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I imagine you could continue to. Let's say you have a cleric with two flocks. Wouldn't the members of one flock feel closer to each other than to the members of the other? So they are twins, but not brothers, so-to-speak.
But, it's up to you.
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Lexember 30

Yemya
śvelyasthatś /ɕʋeʎɑstʰɑt͡ɕ/ n. “solstice” literally “sun-standing”. śvelya has been explained on Lexember 25. sthatś from PIE *stéh₂tis “standing, position” this cognate with Greek “στᾰ́σῐς” and Latin “statio” both of which are the second element in the word solstice in those languages.

Yinše
naanam /naːnam/ v.itr. “to feast”
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Shaleyan

Day 26

Inukalish
English (language)
Borrowed from English

Azepha pa Pida yibade Inukalish.
Azepha to Peter teach English
Peter is teaching Azepha English.

Day 27

bushudaph
childhood
bushu, child + -daph, makes a noun that means "the state of being a [noun]"

Had al ba bushudaph dal nila Eli, nidok al sol uku nusukh al.
when 3s.ANIM of childhood about think Ellie remember 3s.ANIM that the_dark frighten 3s.ANIM
When Ellie thinks of her childhood, she remembers how she was afraid of the dark.

Bonus words: uku: the dark

Since I just invented the suffix -daph, here are some more words with it:

zesada (parent) -> zesadadaph (parenthood)
muwa (saint) -> muwadaph (sainthood)
womeyo (adult) -> womeyodaph (adulthood)
mam (mother, Mom) -> mamadaph (motherhood, maternity)
dad (father, Dad) -> dadadaph (fatherhood, paternity)
mikhek (state, province) -> mikhekadaph (statehood)

Day 28

muzum
magic (supernatural), magick

This is the kind of magic shamans, witches, and characters in fantasy novels pull off, not stage magic like The Amazing Randi.

Pakosh Kebasabazob zesada nin peni sol od ba lel bewus muzum mey akanid.
many Kebsabhazian parent NEG want that 3p.ANIM of child read magic with novel
Many Kebsabhazian parents do not want their children reading novels with magic.

Bonus words: Kebasabazob: Kebsabhazian (Kebasabaz, Kebsabhaz + -ob, suffix for demonyms, equivalent to -ian or -ese)
akanid: novel (work of fiction)

New grammar:

Sol [i.e. the intensional "that" conjunction] is also used in constructions like "X wants Y to do Z", or "X needs Y to do Z":

Onala nin peni sol khodez shodu al ba lel komen aliph phomis.
Onala NEG want that dinner before 3s.ANIM of child eat too_much sugar
Onala does not want her kids to eat too much sugar before dinner.

Day 29

ñoduwa
(P) to have a vision; vision (spiritual or prophetic)

Had al kakoy sezen, dohid suwiki ba ñoduwa Shashaya.
when 3s.ANIM wander desert wise suiki of have_a_vision Shashaya
When she was wandering the desert, Shashaya had a vision of a wise suiki.

Bonus words: kakoy (T): to wander (transitive)
dohid: wise
dohidakh: wisdom (dohid + -akh, suffix that makes abstract nouns out of adjectives)

A suiki is a tree-dwelling Shaleyan creature with fur, equivalent perhaps to a monkey or a sloth, but it doesn't have a tail, so maybe a bit baboon-like.

Day 30

ziduhadash
tattoo parlor
zidu, tattoo + hadash, shop, store

Shaleya an ziduhadash poloy nin bobaze deshi.
Shaleya in tattoo_parlor tattoo NEG have_a_problem_with teen-ager
Tattoo parlors in Shaleya don't have a problem with tattooing teen-agers.

Bonus words: poloy: (T) to tattoo, to ink; ink
bobaze: (H) to have a problem with (doing something)
ahakh: (T) to be objected to by Al ba shahaba lishan ahakh od. They had a problem with his baggy clothes.
♂♥♂♀

Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

My Kankonian-English dictionary: 90,000 words and counting

31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
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LCV Categories for Week 6:

On this one-day week, our theme is "One, Unity, Singularity".

There are no categories in the Landau Core Vocabulary that correspond to that theme. So instead, I'm going to list a number of individual words from the LCV that match the topic of uno.

one (when counting, reciting phone number, etc.)
eleven
first
eleventh
whole (fraction)
the one (~ you love)
one (one of them, e.g. I want ~)
one (one of them, e.g. the black ~)
one (this ~, that ~, which ~)
one (thing)
one (person)
one, some (~ happy day; ~ cold winter night)
one (one of two: from ~ end to the other)
only (determiner)
just, only, alone (exclusively: only for paying members)
only, just (it’s ~ a cat)
only, just (~ a few minutes ago)
only (barely enough: it costs $10 and I ~ have $10.09)
only (not enough: it costs $10 and I ~ have $8.50)
only (for no other reason, in no other situation: Pam is ~ coming for the food)
only (merely: Greg was ~ 17 when he died)
once (on one occasion: I only had an accident ~)
once (routinely: Kim cleans house ~ a month)
only child
alone
single (only one: it took a ~ day)
single (as opposed to double, triple, etc.)
singular (adjective)
singular (form)
singular (word in the singular form)
unique
union
to unite (join together)
to unite, to bring together
to unite (intransitive)
unit (~ of money)
unit (of a textbook)
uniform
uniform (for school)
uniform (military)
unicorn
God (with a capital G)
solo (noun – of vocalist)
solo (noun – of instrumentalist)
solo (adjective: ~ artist)
♂♥♂♀

Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels

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Lexember 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30

áng4ma2 n pl habit, habits (from áng4 'action')
se1ki2 áng4ma2 n customs (from se1ki2 'folk, people', and above)
rën3 n thought
lèr2ang4 v to follow, to chase, to trail, to be behind
ôc1ang2 v to obey, to follow [of a religious figure]
i3hay4 n knowledge, a fact
pra1 n change
phyün1 [S] pra1 to change
Spoiler:
My minicity is [http://zyphrazia.myminicity.com/xml]Zyphrazia and [http://novland.myminicity.com/xml]Novland.

Minicity has fallen :(
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Thursday, Lexember 28

Theme: Culture, Ideas, Philosophy, Beliefs, Customs

Ruykkarraber etukri “heart and soul”

Inus etukri Ruykkarraberen issayr. “I crafted Ruykkarraber with all my heart and soul.”
1sg.3 heart.and.soul Ruykkarra-language-2 craft-PST
  • This is formed from the noun ukri, which already has a fairly hefty meaning ─ one’s “complete self,” or more generically, “body.” I’m pretty sure it’s related to reflexives but I don’t remember how.
  • The prefix et- (which can also be realized as te-) is my favorite prefix in any of the conlangs I’ve made. Its meaning is very varied, but is somewhere around a collective, with an implication of importance and/or variety. It turns ede “food” into etede “feast,” issa “to create” into etissa “to innovate,” dus “bee” into tedus “beehive,” garri “outcome” into tegarri “with many possible outcomes,” radye “to percieve” into teradye “to understand,” and sik “bug” into tesik “affliction” (which can also be a curse; see day 24).

Friday, Lexember 29

Theme: Culture, Ideas, Philosophy, Beliefs, Customs

Ruykkarraber tetidak “exotic, foreign; wild, outlandish”

Be tetidakes intar. “That’s an outlandish [idea] ...”
3sg.1 outlandish-3 as-COP
  • Using more of the et- / te- prefix here! This is formed from tidak “other, different.”

Saturday, Lexember 30

Theme: Culture, Ideas, Philosophy, Beliefs, Customs

Ruykkarraber ikabridsak “earthy, vulgar, unrefined, impolite”

Inus kubray nuyn andis, denateg ikabridsakes intar ban. “I like my friends, but there’s one who’s very ... rude.”
1sg.3 pal-PL 1sg.2 please / only.one-4 unrefined-3 as-COP but
  • Also means “coarsely ground” ─ it’s related to seksak “ground and fermented.”
  • This “friend” signed onto my discord account and almost got me banned from a few servers, so... this sentence is in their honor.

Sunday, Lexember 31

Theme: One, Unity, Singularity

Ruykkarraber de “one”

Den in yuridir. “I found one.”
one-2 1sg.1 find-PST
  • I am intentionally being as uninteresting as possible for the last day of Lexember.
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Play

peu, to cooperate, be united, bring parts into a whole. This is from MRCA puli and is a regular sound change. It can change to /pau/ to obey a vowel harmony rule that is triggered when another /a/ follows.

And I've answered the question I posed myself a few posts upthread, where I was wondering why one word I'd come up with had v (IPA /w/) in place of the expected sequence -up-. I realize now that it's because Play shifted the sequence /lw/ to /w/ twice, with the second instance of the shift occuring only in freshly coined compounds which had been missed by the first. This would not happen often, however. And because in the meantime the /w/ created by the first shift had changed to another sound (usually /b/), these two shifts have different outcomes. Thus, the word I recorded as vaivās earlier should either be vaipās (if the compound is old) or vayupās (if the compound greatly post-dates both shifts). Since analogy is common in Play, even newly created compounds can obey old sound change rules. Therefore I plan to use vaipās as the word for a boarding school located far from town, such that it needs its own town-like fortifications.
Makapappi nauppakiba.
The wolf-sheep ate itself. (Play)
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Day 31

Hannaito (Entry 31):

süni /sɯᵝni/ [ˈsɨᵝ.ɲi]
Numeral:
1. one
Noun:
1. individual
2. solo; a performance by a single person
3. the digit 1
4. a one-year-old person or animal
5. something that has existed for a single year
6. the first year (or hour, day, month, etc.) of a given period or since a given event

Etymology
From Proto-Hannaitoan *suwñiy "one". Cognates include Gampyo hūngī "one; an indefinite article" and Fiigarazg süünyi "one".

Now that we're beginning the 6th & final "week" of Lexember 2023, I've taken some time to read through and comment on what other participants have posted so far for Week 5. I won't necessarily comment on every single entry, but hopefully I haven't accidentally missed anyone's work entirely. Following qwed117's example from three years ago, I'm going to try to do this after every week. Of course, "Week 6" is actually just a single day. A few days into the new year, I'll try to make another post here in the thread including, among other things, some comments on other participants' December 31st entries.

Pabappa:
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Pabappa wrote: 25 Dec 2023 12:03 ŋupa, an economic system, from MRCA ŋup ga, something to do with natural resources, but whose meaning I havent defined yet. It's likely that it will refer to some very specific tangible food item and only in Play does the meaning broaden to include natural resources as a whole.
I like this a lot, even if the specifics haven't been fully nailed down yet.
Pabappa wrote: 25 Dec 2023 12:03 tinuŋupa, communism, at least as I define it in my writing. The MRCA etymology is gam mbinu, to reach outside, and it still retains that meaning in Play when used outside the context of economics. As in our world, the philosophy I call communism in my writing is very complex and can't be succinctly described in just a single word, but this is the name that its earliest promoters chose because it refers to a system in which economic enterprises must *reach outside* their own capacities to cooperate with those in similar and in different lines of work, and implies that this is voluntary on their part rather than being forced by the government.
Ah, that makes sense.
Pabappa wrote: 25 Dec 2023 12:03 I also came up with a playful translation, Pimmappāsi Tinupāsi Mivāsipeu , for the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. No such name will exist in my writing, but the individual words will. Here I've used pimmap "committee" to mean soviet, and the word for socialist means "succeeding by reaching out", with the /pāsi/ suffix that also appears on the previous word. The last word means an alliance (peu) of independent nations (miva); the /:si/ part is a combining form of /šeŋi/ (which rarely appears on its own) and also appears in the /pāsi/ morpheme (pa + šeŋi).
Fun!
Pabappa wrote: 27 Dec 2023 10:25 This is not the only type of school: a capitalist school system is one which pays its students a salary for doing their schoolwork, and in return the students are bound by contract for the rest of their lives to repay the school a large fraction of their salary for the education that helped them receive their job; they are also bound to the school in other ways, and some capitalist schools compel adult graduates to return to the school as teachers, the benefit of this being that they no longer need to pay the bulk of their salary back to the school.
Whoa!
Pabappa wrote: 28 Dec 2023 10:17 Play tamem, a shoe. From MRCA ndan min, which evolves to Play /tami/, plus the clothing classifier suffix which causes mutation of /i/ > /em/. min in MRCA meant "leg; river; worm" and I haven't decided yet whether the common theme is things that move or things that are long and narrow. ndan might mean a protective covering, particularly one on the bottom of something, as Im certain the people had sandals before they had shoes.
I'm very found of the connection between "leg", "river", and "worm", regardless of what the precise nature of that connection may end up being.
Pabappa wrote: 29 Dec 2023 15:15 Plum yabi, a school. The oblique stem of this is řai- ... for the past few days instead of working on Play I've been working on regularizing the chaotic stem alternations inherited by its neighbor spoken just to the east (and eventually ending up within Play territory). Play and Plum are only distantly related genetically, but are intimately connected by culture. Indeed, I've chosen the name Plum specifically to highlight its closeness to Play; it is not a translation of a cultural endonym nor even an exonym that other groups used to refer to them. Their native name was Yaři, but this name has no meaning to me (it's just a word-gen output), and I might change it since tribes in their area typically chose names that were meaningful to outsiders.
Interesting! If I might ask, how is <ř> pronounced here?
Pabappa wrote: 30 Dec 2023 14:20 For a long time, the Play word for "teach" has been derived from MRCA /huki/, which had no further etymology. Recently, word-gen output gave me /yukik/ as one word (among many) for student, and I decided to rework the etymologies of both words to tie them together. I ended up retiring both words, however, and replacing them with derivatives of the MRCA word for eye, /uḳi/. This is probably a plural, which if so binds the words I'm deriving to the Play clade only. Nonetheless,

Play

pi, the eye. This is not a standalone word for eye but is recognized when used in compounds.
pisa, to show; to teach; to make someone see. From MRCA uḳi hi na, where the last two morphemes were originally free but evolved into verb extenders and then into a fused fossil morpheme.
pītu, to learn; to begin to see. From MRCA uḳi hatu, the last morpheme probably from pre-MRCA /hi atu/, making it cognate to the above. Likewise this /hatu/ affix is not productive in Play, but will survive in more than just this one word family.

This also leads me to join the very long-standing Play word pīs "scout; to follow, track, chase", which was originally from MRCA piha, into this word family as well, perhaps simply unifying it with pītu (since there are other words for student) or perhaps making it /pītu/ plus a further suffix I will choose when the time comes.
Excellent!
Iyionaku:
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Iyionaku wrote: 24 Dec 2023 11:36 vetplata [vəˈplaːtɐ] - to neglect (a person), to disregard so.'s duty of care
Etymology: vet "dirty" + plata "to care (for)"

fedenia [ɸəˈdeːnɪ̯ɐ] - to neglect (thing, plan), to delay, to put off, to procrastinate
Etymology: fe- "distant" + denia "to plan", as in "to plan something but for a long distant time"
I like this distinction!
Iyionaku wrote: 24 Dec 2023 11:36 Siy parcas yianralitas a'mapeli téviter quadvetplatvit to avárani náfia. Pured yifedenái æ'denial, èpa nat yirirai citeʻa ciyiutpilatbet met an'avárviauatsan.
[sa̯iː ˈpaɾkɐʃ ɕɪ̯ɐnɾɐˈtiːtɐʃ ɐmɐˈpeːlɨ ˈteːʋɨtəd̟ kɐdveˈplatvɨt to ɐˈʋaːɾɐni ˈnaːɸɪɐ̯. ˈpuːɾed̟ ɕɨɸədəˈnaɪ̯ əˈdeːnɪ̯ɐl ˈɛpɐ nɐt ɕɨˈɾiːɾaɪ̯ kɨˈteːʔɐ kɨɕɪ̯ʉˈpiːlɐbət met ɐnɐˈʋarvɪ̯aʊ.ɐt͡sɐn]
before moon PST-NEC-visit-JUS.1SG DEF.ANIM=family REL.ANIM.3SG.MASC allegedly-neglect-COND.3SG.ANIM 3SG.MASC.POSS cat-PL-ENUM nine | however PST-neglect-1SG DEF.CONC=planning, and when PST-ring-1SG nobody NEG-PST-at_home_COP.3SG.PST except DEF.ANIM=cat-PL-meow-ADZ-PL
Yesterday I had to visit the family that allegedly neglects their nine cats. But I neglected the planning, and when I rang at the door nobody was home - except the meowing cats.
I'm not sure if it's supposed to be, but this is very funny to me. I can't help but feel a bit bad for these imaginary, allegedly neglected cats, though… [:P]
Iyionaku wrote: 25 Dec 2023 15:22 færnaûl [ˌɸœɾnɐ.ˈuːl] - martyr
Etymology: new root; purposefully created with rare characters (in Yélian) such as f, æ, and û; with the latter there are only three roots in my entire lexicon that use it.

Irregular plural: færnúin
Excellent!
Iyionaku wrote: 25 Dec 2023 15:22 A'logor yinakolkit, cut can renut robipavinquet bats færnaûl.
[ɐˈlo:gɔ̈d̟ ɕɨnɐˈkolkɨt, kʉt‿an ˈɾeːnʉt ɾɔ̈ˌbiːpɐˈviŋkə‿bat͡s ˌfœɾnɐ.ˈuːl]
DEF.ANIM=prophet PST-burn_to_death-INV.3SG.ANIM, but for 1PLEX.OBL FUT-be_remembered-3SG being martyr
The prophet was burnt to death, but for us he will live on as a martyr.
I like the sound of this whole sentence. logor for "prophet" makes me think of this, as well as "god" thanks to [-gɔ̈d̟] in the IPA transcription.
Iyionaku wrote: 26 Dec 2023 15:55 fadgúvenal [fɐˈduːʋənɐl] - last will and testament [Southern Standard]
guvodabato [ˈguː̥ʋɔ̈dɐˌbaːto] - last will and testament [Northern Standard]

Etymology I: fad- "terminative prefix" + gúvenal "writing"
Etymology II: guvod "piece of writing" + abato "last"
I apologize for nitpicking, but did you intend for there to be a ring below the first length marker in the IPA transcription of guvodabato? In any case, I like how these words look and sound!
Iyionaku wrote: 28 Dec 2023 14:16 aleasé [ɐˌleː.ɐˈseː] - awareness, attention; spotlight; prerequisite, precondition; attention to detail; side-note
Etymology: from alea "to shine brightly" + nominalizer -sé
Iyionaku wrote: 28 Dec 2023 14:16 áblara [ˈaːblɐɾɐ] - to manifest (a thought); to solidify; to realize (a contract, an undertaking, etc.); to bring sth. to production; to make sth. real
Etymology: from abla "net, network"

Desiý rotyáblarest vat nutócquet on'aiprès, roianáblaraven æn'aleasé o'báriærnaun o'dasaun cluvat.
[dəˈsa̯iː ɾɔ̈ˈt͡ʃablɐɾəst vɐt nʉˈtoːkət ɔ̈naɪ̯ˈpɾɛs, ɾɔ̈.ɪ̯ɐˈnablɐɾɐʋən ənɐˌleː.ɐˈseː ɔ̈ˈbaːɾɪ̯əɾnaʊ̯n ɔ̈ˈdaːsaʊ̯n ˈkluːʋɐt]
before FUT-POT-realize-1PLEX DEM route-new DEF.GEN=trade, FUT-NEC-make_real-JUS.1PLEX DEF.CONC=awareness DEF.GEN=property-PL DEF.GEN=people-PL alongside=DEM
Before we can realize this new trading route, we have to raise awareness of the cultural properties of the peoples alongside it.

New word for the example sentence:

nutóc [nʉˈtoːk] - route
Etymology: portmanteau from nut "way, path" + mosóc "recipe; shopping list"
These are great as well!
Iyionaku wrote: 29 Dec 2023 15:41 staûnafi [stɐ.uːˈnaːɸɨ] - respect, recognition, legitimation, also: authentication (IT)
Etymology: from staû "power, force" + rare nominalizer -afi plus an epenthetic -n-
It's fun that this can also be used to mean that sort of "authentication".
Iyionaku wrote: 29 Dec 2023 15:41 staûbag [stɐ.ˈuːbɐg] - ambitious; power-hungry
Etymology: from staû "power, force" + bag "hungry"
Nice! I'm also a fan of staû and bag by themselves.
lurker:
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lurker wrote: 24 Dec 2023 18:08 Used in the profane expression <L rLPqp rnLqCqCbb> "Light blind [you/it]!" loosely "[God] damn it!"

A derived expression is:

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L   rLPq-p       RnL-qCq-Cb-b         rjqdB-Mr      rpMr
may light-3.DIST not-see-CAUSITIVE 0, memory-3.PROX happy
Happy memories, damn it! 
This could be translated loosely (and very ironically) as "fun for the whole family", which is an even loftier promise given that yinrih families consist of up to twelve genetic parents (six male sires and six female dams) and a litter of pups, of equal or greater number than the parents, so around 24 individuals give or take. More broadly the expression means something like "mandatory fun".
Wow!
lurker wrote: 26 Dec 2023 00:18 Some more religious vocabulary today, sort of adjacent to the season. I wanted the yinrih to link the soul to something other than the traditional human notion of breath. ("spirit" and "animate" both originally had to do with breathing). Since the yinrih's visual spectrum drops down to the level of infrared radiation, I figure they'd link the soul to the soft glow of body heat. Yinrih actually run a bit hotter than humans, just as dogs do. They also require about 100 extra Calories per day compared to a human, also just like dogs.
Neat!
lurker wrote: 27 Dec 2023 02:08 Plq (to dig), Plq-cdr-g (a shovel)
CDq (to hold), CDq-cdr-g (a holder)
qKq (to split), qKq-cdr-g (an axe)
rgJ (to stab), rgJ-cdr-g (a knoif)
rnq-g (paw), rnq-cdr-g (handle, pedal, [pawdle?])
"pawdle" is great.
lurker wrote: 27 Dec 2023 02:08 Cabling spaced at regular intervals stretched across wide thoroughfares in orbital colonies to allow residents to pull themselves along or to stop people getting stranded in the middle of the hallway out of reach of the sides. (If you've seen Gravity you know this isn't a trivial thing.) To a human this makes the large pedestrian malls common on yinrih orbital colonies look like a monkey habitat at the zoo, rather apropos for monkey foxes.
This is a delightful image.
lurker wrote: 27 Dec 2023 02:08 PS Happy Boxing Day/St Stephen's Day.
A belated Happy Boxing Day & St. Stephen's Day to you, too!
lurker wrote: 28 Dec 2023 02:32 sfcPLg

[yip, short falling strong whine, long falling weakening grunt, short low weak growl]

Etymology
from sfc (pup, child) + -PL (suffix forming collective nouns)

1. a litter of yinrih children regardless of age
2. (The Bright Way) a congregation lead by a particular hearthkeeper, used in a similar manner as English "flock".

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pM  sbrP-rmK-g               snp-g        qbf  qF     rNlr-0    sfc-PL-P                H-rLPq-K
OBL custodian-hearth-3.INDEF holy.3.INDEF if   merely good.AUTH child-COLLECTIVE-3.DIST none-light.DOG
A hearthkeeper must be a saint. If she is merely decent, her litter shall be godless.
A hearthkeeper (cleric) is forbidden from entering into a childermoot (group of yinrih parents). Her congregation is considered her litter. The traditional explanation is that a cleric must devote all her time to tending the star hearth and performing other sacerdotal duties. Cynics will tell you its because the hierarchy doesn't want to pay a larger salary to account for her having pups to feed.
Interesting!
lurker wrote: 30 Dec 2023 00:11 Yinrih don't cry in the same way humans do. Instead of tears, they have a red fluid that is secreted from the mouth. It looks a lot scarier than it actually is. Much like other bodily excretions the yinrih produce, it's highly aromatic. Humans compare it to the smell of sea spray. The strong red color and smell are thought to be social signals indicating very strong emotion. Yinrih cry in the same situations that humans do, when sad, scared, or very happy.
Is this fluid a similar shade of red to human blood? Even though the smell should make the two substances fairly easy to distinguish regardless of the visual similarity, I could still imagine the first human to see a yinrih "cry" being rather alarmed and confused.
lurker wrote: 30 Dec 2023 18:47 Dawn of The Thirtieth Day. 36 Hours Remain
lurker wrote: 30 Dec 2023 18:47 I've been using Wolfram Alpha to get the number of hours from now til the end of the month in order to do my titles. I just found out that it's actually interpreting "end of the month" as the beginning of new year's eve, not the beginning of new year's day. I should have been adding 24 hours to the times. Oh well.
Huh, I feel like that's an odd way for it to interpret "end of the month" by default. In any case, even if they've been 24 hours off from what you intended, I've appreciated getting to see these times in your posts throughout the month.
lurker wrote: 30 Dec 2023 18:47 strictly speaking, this should be closer to "male fraternal twin" and "female fraternal twin" as the relationship implies hatching from the same womb-nest, but twins are a rare phenomenon among humans whereas yinrih litters scale based on the number of sires and dams who contribute eggs to the womb-nest. The relationship among litter mates is pretty close to that of human siblings, so I think it fits.
To make sure I understand, when you refer to "the relationship among litter mates", do you mean the genetic relationship, the social relationship, or both?
Shemtov:
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Shemtov wrote: 25 Dec 2023 05:52 Day 24:
Weid
/we:d/
[weɪð]
Noun:
1. Common Knowledge
2. A concept in Zeigouŋdeizese Religion that may be freely rendered as "The Self-Evident Universal Truth and Knowledge".
3. Common sense
I like the look and sound of this word.
Shemtov wrote: 25 Dec 2023 05:52 Note: the fact that these words end in -zi was a coincidence of my word creating process, but I think I now have an agentive nomalizing suffix, and these words come from Julu "To expound; To teach publicly" and Alzi "to communicate with the divine", a Hic'agese loan that is a doublet of native Alhi "To dream"
Shemtov wrote: 25 Dec 2023 05:52 Note: the fact that these words end in -im was a coincidence of my word creating process, but I think I now have an abstract noun suffix -(i)m, Aat meaning "To be conscious" and Yuji being an older word for "to layer"
Excellent!
Shemtov wrote: 25 Dec 2023 05:52 Day 30.
Łiin
Noun
/ɬi:n/
[ɬi:n]
1. The Trinity of highest knowable deities in Zeigouŋdeizese Religion: Father, Mother and Child.
2. Title added to the name of the three deities that make up Definition 1
Note: Loan from Hanese /li:n˥/ "Deity", as the concept of the highest deities being a Trinity of Father, Mother and Child is borrowed from Hanese religion, though in Hanese religion, there were two Trinities: One Patriarchal with a son as Child, and the other Matriarchal, with a daughter as Child. In Zeigouŋdeizese Religion, though is only one such trinity, and the gender of the Child is "Unknowable" or "Both Male and Female", depending on the "Denomination" of said Religion.
The High Tone in the Hanese source word is why the word begins with /ɬ/, not /l/, as the Hanese dialects most in contact with speakers of the Peninsular-Serelian branch of Waanic had [l̥] or [ll̥] (more precisely, [ ̬l̥]) as an allophone of /l/ in high-tone syllables.

I am currently working on a post or series of posts on Zeigouŋdeizese Religion to be posted in the conworlding part of the forum
Very interesting!
Arayaz:
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Arayaz wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:07 Ruykkarraber sbur “(old and) wise”

Iddu sbures in taren ag; be tesik turegkasskis in tar! “Iddu isn’t wise, he’s a f*cking woodworker!”
Iddu wise-3 as COP-2 NEG / 3sg.AN.1 plagued wood-4-alter-AGN.AN as COP
  • A bit more characterization for Iddu, one of my three characters in Ruykkarra.
  • I’m guessing Tek said this sentence; she’s a medium-close relative of Ruya’s, who is Iddu’s partner.
  • I also got to invent an expletive for this, so that’s fun.
Oh, fun indeed! I really like the look and sound of sbur. To clarify, are these characters you've come up with solely to use in example sentences?
Arayaz wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:07 Ruykkarraber garri “fate, destiny, ultimate outcome”

Serres-krasu garri dabites in tar. “Your fate is unlikely to change.”
2sg.FRM-3-approach fate unbending-3 as COP
  • One’s garri is not quite their English “fate,” but rather the ultimate state that they will settle out into. The Ruykkarranat conceptualization of a person’s life is not unlike a plot diagram, and one’s garri is simply what their life will be like when everything calms down.
Arayaz wrote: 28 Dec 2023 04:13 Ruykkarraber naday “hungry; sparse; worthless”

Serre nadayn kiyurid. “You all are looking for something worthless.”
2frm.1 worthless-2 partial-find
  • In philosophy or thinking, if a problem is naday, it’s not worth thinking about.
Arayaz wrote: 28 Dec 2023 04:13 Ruykkarraber tegarri “with many possible outcomes”

Serre serres bet resid tegarri in taren tunnin teradye? “Do you understand that your life could go many ways?”
2frm.1 2frm.3 INAL future many.outcomes as COP-2 ABIL-2 understand
  • Somewhat the opposite of naday, though not quite, this word can be used of something that is undecided or could go many ways.
Neat!
Arayaz wrote: 31 Dec 2023 08:15 Ruykkarraber etukri “heart and soul”

Inus etukri Ruykkarraberen issayr. “I crafted Ruykkarraber with all my heart and soul.”
1sg.3 heart.and.soul Ruykkarra-language-2 craft-PST
  • This is formed from the noun ukri, which already has a fairly hefty meaning ─ one’s “complete self,” or more generically, “body.” I’m pretty sure it’s related to reflexives but I don’t remember how.
  • The prefix et- (which can also be realized as te-) is my favorite prefix in any of the conlangs I’ve made. Its meaning is very varied, but is somewhere around a collective, with an implication of importance and/or variety. It turns ede “food” into etede “feast,” issa “to create” into etissa “to innovate,” dus “bee” into tedus “beehive,” garri “outcome” into tegarri “with many possible outcomes,” radye “to percieve” into teradye “to understand,” and sik “bug” into tesik “affliction” (which can also be a curse; see day 24).
Arayaz wrote: 31 Dec 2023 08:15 Ruykkarraber tetidak “exotic, foreign; wild, outlandish”

Be tetidakes intar. “That’s an outlandish [idea] ...”
3sg.1 outlandish-3 as-COP
  • Using more of the et- / te- prefix here! This is formed from tidak “other, different.”
Excellent!
Khemehekis:
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Khemehekis wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:51 dakhanazakhi
cult
dakh, leader + nazakhi, religion

Keyob wukhin khanap yana ba pomasash leday dakhanazakhi.
islander develop blue skin of visitor based_on cult
The islanders developed a cult around the visitor with blue skin.

Bonus words: keyob: islander (key, island + -ob, equivalent to -ese or -ian)
pomasash: visitor (pomas, to visit + -ash, agent noun suffix)
Khemehekis wrote: 31 Dec 2023 06:43 ziduhadash
tattoo parlor
zidu, tattoo + hadash, shop, store
I quite like the look & sound of dakhanazakhi, keyob, and hadash in particular.
Khemehekis wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:51 one Shaleyan woman named Nanida Mesoshabaz (whose surname translates as "black bark" in Shaleyan)
A lovely name!
Khemehekis wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:51 when speaking about politics, the words "left" and "right" have the opposite meaning from their meanings in Terran languages like English and French. How did this come to be? It all started with a Nolan-type chart of moral beliefs, the Mesoshabaz Chart.
Khemehekis wrote: 26 Dec 2023 04:51 Nanida Mesoshabaz chose the top:objective morality/bottom:no objective morality scheme because traditionalists and Lockeans, at the top, believed that morality came from above, from a higher power, while social conformists and moral relativists did not.

But why did she choose the right:permissive/left:restrictive scheme? Shaleyans, like other humans, are usually right-handed. When Mesoshabaz pictured "taking an ideology" with one's hand, she pictured someone reaching out her right hand, as was more instinctive for right-handed people.
This is a fun idea. The reasoning behind it makes sense to me, and it seems like you've put a lot of thought into it.
Khemehekis wrote: 31 Dec 2023 06:43 ñoduwa
(P) to have a vision; vision (spiritual or prophetic)

Had al kakoy sezen, dohid suwiki ba ñoduwa Shashaya.
when 3s.ANIM wander desert wise suiki of have_a_vision Shashaya
When she was wandering the desert, Shashaya had a vision of a wise suiki.

Bonus words: kakoy (T): to wander (transitive)
dohid: wise
dohidakh: wisdom (dohid + -akh, suffix that makes abstract nouns out of adjectives)

A suiki is a tree-dwelling Shaleyan creature with fur, equivalent perhaps to a monkey or a sloth, but it doesn't have a tail, so maybe a bit baboon-like.
Neat!
spanick:
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spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yemya
yajna /jɑʝnɑ/ n. “sacrifice, worship” this is one of the main rituals performed by the priestly school of the Taivtha religion. These rituals are performed by the yaśthor /jɑɕtʰor/ (priests).

One notable example of a yajna is the jayayajna /ʝɑjɑjɑʝnɑ/ in which a horse is sacrificed to the god Tśau Phatar.

I’ve posted some details about Taivthaism, the religion of the Yemya before here: viewtopic.php?p=289569#p289569. I suspect this week will be a jumping off point for adding more to this post.
Excellent! I assume these are derived from *h₁yaǵ-? I'll have to remember to check out the thread you've linked.
spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yinše
šaa’ /ʃaːʔ/ stative verb “to be holy; to be sacred”
Lovely! Seeing this made me want to come up with a word meaning "holy", among other things, for one of my entries this past week as well. [:)]
spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yemya
śvelya /ɕʋeʎɑ/ n. “sun” one of the śnasura, nature spirits and gods that take a second at role in Taivthaism. In Gaitha Horra, is portrayed as a goddess, the daughter of Tśau Phatar and Phutśauya Mater but in later traditions, Śvelya is conceived as male. As a male deity, śvelya is sometimes called śokh Phatar “the eye of the Father”. Through synecdoche, sometimes identified with Tśau Phatar. From PIE *sh₂wél-(i)-yos thus cognate to Surya and Helios.
spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yemya
nyatha /ɲɑtʰɑ/ n. “behavior; ethics” from PIE *niH-tó-s itself from *neyH-
spanick wrote: 31 Dec 2023 04:28 Yemya
śvelyasthatś /ɕʋeʎɑstʰɑt͡ɕ/ n. “solstice” literally “sun-standing”. śvelya has been explained on Lexember 25. sthatś from PIE *stéh₂tis “standing, position” this cognate with Greek “στᾰ́σῐς” and Latin “statio” both of which are the second element in the word solstice in those languages.
Fantastic! I really like how <ny ly> /ɲ ʎ/ fit into the overall aesthetic of Yemya.
spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yinše
šaša’oš /ʃaʃaʔoʃ/ n. “spirit, ghost” not used in the sense of “soul” or “life source”from a reduplicated form of šaa’ plus the nominalizing suffix .
spanick wrote: 28 Dec 2023 03:18 Yinše
poroporoš /poɾopoɾoʃ/ “bead” reduplicated form of poro “to be round” plus the nominalizer .
I'm very fond of how these reduplicated words sound.
spanick wrote: 26 Dec 2023 16:04 Yinše
k’aa /kʼaː/ n. 1. self 2. life-source 3. soul

k’aahaš /kʼaːhaʃ/ n. “transcendent source of being” literally something like “the one-self” or “the one-soul”. This should not be understood as “god” in the Abrahamic sense as k’aahaš is not understood as being a creator or even necessarily conscious. Rather, it is more of a principle and rather passive/static in nature. The analogy is often that of a spring from which flows water and all living creatures need the water to live.
Interesting! Is the resemblance between k’aa and ka a coincidence?
spanick wrote: 28 Dec 2023 03:18 Yemya
batra /bɑtɾɑ/ n. “excellence; moral excellence, virtue” from PIE *bʰed-ró-s from the root *bʰed- “to improve, make better” thus ultimately related to English “better”.
spanick wrote: 29 Dec 2023 01:32 Yemy
kraiśa /kɾaiɕɑ/ n. “trade, commerce, the buying and selling of goods”

krina /krinɑ/ v. “to engage in trade; to engage in commerce; to buy and sell

kraiśthor /kraiɕtʰor/ n. “merchant, trader”

All three ultimately from PIE *kʷreyh₂- “to buy”.'
Wonderful!
spanick wrote: 29 Dec 2023 01:32 Yinše
šoomaš /ʃoːmaʃ/
n. “wine; alcohol”
v.itr. “to drink wine” becomes transitive with the comitative applicative ‘u- to form ‘ušoomaš “to drink wine together with someone”

Wine is primarily used in a social, ritual context rather than as a regular form of drink. Šoomaš is a rare instance where the verb seems to be derived directly from the noun, since both forms have the common -š suffix. In world, of unknown origin, likely a borrowing. In real life, inspired by the Vedic ritual drink sóma.
Very cool!
spanick wrote: 29 Dec 2023 23:26 Yemya
nauthaśratha /nautʰɑɕrɑtʰɑ/ n. “funeral; post mortem death ritual” literally “death-rite” from nautha “death” from the PIE root *neh₂w- “to die” plus -eh₂ and śratha “order; way; rite” from PIE *h₂r̥-tós.

The most common form of funerary rite is śastaiyatś /ɕɑstaijɑt͡ɕ/ (mummification) for the poor, often a simple thatś /tʰɑt͡ɕ/ (burial) is the only option with the hope that the arid climate will naturally mummify the corpse. The śvana (monks) have the custom of exhuming the mummy and performing śaiyatś (cremation) after a year.
Fascinating!
spanick wrote: 29 Dec 2023 23:26 Yinše
’ič’iinæ /ʔit͡ʃiːnæ/ v.tr. “to marry someone”
This is another great word! Also, I'm sorry to nitpick, but is the affricate here an ejective? I'd assume so, based on the spelling, but it's not always easy to spot /ʼ/ after /t͡ʃ/ in IPA transcriptions.
spanick wrote: 31 Dec 2023 04:28 Yinše
naanam /naːnam/ v.itr. “to feast”
Nice! This reminds me of "naan".
conlang-creature:
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conlang-creature wrote: 28 Dec 2023 04:59 Pananarmodfeja - 24th Day
nohhet - marry*

Kelo-djon Jala-bhon jenq narfeja nohhet babanq.
kelo-djon jala-bhon jenq nar-feja nohhet baba-nq
[tree-hunt]** [fish-care] after 3-days marry FUT-3PL
Keldo will marry Sabbo in three days.

*This word is a little more specific than the English one. It specifies the marriage celebration itself. Wanting to marry someone or being married is one of the many uses of the word bhot.
I like the specificity here. If I might ask, is there a particular reason why the names Kelo-djon and Jala-bhon end up as "Keldo" and "Sabbo" in the English translation?
conlang-creature wrote: 28 Dec 2023 04:59 **Looks like I'm finally using names. Names in Poffan (undecided on that name) culture are made in two parts. The first part, assigned at birth by one's parents, can be just about any noun. They often match in gender, but this isn't a requirement. The second part is a verb, communally decided based off of something the person is good at. This part is decided upon when a child reaches adulthood. In all, a name literally means "an X that Ys". The names I've chosen here I imagine becoming the Bob and Jane kinds of names for this world. The nouns are common objects that are gender matched. Furthermore all men should hunt well, and all women should be caring. In practice, names with these verbs could denote extra skill too.
To clarify, when you say that things match in gender, does this language have grammatical gender, or is it just that these nouns refer to things which are culturally associated with certain gender roles?
qwed117:
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qwed117 wrote: 31 Dec 2023 07:07 áng4ma2 n pl habit, habits (from áng4 'action')
se1ki2 áng4ma2 n customs (from se1ki2 'folk, people', and above)
rën3 n thought
lèr2ang4 v to follow, to chase, to trail, to be behind
ôc1ang2 v to obey, to follow [of a religious figure]
i3hay4 n knowledge, a fact
pra1 n change
phyün1 [S] pra1 to change
Awesome!
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Visions1 wrote: 31 Dec 2023 01:59 I imagine you could continue to. Let's say you have a cleric with two flocks. Wouldn't the members of one flock feel closer to each other than to the members of the other? So they are twins, but not brothers, so-to-speak.
But, it's up to you.
What I meant was that I was trying to avoid kinship metaphors, but using "litter" as "flock" or "congregation" makes it hard not to.

But anyway...
Dawn of The Thirty First Day. 18 Hours Remain

rjHr-HG-g

[chuff, early falling strengthening growl, chuff, long low strengthening growl, short low weak growl]

Etymology
rjHr (to howl, to sing, to pray public ally) + -HG (an act or event of)

Noun
1. a song
2. one of the three daily liturgies of The Bright Way

Wayfarers are required to assist at at least one daily liturgy during their 11-day active period. Which day and which liturgy within that day is up to the individual or family, and different communities have different ways to fulfill the obligation.

Like the western breviary/liturgy of the hours, the three liturgies are named for the time of day that they are said.

Yay I did it! 31 days and 31 lexemes (although not necessarily new morphemes)
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shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 Is this fluid a similar shade of red to human blood? Even though the smell should make the two substances fairly easy to distinguish regardless of the visual similarity, I could still imagine the first human to see a yinrih "cry" being rather alarmed and confused.
The fluid looks exactly like human blood, real yinrih blood being maroon rather than red.
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 To make sure I understand, when you refer to "the relationship among litter mates", do you mean the genetic relationship, the social relationship, or both?
Yes, both. Litter mates can be friendly, antagonistic, or anything in between to each other just like human siblings. The fact that they are potentially less genetically similar to one another compared to human siblings means a greater degree of difference in looks and behavior, which can complicate (or make easier) the relationships between them.
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Holiday laziness caught up with me, so instead of a specific word for each day, here's a few words (and phrases) I've made over the past few days.
Folonqar - Assorted Words
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jaxto (po)poffor plenet - to exile (lit. burn one's head*)

Poffo mot velon ha krejbor jaxto popoffor plenenq.
poffo mot velo-n ha krejbo-r jaxto po-poffor plene-nq
man kill PAST-3SG so that-PL head 3SG-head burn-3PL
He killed someone, so he is being exiled.

Also,
sferro/a - selfish**

Sferro poffo pke poffor nes saxran.
sferr-o poffo pke poffo-r nes saxra-n
selfish-M man with man-PL not be-3SG
A selfish man has no friends.

Now it's time to list off some other crimes you can get exiled for. (New words will be listed separately)

Greed
lebot - to stockpile, gather in excess

Laziness
gat/nqet pomet - to refuse to do/make
gat - to do/work
pomet - to refuse, to not want (expresses disgust or disdain)

Neglect***
poffo/a demot - to abandon someone
demot - to leave, abandon, forsake

This isn't quite an exhaustive list.

*Though no one at this point would remember exactly how it started, the common ritual for exile is to push the criminal to the ground and press their forehead into a fire for a short time. While it may be brutal, it's very effective in keeping the person from joining another branch of the tribe.
**While not a crime, selfishness is the antithesis of the Poffan ideal. This is not an insult to be used lightly.
***When said neglect leads to serious danger, harm, or death.
Now to answer some questions.
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 I like the specificity here. If I might ask, is there a particular reason why the names Kelo-djon and Jala-bhon end up as "Keldo" and "Sabbo" in the English translation?
Thank you!
Not really. I decided to try making them sound more English out of curiosity, but given the results, I don't think I'll do it again (at least not anytime soon).
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 To clarify, when you say that things match in gender, does this language have grammatical gender, or is it just that these nouns refer to things which are culturally associated with certain gender roles?
Grammatical gender. Something like Spanish or Latin.

And finally...
Nannarkve - Thirty-first Day
ban - the (only)

Ban fe, ve penso lega, peka saxran.
ban fe ve penso lega peka saxra-n
only one I which want[1SG] food be-3SG.
(lit. The only thing that I want is food)
All I want is some food.

And now I'm hungry.
Anyways, that was fun! I think I got about 30 words total. I also have a few rabbit trails to find more words in. Congratulations to everyone who made it all 30 days, thanks for showing off your awesome languages, and happy new year! [;)]
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Day 31
Wiña
/wiɲa/
[wiɲa]

Verb.
1. To be united
2. To be in a complete/total state

Bonus words derived from above word:
Wiñaak
/wiɲa:k/
[wiɲa:k]
Noun: "Totality"

Wiñaim
/wiɲaim/
[wiɲaim]
Noun: Unity

Zili'aatimwiñaak
/θiliʔa:timwiɲa:k/
Noun: "Universal Soul (Zeigouŋdeizese Religion)"

Compound of Zili (Title for deities and divine concepts)+" +Aatim "soul" +Wiñaak
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Lexember 31

Yemya
ayatha /ɑjɑtʰɑ/ n. “unity” related to PIE *h₁óynos “one” however, the medial <a> suggests the stem includes a laryngeal *h₁óyH- plus *-teh₂

Yinše
haha /haha/ stative verb “to be alone” reduplicated form of ha “to be one; one”
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Lexember 31

1 prep same as
11 adj equal

Mraw1 pác31 rën3. Cho3 thöy4 mraw1 öng111
Emotions are the same as thoughts. In the mind, they are equal.
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My minicity is [http://zyphrazia.myminicity.com/xml]Zyphrazia and [http://novland.myminicity.com/xml]Novland.

Minicity has fallen :(
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I have a request. Since we only have one word this week, at the minimum, maybe you could give all of us feedback on our 2023 Lexember journeys (and conlang) as a whole in early January, instead of commenting on only December 31 for each person? The way you did here in Lexember 2020.

Anyway . , ,


Shaleyan

Day 31

iluya
solo (musical act), solo artist
il, one + -uya, suffix for musical groups

Hina Kanukoniyob Shali hel shomu da ba wulas, Shaleyob Siña hel iluya da Balinasashayelap.
while Kankonian Shari COP band 1* of member Shaleyan Siña COP solo_artist *1 Blintzshaiłap
While the Kankonian Shari is a member of the band Blintzshaiłap, the Shaleyan Siña is a solo artist.

Bonus words: hina: whereas, while, whilst
Kanukoniyob: Kankonian (Kanukoniya, Kankonia + -ob, suffix for demonyms)

I've invented the suffix -uya for this Lexember day, so here are some other words I've just created that use it:

sad (two) -> saduya (duo, duet)
dud (three) -> duduya (trio)
yokh (four) -> yokhuya (quartet)
min (five) -> minuya (quintet)
sheph (six) -> shephuya (sextet)
phal (seven) -> phaluya (septet)
yama (eight) -> yamuya (octet)



At the end of last Lexember, Shaleyan had a lexicon of 3,386 words. Now, at the end of this Lexember, it has 3,557 words.
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Re: Lexember 2023

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shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00
Shemtov:
Shemtov wrote: 25 Dec 2023 05:52 Day 24:
Weid
/we:d/
[weɪð]
Noun:
1. Common Knowledge
2. A concept in Zeigouŋdeizese Religion that may be freely rendered as "The Self-Evident Universal Truth and Knowledge".
3. Common sense
I like the look and sound of this word.

Full discloser: This is a little Easter Egg to the word "Veda", since I took a lot of influence from Dharmic religions for Zeigouŋdeizese Religion, and in particular the Three Core Holy Texts roughly correspond to the Vedas, and they were always meant to contain the word for the concept that I would later label "Weid" in their individual names and the name that describes all three (Weidjitaak), since the Zeigouŋdeizese believe that the Weidjitaak will naturally come in the exact form that they have it in, to any human who has realized Weid; that is, those three texts are the shortest and most efficient way to express Weid in human language; and thus these texts were written by "the natural state of things". I understand if that makes no sense, as there is a lot of metaphysical ideas that infuse their entire spiritual system that go into the relationship between "Weid" and those Texts.
Spoiler:
The reason why I went for a Dharmic-inspired Religion is that the Waanic languages are inspired by the idea of mixing Austronesian and Mayan, and the cultural aesthetics are thus a fusion between the Classical Mayan and the Majapahit Empire of what's now Indonesia, and the IRL Majapahit religion was a syncretism of Shaivite Hinduism and Buddhism, I decided to give that fact a nod by allowing it to inspire their spirituality, though their calendric system was vaguely influenced by the Mayan calendar.
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Re: Lexember 2023

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Khemehekis wrote: 01 Jan 2024 03:18 I have a request. Since we only have one word this week, at the minimum, maybe you could give all of us feedback on our 2023 Lexember journeys (and conlang) as a whole in early January, instead of commenting on only December 31 for each person? The way you did here in Lexember 2020.
For the first four weeks of Lexember 2020, qwed117 decided - unprompted - to comment on other people's posts at the end of each week, which was very nice of them. Since they understandably didn't have time to do so after the fifth and final week, I wanted to show my appreciation by commenting on what other participants had shared myself. However, it didn't feel right to only comment on what people had posted during the last week, so I ended up going back through the whole thread and typing up my thoughts on each participant's entries from throughout the entire month. Doing so took up most of my free time over the first few days of the new year, and it's not an experience I'm eager to repeat, especially when there's a much easier alternative.

Starting with Lexember 2021, I've tried to follow qwed117's example more closely by sharing my comments on a weekly basis. It does take me the better part of a day to put all of my thoughts together each week, and I spend more time and effort on giving feedback than I do on most of my own Lexember entries, but that's fine with me. I like doing this, but I'd also like to avoid ever having to go back and respond to 31 days' worth of posts all at once again.

Also, I've already said everything I wanted to say about what other people posted for the first 30 days of Lexember this year.

So, I'm sorry to say that I'm going to have to deny this request. I hope you can understand why.
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Re: Lexember 2023

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Happy New Year, everyone!

Many, many thanks to Corphishy, Pabappa, Iyionaku, Arayaz, _Just_A_Sketch, lurker, spanick, Frislander, VaptuantaDoi, Solarius, qwed117, Keenir, Flavia, Knox Adjacent, Shemtov, Khemehekis, Yrusia, Imralu, Ælfwine, KaiTheHomoSapien, and conlang-creature (hopefully I haven't missed anyone or listed anyone's name twice) for participating in Lexember 2023 with me! Regardless of whether you're able to make thirty-one posts or just one, Lexember is a challenge, and I appreciate all of you who were willing to give it a shot and share at least some of your entries here on the board. Last year, the Lexember 2022 thread ended up being 13 pages long and containing 250 posts, but thanks to all of you, this year's thread is currently 16 pages long and contains 318 posts, making it the longest since 2019! Special thanks as well to Iyionaku, Arayaz, lurker, and Khemehekis for their suggestions for this year's weekly themes! [:D]

I've been feeling pretty low on energy for most of the past month, but I'm still reasonably satisfied with what I was able to accomplish. I'm glad that I've still been able to read and respond to what others have shared as well. I hope that this has been a positive experience for all of you! That being said, as much as I love getting to "host" the thread and participate myself, I'm always relieved to be done with Lexember for the year, and I suspect I'm not alone in that.

I wish all of you a safe, happy, and healthy new year, and I look forward to seeing at least some of you, hopefully, back for Lexember 2024! [<3]

Now that we're done with the 6th & final "week" of Lexember 2023, I've taken some time to read through and comment on what other participants have posted for "Week 6", AKA December 31st. Hopefully I haven't accidentally missed anyone's work entirely. If anyone wanted to make one last post, but didn't have the time to do so before the end of the day on New Year's Eve in their timezone, no worries at all! You're all welcome to finish participating however you'd like, of course, and please feel free to post your final entries here in the thread even now that we're in the new year. I'll take time to respond to any posts that are made after I publish this one.

Iyionaku:
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Iyionaku wrote: 29 Dec 2023 15:41 As I will be off for the rest of the year, here comes my final post for this lexember. And with that, my lexicon in Yélian grew to 6,619 entries!
Thanks for participating! I hope you enjoy your time off. [:)]
Iyionaku wrote: 29 Dec 2023 15:41 bigebèn [bɨgəˈbɛn] - Big Bang (end of singularity)
Etymology: loan from English Big Bang and adjusted to Yélian phonology.
Nice! If I might ask, what's the Yélian name for this clock tower in London?
Arayaz:
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Arayaz wrote: 31 Dec 2023 08:15 Ruykkarraber de “one”

Den in yuridir. “I found one.”
one-2 1sg.1 find-PST
I like the look and sound of this example sentence, and of the language in general.
Pabappa:
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Pabappa wrote: 31 Dec 2023 11:15 peu, to cooperate, be united, bring parts into a whole. This is from MRCA puli and is a regular sound change. It can change to /pau/ to obey a vowel harmony rule that is triggered when another /a/ follows.
Cool!
Pabappa wrote: 31 Dec 2023 11:15 And I've answered the question I posed myself a few posts upthread, where I was wondering why one word I'd come up with had v (IPA /w/) in place of the expected sequence -up-. I realize now that it's because Play shifted the sequence /lw/ to /w/ twice, with the second instance of the shift occuring only in freshly coined compounds which had been missed by the first. This would not happen often, however. And because in the meantime the /w/ created by the first shift had changed to another sound (usually /b/), these two shifts have different outcomes. Thus, the word I recorded as vaivās earlier should either be vaipās (if the compound is old) or vayupās (if the compound greatly post-dates both shifts). Since analogy is common in Play, even newly created compounds can obey old sound change rules. Therefore I plan to use vaipās as the word for a boarding school located far from town, such that it needs its own town-like fortifications.
Excellent!
lurker:
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lurker wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:52 Dawn of The Thirty First Day. 18 Hours Remain

rjHr-HG-g

[chuff, early falling strengthening growl, chuff, long low strengthening growl, short low weak growl]

Etymology
rjHr (to howl, to sing, to pray public ally) + -HG (an act or event of)

Noun
1. a song
2. one of the three daily liturgies of The Bright Way

Wayfarers are required to assist at at least one daily liturgy during their 11-day active period. Which day and which liturgy within that day is up to the individual or family, and different communities have different ways to fulfill the obligation.

Like the western breviary/liturgy of the hours, the three liturgies are named for the time of day that they are said.
Very nice!
lurker wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:52 Yay I did it! 31 days and 31 lexemes (although not necessarily new morphemes)
Congratulations!
lurker wrote: 31 Dec 2023 18:45
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 Is this fluid a similar shade of red to human blood? Even though the smell should make the two substances fairly easy to distinguish regardless of the visual similarity, I could still imagine the first human to see a yinrih "cry" being rather alarmed and confused.
The fluid looks exactly like human blood, real yinrih blood being maroon rather than red.
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 To make sure I understand, when you refer to "the relationship among litter mates", do you mean the genetic relationship, the social relationship, or both?
Yes, both. Litter mates can be friendly, antagonistic, or anything in between to each other just like human siblings. The fact that they are potentially less genetically similar to one another compared to human siblings means a greater degree of difference in looks and behavior, which can complicate (or make easier) the relationships between them.
Thank you for your responses!
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conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18 jaxto (po)poffor plenet - to exile (lit. burn one's head*)

[…]

*Though no one at this point would remember exactly how it started, the common ritual for exile is to push the criminal to the ground and press their forehead into a fire for a short time. While it may be brutal, it's very effective in keeping the person from joining another branch of the tribe.
Whoa!
conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 I like the specificity here. If I might ask, is there a particular reason why the names Kelo-djon and Jala-bhon end up as "Keldo" and "Sabbo" in the English translation?
Thank you!
Not really. I decided to try making them sound more English out of curiosity, but given the results, I don't think I'll do it again (at least not anytime soon).
Ah, understood!
conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00 To clarify, when you say that things match in gender, does this language have grammatical gender, or is it just that these nouns refer to things which are culturally associated with certain gender roles?
Grammatical gender. Something like Spanish or Latin.
Got it! Thank you for your responses.
conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18 And finally...
Nannarkve - Thirty-first Day
ban - the (only)

Ban fe, ve penso lega, peka saxran.
ban fe ve penso lega peka saxra-n
only one I which want[1SG] food be-3SG.
(lit. The only thing that I want is food)
All I want is some food.
Nice!
conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18 And now I'm hungry.
Bon appétit!
conlang-creature wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:18 Anyways, that was fun! I think I got about 30 words total. I also have a few rabbit trails to find more words in. Congratulations to everyone who made it all 30 days, thanks for showing off your awesome languages, and happy new year! [;)]
Thank you! Likewise, congratulations and Happy New Year! [:D]
Shemtov:
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Shemtov wrote: 31 Dec 2023 21:45 Day 31
Wiña
/wiɲa/
[wiɲa]

Verb.
1. To be united
2. To be in a complete/total state

Bonus words derived from above word:
Wiñaak
/wiɲa:k/
[wiɲa:k]
Noun: "Totality"

Wiñaim
/wiɲaim/
[wiɲaim]
Noun: Unity

Zili'aatimwiñaak
/θiliʔa:timwiɲa:k/
Noun: "Universal Soul (Zeigouŋdeizese Religion)"

Compound of Zili (Title for deities and divine concepts)+" +Aatim "soul" +Wiñaak
Very nice!
Shemtov wrote: 01 Jan 2024 09:24 Full discloser: This is a little Easter Egg to the word "Veda", since I took a lot of influence from Dharmic religions for Zeigouŋdeizese Religion, and in particular the Three Core Holy Texts roughly correspond to the Vedas, and they were always meant to contain the word for the concept that I would later label "Weid" in their individual names and the name that describes all three (Weidjitaak), since the Zeigouŋdeizese believe that the Weidjitaak will naturally come in the exact form that they have it in, to any human who has realized Weid; that is, those three texts are the shortest and most efficient way to express Weid in human language; and thus these texts were written by "the natural state of things". I understand if that makes no sense, as there is a lot of metaphysical ideas that infuse their entire spiritual system that go into the relationship between "Weid" and those Texts.
Spoiler:
The reason why I went for a Dharmic-inspired Religion is that the Waanic languages are inspired by the idea of mixing Austronesian and Mayan, and the cultural aesthetics are thus a fusion between the Classical Mayan and the Majapahit Empire of what's now Indonesia, and the IRL Majapahit religion was a syncretism of Shaivite Hinduism and Buddhism, I decided to give that fact a nod by allowing it to inspire their spirituality, though their calendric system was vaguely influenced by the Mayan calendar.
Interesting! Your explanation makes sense to me.
spanick:
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spanick wrote: 01 Jan 2024 01:41 Yemya
ayatha /ɑjɑtʰɑ/ n. “unity” related to PIE *h₁óynos “one” however, the medial <a> suggests the stem includes a laryngeal *h₁óyH- plus *-teh₂

Yinše
haha /haha/ stative verb “to be alone” reduplicated form of ha “to be one; one”
Wonderful!
qwed117:
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qwed117 wrote: 01 Jan 2024 02:31 1 prep same as
11 adj equal

Mraw1 pác31 rën3. Cho3 thöy4 mraw1 öng111
Emotions are the same as thoughts. In the mind, they are equal.
I like the way you've derived the word for "equal" here.
Khemehekis:
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Khemehekis wrote: 01 Jan 2024 03:18 iluya
solo (musical act), solo artist
il, one + -uya, suffix for musical groups

[…]

I've invented the suffix -uya for this Lexember day, so here are some other words I've just created that use it:

sad (two) -> saduya (duo, duet)
dud (three) -> duduya (trio)
yokh (four) -> yokhuya (quartet)
min (five) -> minuya (quintet)
sheph (six) -> shephuya (sextet)
phal (seven) -> phaluya (septet)
yama (eight) -> yamuya (octet)
Nice! I'm particularly fond of iluya, yokhuya, and yamuya.
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Re: Lexember 2023

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Thank you as always for your kind words, shimobaatar. [:)]
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Re: Lexember 2023

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Finally I get around to answering your comments, shimo. Again, many thanks for your thoughtful responses! I'll admit that sometimes I go the extra mile in terms of explanations or etymology, because I know that you'll comment on it and that serves as an additional motivation.
shimobaatar wrote: 31 Dec 2023 13:00
Iyionaku wrote: 25 Dec 2023 15:22 A'logor yinakolkit, cut can renut robipavinquet bats færnaûl.
[ɐˈlo:gɔ̈d̟ ɕɨnɐˈkolkɨt, kʉt‿an ˈɾeːnʉt ɾɔ̈ˌbiːpɐˈviŋkə‿bat͡s ˌfœɾnɐ.ˈuːl]
DEF.ANIM=prophet PST-burn_to_death-INV.3SG.ANIM, but for 1PLEX.OBL FUT-be_remembered-3SG being martyr
The prophet was burnt to death, but for us he will live on as a martyr.
I like the sound of this whole sentence. logor for "prophet" makes me think of this, as well as "god" thanks to [-gɔ̈d̟] in the IPA transcription.
Iyionaku wrote: 26 Dec 2023 15:55 fadgúvenal [fɐˈduːʋənɐl] - last will and testament [Southern Standard]
guvodabato [ˈguː̥ʋɔ̈dɐˌbaːto] - last will and testament [Northern Standard]

Etymology I: fad- "terminative prefix" + gúvenal "writing"
Etymology II: guvod "piece of writing" + abato "last"
I apologize for nitpicking, but did you intend for there to be a ring below the first length marker in the IPA transcription of guvodabato? In any case, I like how these words look and sound!
Iyionaku wrote: 28 Dec 2023 14:16
logor is indeed a coincidence, or at least I think so - I didn't find anything that indicated that I derived it from logos. But the word is also very old, latest from 2016, at a time where I hadn't thought too much about etymologies yet. log- is an isolated morpheme in my dictionary currently, and -or is the ending for persons and occupations - the pronunciation of word-final /ɾ/ as [d̟] is a later development.

And you were right about your nitpick (and again, it really shows with how much detail you look at our posts!). The correct pronunciation of guvodabato is [ˈguːʋɔ̈dɐˌbaːto]
shimobaatar wrote: 01 Jan 2024 23:31 Nice! If I might ask, what's the Yélian name for this clock tower in London?
Very good question! Place names, unlike loan words, aren't usually adjusted to the Yélian spellings, so the Yélian name would still be Big Ben. However, as the Yélian phonology poses heavy restrictions on two adjacent stops, most Yélians would probably pronounce it similarly to Big Bang as [bɨgəˈbɛn] or maybe [biˈbɛn], dissimilating the first /g/.
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