Random ideas: Morphosyntax

[Ear of the Sphinx]

Distinction of something like aspect or sth else.

1st grade (-l, -al) says about an action in general.
2nd grade (-gal, -cal) says about doing the action in given manner.
3nd grade (-(y)il) says about doing the action with real purpose/goal.

Repeating material is method of learning. Experience may be goal of learning.

And this is adapted to situations, where English language uses some different verbs in somewhat different situations (differences between speak/say/talk/tell are sometimes hard to be caught by foreigners).

[eldin raigmore]

And this is adapted to situations, where English language uses some different verbs in somewhat different situations (differences between speak/say/talk/tell are sometimes hard to be caught by foreigners).

Or L1-speakers who haven't completely acquired it yet.

My goddaughter used to use "tell" as a synonym for "talk to".
If she said something to her grandmother, and I didn't understand it and asked her to repeat it (mistakenly thinking she had been addressing me), she'd say "I'm telling Grandma" (meaning "I'm talking to Grandma").

[Solarius]

Here's a fun idea that I may use in a language I am working on: In a language with an animacy distinction, speakers use the inanimate as pejorative for people who they dislike or do not respect.

[cybrxkhan]

Here's a fun idea that I may use in a language I am working on: In a language with an animacy distinction, speakers use the inanimate as pejorative for people who they dislike or do not respect.

I can see that happening in a natlang. In one of my conlangs, Chan, there are three genders, which also correlate to three levels of respect - "polite/formal", the highest, is used for people you respect, elders, superiors, etc.; "casual", in the middle, is used for equals and so forth; "impolite", the lowest, is used for inferiors, people you don't like, etc. Something like that. You could use various politeness-genders not only with people, but also with objects - if you really don't like that computer, you'd use an impolite pronoun, perhaps; or if you're really attached to your grandfather's wristwatch, you'd use the polite for it.

[Ossicone]

I already do this in English.

I've definitely use 'it' to refer to a person I held in low regard.

[Xing]

I already do this in English.

I've definitely use 'it' to refer to a person I held in low regard.

Swedes are better off in this respect. We can use "den" as mildly derogative term of reference. If I want to be really rude I can speak of someone as "det".

[Darkgamma]

A conlang that has the following core roles:

Agent
Patient
Theme
Force
Source

Out of these roles the new core cases are made, like A=P, T=F=S, or A, P=F, T, S :D

For reference:
Our things:

A
S
O/P

:D A=S, O; A, S=O; A=O, S; A=O=S; A, O, S

[taylorS]

Here's a fun idea that I may use in a language I am working on: In a language with an animacy distinction, speakers use the inanimate as pejorative for people who they dislike or do not respect.

I actually do this in one of my older conlangs, Alpic I think.

[taylorS]

I already do this in English.

I've definitely use 'it' to refer to a person I held in low regard.

When refering to someone who really pisses me off, or when referring to some subhuman (murderer, rapist, etc.) ass-wipe in the news all call the person "That THING..."

[Darkgamma]

A language that has a good/bad distinction:

ka-wa - fight

kasawa - kill
karuwa - defeat

It's not exactly precise as shown, but the idea should be original, at least.

[Darkgamma]

Realis moods indicate "that something is actually the case" while Irrealis moods "indicate that a certain situation or action is not known to have happened as the speaker is talking", right?

Now, let's add a third set of moods that are independent of whether they happened or not. I call this the "surrealis" or something.
I've thought up of four moods that would fit this description:
The "Interrogative" mood - a special for asking questions
The "Imperative" mood - a special mood for giving commands
The "Fantastic" mood - a special mood indicating a fantasy of sorts, unreal in every respect
The "Distorted" mood - a distortion of reality, illusory mood

[roninbodhisattva]

Interrogative is often just grouped in with irrealis, in languages where there's such a distinction.

[Darkgamma]

Interrogative is often just grouped in with irrealis, in languages where there's such a distinction.

I guess it is grouped as such, but it can be grouped like this as well, since it doesn't deal with the action directly. If classified as an irrealis there'd be 3 surrealis moods left.

[roninbodhisattva]

Sure. Ok. *shrugs*

[Testyal]

Sorry, I had to chuckle at the 'fantastic' mood.

[xijlwya]

Sorry, I had to chuckle at the 'fantastic' mood.

This sentence is in a fantastic mood today!

Sorry for the spam - couldn't resist.

[Darkgamma]

:D Even though it's half baked or so, with enough tinkering it'd be a sound idea.

Also, did anyone think of a medioactive voice?

[roninbodhisattva]

:D Even though it's half baked or so, with enough tinkering it'd be a sound idea.

Also, did anyone think of a medioactive voice?

What would a medioactive be?

[Darkgamma]

:D Even though it's half baked or so, with enough tinkering it'd be a sound idea.

Also, did anyone think of a medioactive voice?

What would a medioactive be?

I don't know. I devised the name from the existance of the Active, Middle, Mediopassive and Passive voices. As you can see, there's a hole in there, medioactive... Now what would that be I don't know.

[roninbodhisattva]

I don't know. I devised the name from the existance of the Active, Middle, Mediopassive and Passive voices. As you can see, there's a hole in there, medioactive... Now what would that be I don't know.

This isn't how terminology works / grammatical phenomena work. Those terms describe a range of grammatical constructions attested crosslinguistically. You can't just make up a term and say 'it has to be there because it sounds like another member of this set'. If you came up with a language that had a grammatical phenomenon that was justified in being called 'medioactive' (say it shared properties of both active clauses and middle clauses, though I don't know what this would mean) then you could invent the term. But you can't just say 'there should be a medioactive.'

Not how it works.