

Pabappa wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 10:48 tūiba and kataba, both words for objects that can be repurposed as weapons.

A tūiba denotes any ordinary handheld object whose primary use is not dangerous, .... something that would be unreasonable to prohibit access to outside a preschool or a prison.

A kataba is an object recognized as dangerous by design, such as a knife, but which still has a non-weaponous purpose and therefore can often be found in households, though they may be limited in strength, and stricter governments may limit access by certain groups. It is often considered better to have someone injure themselves cutting a vegetable because their knife was too weak than to have innocent people stabbed with these same knives because they were so sharp.

This is a wonderful distinction.

Ælfwine:

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Khemehekis:

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lurker · Post by **lurker** » 10 Dec 2023 13:45

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 12:46 The name of a god, perhaps? My apologies if you've explained this elsewhere.

A title, but not a name. The Bright Way is very insistent that the Creator has no name, as that would imply there are more than one of its kind that would need to be distinguished with names. Even giving it descriptive titles is acknowledged as a necessary evil required by the limitations of mortal language and thought. To describe is to limit.

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 12:46 Fascinating! Also, I believe this is my first time encountering the word "sophont(s)", so thank you for that.

I learned the word on this very forum. Now I see it everywhere. The Commonthroat word for sophont literally means "one who asks".

Arayaz · Post by **Arayaz** » 10 Dec 2023 16:10

Saturday, Lexember 9

Theme: Technology, Techniques, Tools, Invention, Innovation, Advancement

Ruykkarraber (kayg-)nedsku "bridge"

In Ruykkarras kuy aydig nesak nedskun nedir. "I crossed the bridge over the edge of Ruykkarra."
1sg.1 Ruykkarra-3 INALIENABLE.REVERSE edge-4 over bridge-2 cross-PST

Etymologically "valley-crosser," but usually abbreviated to simply "crosser."
The word kay "valley" can also refer to an interpersonal rift or disagreement, so kayg-nedsku can also refer to something that bridges a gap between two people, or a connection despite a difficulty in general.
While making this Lexember entry, I spotted a mistake in my lexicon. Originally, this word was entered as kayn-nedsku, which sounds better, but isn't how SK derivations work.

Flavia · Post by **Flavia** » 10 Dec 2023 18:06

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 12:46 I'm intrigued by the mentions of Latin & English here. I'll have to search the board to see if I can find any more information about Abaniscen and where/by whom it's spoken.

Anyway, I like how all of these words look and sound, and I'm also fond of using "to sow" and "to reap" for "input" and "output", respectively.

I don't think I have even written anything here about Abaniscen. It is used by small, winged humanoids native to an extraterrestrial world. About 900 years from now, after an apocalyptic event, they were reached by missionaries of a Christianity-derived religion in their aetheric machines.

Shemtov · Post by **Shemtov** » 10 Dec 2023 18:18

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 12:46
Shemtov wrote: ↑03 Dec 2023 23:10 Day 8
Hono
/hono/
[ho:no:]
Noun: "Harbor"

Note that this is the native term; There is a loanword from Classical Hanese <Koŋ> /Koŋ/ that is used in poetry, religious terminology, and to denote a Major Port City; it is contained in the name of the language, Zeikoŋdeizese
Are hono and koŋ cognates?

False Cognates, certainly. Hanese and Waanic are not related as far as I know. Besides, the PWaanic form of Hono is *saunau.
Also, since Hanese is inspired by Sino-Tibetan, and Waanic by Austronesian mixed with Mayan, I have incorporated a lot of words from the IRL inspiration, they are as cognate as :zho: <港> (

/kɔːŋ˧˥/) and Hawaiian <Hono> are IRL, as the words in the conlangs are nods to the IRL words!

Knox Adjacent · Post by **Knox Adjacent** » 10 Dec 2023 19:02

Day 9
yu-ʈaʈari n. hammer (for pounding)
yu-muŋaɲ n. nail (peg, fastener)

Bit late, blah blah

lurker · Post by **lurker** » 10 Dec 2023 20:56

Dawn of the Tenth Day, 491 Hours Remain

sJK

[yip long high strengthening growl]

Verb
choose, vote for

sJKrnq Literally means paw-choose and means the same as the phrase Vote with one's feet. Freedom of movement and residence is considered an inalienable right in most schools of yinrih political philosophy. In fact, it's considered more fundamental than actual voting. You can find any and all political systems throughout Focus. Hearthside has popular nominations for most political positions, but the ruling clerics have the final say, and they do use that power regularly. The Allied Worlds alone has absolute monarchies, representative democracies, even direct democracies on very small lunar and orbital colonies.

The yinrih take the phrase "If you don't like it, move somewhere else" literally, to the point that countries are expected to help finance both immigrant and emigrant expenses. The idea is that, if you want to live under an absolute monarchy, you're more than welcome to move to one that already exists rather than try to overthrow the government you currently live under. The system of immigrant exchange assistance makes that reachable for even the lower rungs of the socioeconomic ladder.

One of the reasons that the Partisans are considered evil is that they deny this right.

Shemtov · Post by **Shemtov** » 10 Dec 2023 23:57

Day 10:
Saso
/saso/
[saso:]
Noun: Cocoa

Day 11:
La'
/laʔ/
[lɐʔ]
Noun. "Chili Pepper"

Day 12.
Pizpi
/piθpi/
[piθpi]
Noun. "Tomato"

Day 13.
Zaaŋ
/θa:ŋ/
[θɑ:ŋ]
Noun "Coconut"

Day 14.
Maah
/ma:h/
[mä:h]
Noun. "Cooked Rice"

Day 15.
K'ol
/k'ol/
[k'ol]
Noun. "Rice Flour"

Day 16.
'eŋ
/ʔɛŋ/
[ʔɛŋ]
"Raw Rice"

_Just_A_Sketch · Post by **_Just_A_Sketch** » 11 Dec 2023 01:06

shimobaatar wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 12:46 _Just_A_Sketch:
Spoiler:
_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 03:49 'ai'u
nubragau'u /nubɽaɣau̯ʔu/
Noun - class XVII - a facade, an act
Adjective (usually describing a person) - deceptive, two faced

Etymology - from nubra "face" and gau'u "shadow"

_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023 17:31 Hɛlcɛso
keasce - /kea̯st͡ʃe/
Noun - a weapon or tool for hunting, typically referring to a bow

Etymology - from keask "to hunt" and the suffix -ce, denoting a tool used for an action

'ai'u
lheiwa /ɬəi̯ʋa/
Noun - a spear

lheiwalhiu /ɬəi̯ʋaɬiu̯/
Noun - a javelin

Etymology - from lheiwalhiu "spear" and lhiu "air"

_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 16:48 Tsjàta
khotsá /xot͡sɒ˩˥/
Verb - to see

_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑10 Dec 2023 05:14 Hɛlcɛso
Xutimsamaw /ɕutimsamaw/
Noun - inanimate - a pot, bowl, cup, or other container for liquids

Etymology - from xutimsa "container" and maw "water". xutimsa is the customary of xutim "to hold", "to keep". Xutimsamaw literally means "water holder".
Out of the words you've posted for this week, these might be my favorites.

_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑07 Dec 2023 16:48 'ai'u
ikuta'a - /ikutaʔa/
Noun - glass
Adjective - invisible, inconspicuous

Etymology - from iku "rock" and ta'a "light"
I love that this can be used to mean both "glass" and "invisible, inconspicuous".

_Just_A_Sketch wrote: ↑09 Dec 2023 06:19 Hεlcεso
Lεxkokoc /lεʃkɔkɔt͡ʃ/
Noun 2 - thought, idea

Etymology - from lεq "thing" and sokoc (genitive of sok "mind"). Literally "thing of mind"

Lεrkεlyoc /lɛʁkɛljɔt͡ʃ/
Noun 2 - belief, feeling

Etymology - from lεq and relyac (genitive of relya "spirit"). Literally "thing of spirit"

'ai'u
lesekutle /ləʂəkut͡ɬə/
Noun - idea, concept

Etymology - loan from Hεlcεso Lεxkokoc
I like the etymologies of the two Hεlcεso words, as well as the fact that lεxkokoc was borrowed into 'ai'u.

Thank you for all the compliments :D It's been really fun pushing myself to make less "Englishy" words and I'm glad its paid off.

Lexember Day 10
Hεlcεso
saqal /saqal/
Adjective - hungry, poor

Etymology - from saq "food" and -ol, a suffix showing a lack of something, like "-less" in English.

(for anyone who's noticed the lack of Tsjàta and 'ai'u, Ive been shifting most of my focus to Hεlcεso lately. I'm trying to get it to a point where Im ready for a full showcase, hopefully by the end of the month!)

I cant believe we're already a third of the way (ish) through Lexember. Good luck to all of yall :)

Arayaz · Post by **Arayaz** » 11 Dec 2023 03:37

Sunday, Lexember 10

Theme: Food, Cooking, Cuisine, Ingredients, Tastes, Textures, Smells, Odors, Colors, Sensations

Ruykkarraber issa "to cook, to assemble from a large number of components"

Serres adnayg adgas ak, in etedeg issan kra. "While you ruin your friendships, I'll be cooking dinner."
2sg.FRM.3 friend-PL-4 drop-3 during 1sg.1 meal-4 cook-2 FUT

Oh yeah, this is my week. Ruykkarranat cuisine is a very important facet of their culture, along with family and music.
And while I'm starting off with a relatively simple cooking word, buckle in, 'cause later this week it's gettin' much better!

Ælfwine · Post by **Ælfwine** » 11 Dec 2023 07:04

Theme: Food, Cooking, Cuisine, etc.

Modern Gothic
бреэн brejen [ˈb̥rɛːjən]
verb - to roast

Related to Dutch broeien "to heat up," English brew.

(NB: Thanks Shimo!)

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