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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 00:51 
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:est: Ära tapa mind!
? kill 1SG.PART
/ɛɾa tapa mint/ (more or less)

Not sure how to gloss ära. It's a negative imperative adverb. "part" is obviously the partitive case.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 01:08 
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That's fine.
But it's good to have the gloss or else I wouldn't know what part is doing what. A random string of words is not that interesting.

(I'm going to go ahead and delete the two posts before your last to keep things less cluttered.)

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 01:09 
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Nie zabijaj mnie.
[ɲɛ zabi-ja-j mɲɛ]
not kill-IMPF-IMP 1SG.ACC

:con: Emyt
Me-kiśsardąduś.
[me- kiɕ-saɹdaɪ̃-doɕ]
1SG.GEN- not-die-2SG

:con: Kēlen :?:
Ñerle manōña wē.
[ɲ-er-le ma-noːɲ-a weː]
NI-2SG-1SG ANI-dead-SG NEG.IMP
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Not sure how to gloss ära. It's a negative imperative adverb. "part" is obviously the partitive case.

NEG.IMP?

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 01:15 
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Haha ok.

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:con: Niđalos
Anu on somtio se!
[anu ɔn sɔmti.oː se]
1SG.ACC NEG kill.IMP EMPH

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 01:33 
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
(and to me, personally, 'döda' sounds as stupid and childish as 'don't dead me!' in English).

What are you talking about? I say "don't dead me!" all the time. It's a perfectly cromulent phrase.

It doesn't surprise me that some English speakers would actually use this, but after at least 13 or so years of almost daily exposure to English, I have yet to hear or read this anywhere. How about 'don't death me!', then?

Anyway, in Swedish, I only use 'döda' jokingly in 'JAG TRODDE ATT H@N SKULLE DÖDA MIG!' ('I thought [s]he was going to kill me!', like when someone does something very ordinary, like handing me a pencil).

hashi wrote:
:est: Ära tapa mind!
? kill 1SG.PART
/ɛɾa tapa mint/ (more or less)

Not sure how to gloss ära. It's a negative imperative adverb. "part" is obviously the partitive case.

But if this is Estonian (which the 'mind' now makes very clear to me), what was that other Uralic one grouped together with Finnish and Hungarian before (that had 'ala' for Finnish 'älä' and Estonian 'ära')? :(

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 01:47 
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Sami.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 02:16 
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hashi wrote:
Sami.

Which one?

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 02:34 
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Skógvur wrote:
hashi wrote:
Sami.

Which one?

I presume Northern Sami, just on the basis it's the most well known.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 02:37 
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Skógvur wrote:
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(and to me, personally, 'döda' sounds as stupid and childish as 'don't dead me!' in English).

What are you talking about? I say "don't dead me!" all the time. It's a perfectly cromulent phrase.

It doesn't surprise me that some English speakers would actually use this, but after at least 13 or so years of almost daily exposure to English, I have yet to hear or read this anywhere. How about 'don't death me!', then?

I think she was joking with you. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 02:51 
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Ossicone wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
(and to me, personally, 'döda' sounds as stupid and childish as 'don't dead me!' in English).

What are you talking about? I say "don't dead me!" all the time. It's a perfectly cromulent phrase.

It doesn't surprise me that some English speakers would actually use this, but after at least 13 or so years of almost daily exposure to English, I have yet to hear or read this anywhere. How about 'don't death me!', then?

I think she was joking with you. :roll:

Still wouldn't surprise me.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Fri 11 Nov 2011, 03:55 
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Skógvur wrote:
Ossicone wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
Thakowsaizmu wrote:
Skógvur wrote:
(and to me, personally, 'döda' sounds as stupid and childish as 'don't dead me!' in English).

What are you talking about? I say "don't dead me!" all the time. It's a perfectly cromulent phrase.

It doesn't surprise me that some English speakers would actually use this, but after at least 13 or so years of almost daily exposure to English, I have yet to hear or read this anywhere. How about 'don't death me!', then?

I think she was joking with you. :roll:

Still wouldn't surprise me.


I've only got one comment about all this:

No me muerte!

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 00:11 
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Beni öldürmeyiniz!
1.ACC die.CAUS-NEG-IMP.POL

There are a couple different ways to form imperatives in Turkish, but you'd want to use the polite form in this case, I think. d:


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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 01:12 
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:con: Møssogzøn: (Yes, yet another name change)
Mærittæfesech deektenyæ!
NEG-2S.ERG-INOH-kill-1S.ABS present-time-ADV

I seem to recall saying this somewhere before but the imperative is formed with the adverb "presently". This used to be how the present tense was formed, but in modern times, it generally became ommited, thus when it is used it seems more forceful.

:con: Zbedi:
Me matta nå!
1S.OBL kill NEG

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 13:30 
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:con: Vanga: Ólveskeidnelje ǽije!
[ˈɔlvɛʃkɛ͡ɪjnɛlj(ɪ) ˈæ͡ɪjɪ]
kill<SUBJ/IMP>.2PS.1PS_OBJ NEG

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 13:38 
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Have I done this in Lakota yet? I cannot be bothered to look. Anyway...

Makté yo/ye šni!
ma-kté |yo/ye | šni
1s.PAT-kill | IMP.M/IMP.F | NEG

The imperative markers "yo" and "ye" depend on the gender of the speaker. "Yo" is masculine and "ye" is feminine.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 18:27 
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:can: Inuktitut
Uvanga inuanngigit.
1S kill-NEG-IMP

I'm not 100% of this being accurate :/ Does anyone know of any good Inuktitut Grammars?


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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 18:47 
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I suppose you could also say something like ólvusk'æije! in Vanga if you need to say it quickly.

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 18:47 
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Non mi uccidere!
NEG 1SG.ACC kill-INF

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Töte mich nicht!
kill.IMP 1SG.ACC NEG

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 19:26 
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:isl: Icelandic: Dreptu mig ekki! Drepið[i] mig ekki! Ekki drepa mig!
:fao: Færoese: Drep meg ikki!

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 Post subject: Re: Don't kill me!
PostPosted: Sun 13 Nov 2011, 20:46 
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Skógvur wrote:
Providing some alternatives to the Swedish one. We have three negative particles to pick from, after all, and more than one word for to kill (and to me, personally, 'döda' sounds as stupid and childish as 'don't dead me!' in English).
:swe: Icke dräp mig! Dräp mig icke! Dräp mig ej! Döda mig inte!

And to me 'dräpa' sounds a bit ridiculous [:P]. It's a cool word but... it sounds kinda forced to my ears. And the word order in 'Icke dräp mig!' is killing me (heh-heh), even if I ignore the use of 'ej' and (especially) 'icke'. Well, each to his own I guess [;)].

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