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Haha! He just means he'll stop it so we can fix whatever problem is going on. It may not come across in the edited version, but when we originally recorded it the conversations was all kinds of janky and distorted. As it is we completely forgot to say anything about epenthesis and deletion.

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George Corley
Producer and Moderating Host, Conlangery Podcast

I forgot to mention: I have a tendency to add epenthetic /n/s before alveolar stops.
So I get pendantic and more confusingly entymology.

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Ikasmu ati'uki nai uraiur.
Hinai nimuśim naimi nai sasamiur urukani. Śi'ama nai huhumiur na ni'amuśim nai sasamiur.
Pumaki nimuśim śima'a na ami nimuśim ara'a. Hini nihrasum i'aku tumra urukani na nihrasum sanik hraspir.

...Now i feel stupid.

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| | | (Nahuatl) | (Sanskrit & Pali) (Yaghan) | (Antregabua)
CrazyEttin's Lair

I suppose this happens to you a lot.
(a sequel to this one.)

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My name is Christian Munk, and I may be a chipmunk afterall.

Native: | Fluent: | Less than fluent: , , | Beginner: , Volapük | To do list: , Lojban
Creating: Mhmmz

Is there anything us devout fans can do to make episode #52 super-extra-special?

I don't think we've planned that far ahead yet!
For now, just keep listening.

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Ikasmu ati'uki nai uraiur.
Hinai nimuśim naimi nai sasamiur urukani. Śi'ama nai huhumiur na ni'amuśim nai sasamiur.
Pumaki nimuśim śima'a na ami nimuśim ara'a. Hini nihrasum i'aku tumra urukani na nihrasum sanik hraspir.

I always have trouble with phonological processes, because there's no standard. Every natlang does things differently--just look at how /i/ heavily palatalizes other consonants in some languages but does nothing in others. [ç]is only before front vowels in Japanese, but only before back vowels (and only one specific back vowel) in English.

I can never decide.

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Banami bhjaddhos rafi mau cy vyaja cecerror.
Fools do not see the sun nor sail the seas
-Azenti Proverb

I liked this episode. It's always nice to hear new examples of various phonological processes.

@Chagen: I always thought that [ç(j)] was a result of /hj/ rather than the vowel following it, and it looks like Wikipedia agrees with me (well, sort of):

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Proto-Hyảlim | Bjarmish

Ón gráti sem jett barn kvéner jag syggji jett lag um deiðan...
[oʊ̯n ˈgɾaːtɪ sɛmː jɛtː baɾn ˈkʰʋɛːnɛɾ jaː ˈsʏd͡ʑːɪ jɛtː laː ʊmː ˈdɛɪ̯an]

Yeah, but English's phoneme /ju/ has /j/ already in it. All /hu/ syllables in English (at least for me) are /hju/ anyway.

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Banami bhjaddhos rafi mau cy vyaja cecerror.
Fools do not see the sun nor sail the seas
-Azenti Proverb

You know what's weird about that? Mine remains [hj]. When I was younger it really threw me when someone pronounced <human> [çʲumɨn]

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Dotjen
Kotanese

Really? That's weird (and cool). I've only heard [ç(j)] and [j].

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Proto-Hyảlim | Bjarmish

Ón gráti sem jett barn kvéner jag syggji jett lag um deiðan...
[oʊ̯n ˈgɾaːtɪ sɛmː jɛtː baɾn ˈkʰʋɛːnɛɾ jaː ˈsʏd͡ʑːɪ jɛtː laː ʊmː ˈdɛɪ̯an]

Really?

/ˈbæskɪtˌbɔl hjup/?
/hju ɑr ju/?

I've never heard this dialect before! Where is it from?

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任何事物的发展都是物极必反，否极泰来。

I have very much needed some few of the last several, particularly including #37.
Unfortunately I have to find an uninterrupted hour-or-so to listen to each one.
(I mean, what's unfortunate is, that finding such an hour is difficult for me.)

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I am not responsible for the accuracy of my sources; they're responsible for their own mistakes, if any, and also responsible for defending their own statements if you disagree with them.

Trail: It appear I was wrong. <Hoop> for me is just /hup/.

I didn't really have time to think of EVERY single possible /hu/ in English. I just though of <human> ([çumæn] for me) and <huge>.

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Banami bhjaddhos rafi mau cy vyaja cecerror.
Fools do not see the sun nor sail the seas
-Azenti Proverb

Yeah, you gotta be careful with the universal statements, they bite :P

You really have /hju/ in <who> and <whose>? I have never heard that before! Intriguing!

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任何事物的发展都是物极必反，否极泰来。

I'm underwhelmed by Aszev's voice and feel his is not suited to him. Perhaps someone else....
As an aside, I think this is the first one I didn't learn at least something however trivial.

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Up in blue sky silly blimp goes by
Where it come from where it go
Ziggy-Zaggy it fly high

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George Corley
Producer and Moderating Host, Conlangery Podcast

Yay! I'll comment more when I'm done listening.

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"Wait for the starvation of glaciers, chicken hamburger Noel Weber Arthur."

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In my idiodialect, -oholic, derived from alcoholic, is used to refer to a person who is addicted to something.
For example, shop+oholic= shopoholic "one who is addicted to shopping.

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"Wait for the starvation of glaciers, chicken hamburger Noel Weber Arthur."

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ANNOUNCEMENT: Bianca may be leaving the podcast soon. William and I could probably do it on our own, but the third voice ads something to the conversation, so I really would like to have a third host. I will be contacting a few people personally, but anyone who wants to try out can contact me through the Conlangery email (conlangery@gmail.com). Give me your Skype handle, any conlangs you have created (hopefully with links) and a (short) statement about your knowledge of linguistics and reasons you would benefit the show. After that you can audition over Skype.

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George Corley
Producer and Moderating Host, Conlangery Podcast