I'm a cat person, but I agree. The real clever animals? Crows. And dolphins. And octopi.
Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
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Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
Parrots are awesome too. I have the sapient species known as the parrotpeople on the planet Psittacotia in the Lehola Galaxy ("parrotperson" and "Psittacotia" both being LIE exonyms, obviously). I also have the detrom, who are sapient otters.
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Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Squirrels chase koi . . . chase squirrels
My Kankonian-English dictionary: 92,000 words and counting
31,416: The number of the conlanging beast!
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
rjHrHGfdg
/chuff, early rising weakening growl, chuff, long low weakening growl, short high weakening whine, short low weak growl/
from rjHr (to howl, sing, pray aloud) + -HG (an instance of the verb) + -fd (diminutive suffix)
Noun
A canticle, especially those used by hearthkeepers
/chuff, early rising weakening growl, chuff, long low weakening growl, short high weakening whine, short low weak growl/
from rjHr (to howl, sing, pray aloud) + -HG (an instance of the verb) + -fd (diminutive suffix)
Noun
A canticle, especially those used by hearthkeepers
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
I'm also a fan of parrots. I don't have the resources to own one as a pet, but I really want to interact with one, a big one like a macaw or a cockatoo.Khemehekis wrote: ↑07 May 2024 02:17 Parrots are awesome too. I have the sapient species known as the parrotpeople on the planet Psittacotia in the Lehola Galaxy ("parrotperson" and "Psittacotia" both being LIE exonyms, obviously). I also have the detrom, who are sapient otters.
I've also come to appreciate apes and monkeys thanks to this project of mine. I used to find them gross and disturbing, in an uncanny valley kind of way, but reading up on them has made me warm up to our hairier brethren. I've particularly taken a shine to orangutans. They're quiet and solitary just like me.
hi!
rf!
/chuff, short high strong whine/
Verb
to chuff, utter a chuff consonant
Interjection
Hi, hello (sometimes written <rr>)
Chuffing is the yinrih equivalent to a smile or saying hello to a familiar person, or an unfamiliar stranger if they're not formally introducing themselves with the customary introductory greeting "Light shine upon you, friend."
Here's a rough approximation of how it sounds.
/chuff, short high strong whine/
Verb
to chuff, utter a chuff consonant
Interjection
Hi, hello (sometimes written <rr>)
Chuffing is the yinrih equivalent to a smile or saying hello to a familiar person, or an unfamiliar stranger if they're not formally introducing themselves with the customary introductory greeting "Light shine upon you, friend."
Here's a rough approximation of how it sounds.
Interrogative copula
Well, I guess it's official: Commonthroat has copulas. I tried to avoid them, but here we are. I guess <nl> (used with prepositions) is technically a copula, so I suppose they've been here all along.
So...
<BD>
/long rising weak whine/
Not to be confused with the interrogative deictic suffix -BD, although the two are likely etymologically related.
Verb
Interrogative copula.
<BD> means "what is...?"
You use the interrogative copula when asking for the sense of a word or phrase. You use the interrogative deictic suffix when you're asking for the referent of a word or phrase.
So...
<BD>
/long rising weak whine/
Not to be confused with the interrogative deictic suffix -BD, although the two are likely etymologically related.
Verb
Interrogative copula.
<BD> means "what is...?"
You use the interrogative copula when asking for the sense of a word or phrase. You use the interrogative deictic suffix when you're asking for the referent of a word or phrase.
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rMLcdr-Mr BD
computer-3P what_is
What is this computer?
g rMLcdr-BD
POS computer-INT
Whose computer?
rMLcdr-BD qbC
computer-INT right
Which computer is the right one?
Which computer is right?
rMLcdr-g BD
computer-3I what_is
What's a computer?
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Updated pronunciation table
Here's an updated pronunciation table. I think the last one I did was still using the romanization scheme with vowels. Here's a new one according to the current transliteration scheme. An updated morpheme list is upcoming:
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rom. timing tone strength phonation
b short low weak whine
B long low weak whine
c short low strong whine
C long low strong whine
d short high weak whine
D long high weak whine
f short high strong whine
F long high strong whine
g short low weak growl
G long low weak growl
h short low strong growl
H long low strong growl
j short high weak growl
J long high weak growl
k short high strong growl
K long high strong growl
l short low weak grunt
L long low weak grunt
m short low strong grunt
M long low strong grunt
n short high weak grunt
N long high weak grunt
p short high strong grunt
P long high strong grunt
bc short low strengthening whine
bC early low strengthening whine
bd short rising weak whine
bD early rising weak whine
bf short rising strengthening whine
bF early rising strengthening whine
Bc late low strengthening whine
BC long low strengthening whine
Bd late rising weak whine
BD long rising weak whine
Bf late rising strengthening whine
BF long rising strengthening whine
cb short low weakening whine
cB early low weakening whine
cd short rising weakening whine
cD early rising weakening whine
cf short rising strong whine
cF early rising strong whine
Cb late low weakening whine
CB long low weakening whine
Cd late rising weakening whine
CD long rising weakening whine
Cf late rising strong whine
CF long rising strong whine
db short falling weak whine
dB early falling weak whine
dc short falling strengthening whine
dC early falling strengthening whine
df short high strengthening whine
dF early high strengthening whine
Db late falling weak whine
DB long falling weak whine
Dc late falling strengthening whine
DC long falling strengthening whine
Df late high strengthening whine
DF long high strengthening whine
fb short falling weakening whine
fB early falling weakening whine
fc short falling strong whine
fC early falling strong whine
fd short high weakening whine
fD early high weakening whine
Fb late falling weakening whine
FB long falling weakening whine
Fc late falling strong whine
FC long falling strong whine
Fd late high weakening whine
FD long high weakening whine
gh short low strengthening growl
gH early low strengthening growl
gj short rising weak growl
gJ early rising weak growl
gk short rising strengthening growl
gK early rising strengthening growl
Gh late low strengthening growl
GH long low strengthening growl
Gj late rising weak growl
GJ long rising weak growl
Gk late rising strengthening growl
GK long rising strengthening growl
hg short low weakening growl
hG early low weakening growl
hj short rising weakening growl
hJ early rising weakening growl
hk short rising strong growl
hK early rising strong growl
Hg late low weakening growl
HG long low weakening growl
Hj late rising weakening growl
HJ long rising weakening growl
Hk late rising strong growl
HK long rising strong growl
jg short falling weak growl
jG early falling weak growl
jh short falling strengthening growl
jH early falling strengthening growl
jk short high strengthening growl
jK early high strengthening growl
Jg late falling weak growl
JG long falling weak growl
Jh late falling strengthening growl
JH long falling strengthening growl
Jk late high strengthening growl
JK long high strengthening growl
kg short falling weakening growl
kG early falling weakening growl
kh short falling strong growl
kH early falling strong growl
kj short high weakening growl
kJ early high weakening growl
Kg late falling weakening growl
KG long falling weakening growl
Kh late falling strong growl
KH long falling strong growl
Kj late high weakening growl
KJ long high weakening growl
lm short low strengthening grunt
lM early low strengthening grunt
ln short rising weak grunt
lN early rising weak grunt
lp short rising strengthening grunt
lP early rising strengthening grunt
Lm late low strengthening grunt
LM long low strengthening grunt
Ln late rising weak grunt
LN long rising weak grunt
Lp late rising strengthening grunt
LP long rising strengthening grunt
ml short low weakening grunt
mL early low weakening grunt
mn short rising weakening grunt
mN early rising weakening grunt
mp short rising strong grunt
mP early rising strong grunt
Ml late low weakening grunt
ML long low weakening grunt
Mn late rising weakening grunt
MN long rising weakening grunt
Mp late rising strong grunt
MP long rising strong grunt
nl short falling weak grunt
nL early falling weak grunt
nm short falling strengthening grunt
nM early falling strengthening grunt
np short high strengthening grunt
nP early high strengthening grunt
Nl late falling weak grunt
NL long falling weak grunt
Nm late falling strengthening grunt
NM long falling strengthening grunt
Np late high strengthening grunt
NP long high strengthening grunt
pl short falling weakening grunt
pL early falling weakening grunt
pm short falling strong grunt
pM early falling strong grunt
pn short high weakening grunt
pN early high weakening grunt
Pl late falling weakening grunt
PL long falling weakening grunt
Pm late falling strong grunt
PM long falling strong grunt
Pn late high weakening grunt
PN long high weakening grunt
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big ol' morpheme list
Here's an updated list of morphemes These are roots rather than whole words, so nouns don't have deictic suffixes etc. The best way to look up a morpheme would probably be to copy the whole code block, past it into a text editor, and Ctrl+F to search for what you want.
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Root Meaning Category
rmr today adverb
sjr tomorrow adverb
spr yesterday adverb
B from preposition
b of (possessive preposition) preposition
G imperative modal particle
g possessive particle preposition
h plural adjective
j and conjunction
L modal (wish/hope/desire) particle
M sturdy, steadfast, hard adjective
n with (preposition indicating means or instrument) preposition
P in preposition
p perch (straddle branch on the belly) verb
l or conjunction
H no, none, zero numeral
F complimentizer (free) particle
C another adjective
K time, instance, occasion (spanish vez) noun
-b nonauthoritative verb suffix suffix
-c suffix turning nouns into adjectives suffix
-g 3rd person indefinate noun suffix suffix
-l 1st person noun suffix suffix
-m customary/agentive verbal suffix suffix
-p 3rd person distal noun suffix suffix
bc on, upon, for (purpose?) preposition
BC all adjective
bD squeeze verb
Bd wet adjective
cD breathe verb
CD over, above, about, concerning preposition
DC under, below preposition
dq forest noun
FB complimentizer (bound) particle
FD sand noun
Gr fog noun
jk little adjective
jr big adjective
Kq egg noun
Lm flat adjective
nl to be at, located (Mandarin zài) verb
Np front, forward (adj) adjective
nq with (alongside) preposition
pL cloud noun
pn digit noun
PN squat, sit like a dog verb
Pq burn verb
qg wide adjective
-qN 3rd person medial suffix suffix
rB ink noun
rf joint noun
rF name noun
rG rope, cable noun
rn know verb
sc liver (analogous organ) noun
sF to love verb
sG to (direction) preposition
sh flow verb
sN broad, wide adjective
sn skin noun
rl to (marks indirect object) preposition
hG true, authentic adjective
GJ work, make verb
-K dogmatic verb suffix suffix
-BD interrogative noun suffix suffix
-Mr 3rd person proximal noun suffix suffix
-qn 2nd person noun suffux suffix
-sd suffix forming female names suffix
-sk suffix on male names suffix
BCq shine upon, illuminate (transitive) verb
cbq blood noun
cdq ask verb
CDq hold verb
dcr dam (female parent) noun
Dcr scratch verb
rFB fly verb
fCq find verb
Frk back (anatomy) noun
gJq swim verb
gqJ finally (final?) adjective
hgq because conjunction
HJq tree noun
jhq sea noun
Jhr belly noun
JKq push verb
kjq palm, sole noun
KJq three numeral
LNr few adjective
lPr climb verb
MLq tooth noun
MNq day noun
MNr pelage/coat noun
Mqd rainbow noun
mqM male (more formal, used in biology, medicine etc.) noun
NLr lick verb
nmq lactation patches noun
NPq dirty adjective
Plq dig verb
PMq muzzle noun
qbC correct adjective
qbc false, pseudo- adjective
qBd river noun
qbf if conjunction
qBf two numeral
qBq exhale through the nose (sigh?) verb
qcb narrow adjective
qcB rear up (hind feet on the ground and abdomen exposed) verb
qcD fruit noun
qCq see verb
qCr mouth noun
qDc and conjunction
qDC mountain noun
qfr at preposition
qFr fire noun
qGH die verb
qgj fight verb
qGq to warm (transitive) verb
qGr play (a game) verb
qhg full adjective
qhq sire noun
qHr laugh verb
qkg smoke noun
qKq split verb
qln manner, way noun
rln pant verb
qMP wash verb
sfq earth, soil, the planet Yih noun
qNP ice noun
qpq put, place verb
rBq turn verb
rCf dry adjective
rDB say verb
rdF an electric shock noun
rDq female religious superior noun
rdr one numeral
rfc guts, viscera (symbolic seat of emotion) noun
rFD claw, nail noun
rgJ stab verb
rGq bring verb
rgr bark (tree) noun
rHg male noun
rJh throat, language noun
rkh right adjective
rkH rub verb
rkq sharp adjective
rmK hearth noun
rml bite verb
rML think verb
rmn long adjective
rnL not (negative adverb) adverb
rnP live verb
rnq paw noun
rpM small adjective
sbc flesh, meat (as food), gore noun
sBC table, counter noun
sCF new adjective
scr star noun
sDc heavy adjective
sdF rodent analog noun
sdq throw verb
sFb vomit verb
sfc child noun
sFq news, tidings noun
sGh freeze verb
sGH womb-nest noun
sgH thin adjective
sGk eye noun
sGr hunt verb
sgr Planetary ring noun
sHq dull (not sharp) adjective
sjH sky noun
sJq short adjective
sKh tongue noun
sLq salutations (used in letters) interjection
sPL salt noun
sCb ship, craft, vehicle noun
qCb bright adjective
lNr heal verb
lNq look for, seek verb
rGr guide verb
qBC storm noun
sjg lie, deceive verb
rMP feel (emotion), smell like verb
lmq speed noun
rhK wheel noun
sPl dew, condensation noun
sb- verbal prefix meaning to cover with (cf Englsih be-) prefix
-HG suffix turning a verb into a noun with the meaning of “an event of” suffix
rLr personal space, vicinity, sphere, realm, domain noun
Lmq fix, repair verb
fCq lose verb
sJK choose, vote verb
-plr suffix creating transitive verbs from nouns suffix
qBCr flesh (as opposed to spirit) noun
qcDr give verb
qCFq female noun
qdBq lap (drink using the tongue) verb
qDCq sleep (torpor) verb
qfBq red adjective
qFdq ear noun
qfdr stand verb
qgHr rain noun
qgJr many adjective
qgKq yinrih (analgous to “human”) noun
qGKq night noun
qjHr left adjective
qJKq bad adjective
qjkq dust noun
qjkr pull verb
qKgr heart (analogous organ) noun
qkGr white adjective
qlnr thick adjective
qLPq hear verb
qMLq five numeral
qmLr neck noun
qMNr sun noun
qMqm human noun
qNLr lake noun
qNmq stick noun
qnpq count verb
rbCq cold adjective
rBfq hit verb
rbfq old adjective
rBFr four numeral
rCFq eat verb
rdBq write verb
rDFr near preposition
rFbr bone noun
rfBr afraid adjective
rfbr walk verb
rFcq straight adjective
rFDq tie verb
rGKq come verb
rhGr rotten adjective
rHqP missionary noun
rjHr Howl, sing, pray publicly verb
rKgq other adjective
rLmq animal noun
rlnq cut verb
rLPq light noun
rNlr good adjective
rpLq wind noun
rPNq lie on the back verb
sbfr far adjective
sbrP custodian, guardian noun
scBq water noun
sCfr smell (perceive via olfaction) verb
scfr smooth adjective
sCsC joyful adjective
sdbq fat noun
sDbr yellow adjective
sdFr some adjective
sFsF friend noun
sgHq grass noun
sGhq swell verb
sGKq road noun
sGkq wipe verb
sHGq milk noun
sHJr ashes noun
shkq year noun
sHKr root noun
sjgq head noun
sJhq sew (agriculture?) verb
sJkr lie down on the belly verb
sKGq stone noun
sKHq seed noun
slnr green adjective
slPq tail noun
smnr leaf noun
sMPq black adjective
smpr fall verb
sNLr leg noun
sNMq kill verb
sPlr float verb
sPlq rhinarium noun
spLr round adjective
sPnq snow verb
sPNq warm adjective
qnlq sick adjective
rBCq peace noun
sBCq empty adjective
qGKq outer space noun
rKGr the surface of a planet noun
qJGr letter, glyph noun
-sfsf mirative verb suffix suffix
HKsHK book noun
jk little adjective
khqkh male (guy, dude, chap, bloke etc) noun
sD go verb
rD stray, err verb
rcF harbor, shelter, haven noun
sMp step, tread verb
sCDr flavor, taste verb
rdc poor, pitiable adjective
spm odor, emotion noun
rC flick with the tail verb
jHr thump the ground with the tail verb
kHr strike with the tail verb
rGk plain adjective
B try, attempt verb
mp question particle particle
Bdq valley, dale noun
rj passive coverb (acted upon by) verb
pr reciprical coverb (acted upon each other)
sHJq thagomizer noun
Ln hortative particle (“Let’s”) particle
rgj grow, become verb
BD What is? verb
ML thing noun
-GH -ness (also turns verbs into nouns meaning "the concept of") suffix
-Cb cause to become (forms transitive verbs from nouns or adjectives) suffix
rpMr happy adjective
rfCr sad adjective
rkHr angry adjective
qdB remember, recall verb
snp holy adjective
sm- un- (opposite) prefix
sL body heat, soul noun
-cdr indicates a tool used to perform the action of the verb or which makes or acts upon a noun suffix
-PL group of, forms collective nouns suffix
pM must, have to (modal indicating obligation or necesity) particle
qF merely, only, no more than adverb
rBF cry, weep verb
qCD male litter mate noun
qDB female litter mate noun
rGhq home noun
rHJq morning noun
sCBr evening noun
CF middle noun
rKg opine verb
sBc spend, pass, waste verb
cDq time (Spanish tiempo) noun
-dB tending to, apt to (cf Latin -ax) suffix
rfDq interest noun
rp reflexive/middle coverb (act upon onself) verb
Fq whine verb
Kq growl verb
Pq grunt verb
qf huff verb
rf chuff verb
sf yip verb
sfcr sign, symbol noun
-sfb re- suffix
sFDr bless verb
rhJ bend verb
rCF look at, consider, behold verb
fb stop,cease verb
-k authoritative verb suffix? suffix
spM spread verb
-Jq Indicates a resident of a place or member of a group suffix
rFb reason, cause noun
sFB reason, motive noun
sfB mind adjective
sNL behind preposition
rN lore, body of knowledge noun
rMq bridge noun
rFCr ansible noun
qcq kiss (touch the nose to something and quickly exhale) verb
rcBr life noun
dFr prove, demonstrate, show verb
sMlr dear, beloved, expensive adjective
rkG dozen number
qbF gross (144) number
rDBq token, coin, unit of currency, point noun
FDr verb
qCDr just, fair adjective
rNPq spring, well, source, font noun
sMPr forst flyer (flying animal) noun
cB outside adverb
-db -able suffix
rBD walk on two legs, hobble, waddle verb
sPM to boil verb
GJq still, yet adverb
HKr notch, chip noun
FBr moon, natural satellite noun
NPr odd, funny, strange, rare adjective
-fd diminuative suffix suffix
-DF augmentative suffix suffix
qNL cloaca noun
slm cream, butter noun
splq dawn noun
rBc pass, pass by, succeed at verb
dBq learn verb
Dbr research, study, meditate verb
-lN indicates a place charactarized by the root suffix
qMlr last final adjective
qgJ operate, use verb
sMnr bulk, girth, mass noun
qNMr quench, douse, extinguish, deactivate verb
sJHq nuzzle, scrutinize, examine closely verb
rBFq to cover, surround verb
qMn comrade, ally, partner noun
rMNq light, ignite, turn on, activate verb
rCB hope verb
sGJ strong adjective
Consistnat glossing abreviations
I haven't done a good job making sure the glossing abbreviations are consistent. Here's a set of abbreviations that I think work that I'll try to stick to:
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Verbal inflections
-0 AUTH authoritative mood
-b NAUTH nonauthoritative mood
-sfsf MIR mirative mood
-K DOG dogmatic mood
Nominal inflections
-l 1 First Person
-qn 2 Second Person
-g 3I Third Person Indefinate
-Mr 3P Third Person Proximal
-qN 3M Third Person Medial
-p 3D Third Person Distal
-BD INT Interrogative
particles
L OPT Optative modal
G IMP Imperative modal
pM NEC Necesitative modal
Ln HORT Hortative modal
mp INP Interrogative particle (yes/no questions)
g POS possessive particle
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
A few words I've had to coin for the analysis swap game:
<DB>
/long falling weak whine/
related to -DB "-able"
Verb
can, be able to
<rgJfd>
/chuff, early rising weak growl, short high weakening whine/
from rgJ (to stab) + -fd (diminutive suffix)
1. to sting
2. to prick
3. to puncture
<DB>
/long falling weak whine/
related to -DB "-able"
Verb
can, be able to
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B sCFq-Mr 0 DB-0 qCq-0 g rGhq-Mr
from place-3P [I] can-AUTH see-AUTH POS home-3P
I can see my house from here.
here = "this place/this location"
<rgJfd>
/chuff, early rising weak growl, short high weakening whine/
from rgJ (to stab) + -fd (diminutive suffix)
1. to sting
2. to prick
3. to puncture
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
The Necessitative mood expresses need or requirement. It is formed with the modal particle <pM>, /early falling strong grunt/ along with an authoritative verb. It differs from the imperative/jussive (which uses the particle <G>) in that it's not directly commanding that the statement come to fruition. It also differs from the optative, which uses <L>, in that the speaker may not necessarily WANT what he's expressing, but he does NEED it.
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pM sG rGhq-p 0 sD
NEC to home-3D [I] go.
I need to go home.
I must go home.
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
qDbg
/huff, late falling weak whine, short low weak growl/
Noun
1. a small town
2. (tree dwellers and presapient yinrih) a shire, a social group consisting of childermoots, their litters, and empty-nesters, lead by a group of patriarchs, and, after yinrih achieve sapience, by female shamans. (info
Derived terms:
qDb-DF-g
from qDbg (small town) + -DF (augmentative suffix)
A large city, a metropolis
LMrg
/long low strengthening grunt, chuff, short low weak growl/
1. assembly, moot.
2. (Terran religion) a church or synagogue--specifically refers to the community and not the building, a calque of Greek ἐκκλησία (assembly).
Often forms compounds with a suffixed noun referring to either the members composing the group or to the purpose of the group.
Derived terms:
LMr-sfc-g
from LMrg (moot) + sfcg (pup).
A group of yinrih sires and dams, a childermoot.
LMr-qCFq-g
From LMr (moot) + qCFq (woman, female yinrih).
The Wifemoot, the upper legislative house of the planet Hearthside, consisting only of clergy, and thus only of women.
LMr-rHg-g
from LMr (moot) + rHg (man, male yinrih).
The Weremoot, the lower legislative house of the planet Hearthside, representing the laity. Not technically male-only, but Hearthsider women who get into politics generally start out as clerics.
More info on Hearthside's political system
/huff, late falling weak whine, short low weak growl/
Noun
1. a small town
2. (tree dwellers and presapient yinrih) a shire, a social group consisting of childermoots, their litters, and empty-nesters, lead by a group of patriarchs, and, after yinrih achieve sapience, by female shamans. (info
Derived terms:
qDb-DF-g
from qDbg (small town) + -DF (augmentative suffix)
A large city, a metropolis
LMrg
/long low strengthening grunt, chuff, short low weak growl/
1. assembly, moot.
2. (Terran religion) a church or synagogue--specifically refers to the community and not the building, a calque of Greek ἐκκλησία (assembly).
Often forms compounds with a suffixed noun referring to either the members composing the group or to the purpose of the group.
Derived terms:
LMr-sfc-g
from LMrg (moot) + sfcg (pup).
A group of yinrih sires and dams, a childermoot.
LMr-qCFq-g
From LMr (moot) + qCFq (woman, female yinrih).
The Wifemoot, the upper legislative house of the planet Hearthside, consisting only of clergy, and thus only of women.
LMr-rHg-g
from LMr (moot) + rHg (man, male yinrih).
The Weremoot, the lower legislative house of the planet Hearthside, representing the laity. Not technically male-only, but Hearthsider women who get into politics generally start out as clerics.
More info on Hearthside's political system
Do not sharpen your enemy's weapon
A possessive phrase using <g> can be the object of the possessive preposition <b> (of).
A more Terran way to say the above proverb is "If any stick is good enough to beat you with, don't hand your enemy a flail." Meaning if you've already got bad publicity, don't make it worse by giving your enemies legitimate reasons to go after you.
The word <sJHqg> refers to a spiked tube or ring that is wielded in the tail. It's often referred to as a "thagomizer" in English, as it's used in the same way as a stegosaurus's tail spikes. It may hold similar symbolic value to yinrih as swords do to humans.
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G rnL rkqCb-0 sJHq-p b g smsFsF-qN
IMP not sharpen-AUTH spiked_tail_weapon-3D of POS enemy-3M
"Do not sharpen your enemy's weapon."
The word <sJHqg> refers to a spiked tube or ring that is wielded in the tail. It's often referred to as a "thagomizer" in English, as it's used in the same way as a stegosaurus's tail spikes. It may hold similar symbolic value to yinrih as swords do to humans.
Odor colors
So, I've made a big deal about how the yinrih rely on non visual sensory information much more than humans. I've so far avoided elaborating on this concept in Commonthroat. In my never ending quest to do literally anything besides what I should be doing (yay ADHD!) I went searching for information on how human languages treat olfactory experience in order to get some inspiration.
I should preface this by saying that I am not a professional linguist. I did minor in linguistics in college, but do not consider myself more than an amateur in the field.
I ran across This academic paper, which expounds on exactly this topic, specifically as it relates to the Maniq language of southern Thailand, which has a set of what I'm going to call "odor colors".
I'm too cheap and lazy to buy a copy of the full paper, but here's what I got out of the abstract:
Conventional linguistic wisdom says that language cannot encode odors in the same way that it does colors. By this I take to mean that the word "green" describes a subjective sensory experience independent of any physical object that happens to evoke the sensation we call "green". Grass may be green, but there's nothing about the word green that inextricably links it to grass or any other green thing. In contrast, words describing odors are all bound to specific things that emit those odors. flowers smell "floral", fruits smell "fruity", earth smells "earthy", etc.
This paper challenges that notion, saying that the assumption that language cannot encode odors is based on data from languages of the developed world, and that an examination of a more diverse sample of languages seems to suggest that these "odor colors" as I call them, do indeed exist in at least some languages.
Various other scraps I can dig up about the above-mentioned article mention things like encoding axes or volumes of a conceptual space. I suppose like how tastes are more or less bitter, sour, savory, sweet, or salty, as though each of the five taste words are axes in a multidimensional spectrum.
I've also mentioned that I rely heavily on odors to get around, especially in places like shopping malls. Furthermore, I think it's pretty well known now that olfaction is very strongly tied to memory.
Anyway, right now Commonthroat heavily associates odor with emotion. You don't say "I feel sad", you say "I smell sad." When commenting on others' emotions, you also say "you smell sad" not "you look sad", because the speaker gathers that the listener is sad through the pheromones they're emitting rather than visual body language or facial expressions.
Commonthroat already has a few odor words, in addition to the basic emotions "happy", "sad", "angry", afraid", there's at least one word tying smell to memory, specifically nostalgia, and a word describing a lack of odor which doubles as a word for stoic or unemotional.
Just thinking out loud...
I should preface this by saying that I am not a professional linguist. I did minor in linguistics in college, but do not consider myself more than an amateur in the field.
I ran across This academic paper, which expounds on exactly this topic, specifically as it relates to the Maniq language of southern Thailand, which has a set of what I'm going to call "odor colors".
I'm too cheap and lazy to buy a copy of the full paper, but here's what I got out of the abstract:
Conventional linguistic wisdom says that language cannot encode odors in the same way that it does colors. By this I take to mean that the word "green" describes a subjective sensory experience independent of any physical object that happens to evoke the sensation we call "green". Grass may be green, but there's nothing about the word green that inextricably links it to grass or any other green thing. In contrast, words describing odors are all bound to specific things that emit those odors. flowers smell "floral", fruits smell "fruity", earth smells "earthy", etc.
This paper challenges that notion, saying that the assumption that language cannot encode odors is based on data from languages of the developed world, and that an examination of a more diverse sample of languages seems to suggest that these "odor colors" as I call them, do indeed exist in at least some languages.
Various other scraps I can dig up about the above-mentioned article mention things like encoding axes or volumes of a conceptual space. I suppose like how tastes are more or less bitter, sour, savory, sweet, or salty, as though each of the five taste words are axes in a multidimensional spectrum.
I've also mentioned that I rely heavily on odors to get around, especially in places like shopping malls. Furthermore, I think it's pretty well known now that olfaction is very strongly tied to memory.
Anyway, right now Commonthroat heavily associates odor with emotion. You don't say "I feel sad", you say "I smell sad." When commenting on others' emotions, you also say "you smell sad" not "you look sad", because the speaker gathers that the listener is sad through the pheromones they're emitting rather than visual body language or facial expressions.
Commonthroat already has a few odor words, in addition to the basic emotions "happy", "sad", "angry", afraid", there's at least one word tying smell to memory, specifically nostalgia, and a word describing a lack of odor which doubles as a word for stoic or unemotional.
Just thinking out loud...
Re: Commonthroat: a language that only a dog could probably pronounce
qmPr
/huff, early rising strong grunt, chuff/
Verb.
1. to catch
2. to arrest someone/something mid-fall
derived terms:
qmPrHGg: a catch, an act of catching
rjqmPrg: something caught, quarry, hunting trophy
rp-qmPr-HG
from rp (reflexive coverb) + qmPr (to catch) + -HG (an act or event of)
Coined by analogy with the idiomatic expression <B _____ smpr> meaning both "I fell from ____" and "I failed at ____".
an <rpqmPrHG> literally "an act of catching oneself" refers to picking oneself up after a significant failure.
Somewhat analogous to the English expression "It's not how many times you fall off the horse, it's how many times you get back on."
/huff, early rising strong grunt, chuff/
Verb.
1. to catch
2. to arrest someone/something mid-fall
derived terms:
qmPrHGg: a catch, an act of catching
rjqmPrg: something caught, quarry, hunting trophy
rp-qmPr-HG
from rp (reflexive coverb) + qmPr (to catch) + -HG (an act or event of)
Coined by analogy with the idiomatic expression <B _____ smpr> meaning both "I fell from ____" and "I failed at ____".
an <rpqmPrHG> literally "an act of catching oneself" refers to picking oneself up after a significant failure.
Somewhat analogous to the English expression "It's not how many times you fall off the horse, it's how many times you get back on."
tail food
rjrCFqslPqg
/chuff, short high weak growl, chuff, long rising strong whine, huff, yip, early rising strengthening grunt, huff, short low weak growl/
from rjrCFqg (food) + slPqg (tail) "Tail food"
Noun
Small snacks or hors d'oeuvres meant to be eaten while standing or when the paws are otherwise occupied, leaving the tail as the means of grasping the food.
/chuff, short high weak growl, chuff, long rising strong whine, huff, yip, early rising strengthening grunt, huff, short low weak growl/
from rjrCFqg (food) + slPqg (tail) "Tail food"
Noun
Small snacks or hors d'oeuvres meant to be eaten while standing or when the paws are otherwise occupied, leaving the tail as the means of grasping the food.