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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 18:41 
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Solarius wrote:
No! Never stop the podcast!

More seriously, I liked this episode a lot. I'm now writing a post on phonological processes in Alife.


Haha! He just means he'll stop it so we can fix whatever problem is going on. It may not come across in the edited version, but when we originally recorded it the conversations was all kinds of janky and distorted. As it is we completely forgot to say anything about epenthesis and deletion.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 18:48 
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Ollock wrote:
about epenthesis and deletion.

I forgot to mention: I have a tendency to add epenthetic /n/s before alveolar stops.
So I get pendantic and more confusingly entymology.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 18:52 
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Trailsend wrote:
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Thakowsaizmu wrote:
Why does Aszev sound like Batman?

Wait... has anyone ever seen Aszev and Batman at the same time..?

Haven't seen Bruce Wayne with them either..


ASZEV IS THE DARK KNIGHT!

:wat:

Image <---

This is news...?


...Now i feel stupid.

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PostPosted: Mon 13 Feb 2012, 21:05 
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Ossicone wrote:
Ollock wrote:
about epenthesis and deletion.

I forgot to mention: I have a tendency to add epenthetic /n/s before alveolar stops.
So I get pendantic and more confusingly entymology.

I suppose this happens to you a lot.
(a sequel to this one.)

Edit: Wait that's the other way around

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 08:12 
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Is there anything us devout fans can do to make episode #52 super-extra-special?


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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 15:38 
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M. Park wrote:
Is there anything us devout fans can do to make episode #52 super-extra-special?

I don't think we've planned that far ahead yet!
For now, just keep listening. [B)]

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 16:50 
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I always have trouble with phonological processes, because there's no standard. Every natlang does things differently--just look at how /i/ heavily palatalizes other consonants in some languages but does nothing in others. [ç]is only before front vowels in Japanese, but only before back vowels (and only one specific back vowel) in English.

I can never decide.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 16:57 
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I liked this episode. It's always nice to hear new examples of various phonological processes.

@Chagen: I always thought that [ç(j)] was a result of /hj/ rather than the vowel following it, and it looks like Wikipedia agrees with me (well, sort of):
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/h/ becomes [ç˕] before [j] and [i], as in human [ˈç˕juːmən] or [ˈç˕uːmən] where it is not dropped.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 17:11 
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Yeah, but English's phoneme /ju/ has /j/ already in it. All /hu/ syllables in English (at least for me) are /hju/ anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 17:55 
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Ceresz wrote:
I liked this episode. It's always nice to hear new examples of various phonological processes.

@Chagen: I always thought that [ç(j)] was a result of /hj/ rather than the vowel following it, and it looks like Wikipedia agrees with me (well, sort of):
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/h/ becomes [ç˕] before [j] and [i], as in human [ˈç˕juːmən] or [ˈç˕uːmən] where it is not dropped.

You know what's weird about that? Mine remains [hj]. When I was younger it really threw me when someone pronounced <human> [çʲumɨn]

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 17:57 
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Really? That's weird (and cool). I've only heard [ç(j)] and [j].

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 20:57 
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Chagen wrote:
Yeah, but English's phoneme /ju/ has /j/ already in it. All /hu/ syllables in English (at least for me) are /hju/ anyway.

[O.o] Really?

/ˈbæskɪtˌbɔl hjup/?
/hju ɑr ju/?

I've never heard this dialect before! Where is it from?

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 22:35 
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I have very much needed some few of the last several, particularly including #37.
Unfortunately I have to find an uninterrupted hour-or-so to listen to each one.
(I mean, what's unfortunate is, that finding such an hour is difficult for me.)

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Feb 2012, 22:59 
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Trail: It appear I was wrong. <Hoop> for me is just /hup/.

I didn't really have time to think of EVERY single possible /hu/ in English. I just though of <human> ([çumæn] for me) and <huge>.

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Feb 2012, 01:10 
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Yeah, you gotta be careful with the universal statements, they bite :P

You really have /hju/ in <who> and <whose>? I have never heard that before! Intriguing!

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PostPosted: Wed 15 Feb 2012, 10:14 
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I'm underwhelmed by Aszev's voice and feel his Image is not suited to him. Perhaps someone else.... [¬.¬]
As an aside, I think this is the first one I didn't learn at least something however trivial.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 14:11 
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Conlangery #38: Derivational Morphology

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 15:49 
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Yay! I'll comment more when I'm done listening.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 15:55 
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In my idiodialect, -oholic, derived from alcoholic, is used to refer to a person who is addicted to something.
For example, shop+oholic= shopoholic "one who is addicted to shopping.

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PostPosted: Mon 20 Feb 2012, 21:52 
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ANNOUNCEMENT: Bianca may be leaving the podcast soon. William and I could probably do it on our own, but the third voice ads something to the conversation, so I really would like to have a third host. I will be contacting a few people personally, but anyone who wants to try out can contact me through the Conlangery email (conlangery@gmail.com). Give me your Skype handle, any conlangs you have created (hopefully with links) and a (short) statement about your knowledge of linguistics and reasons you would benefit the show. After that you can audition over Skype.

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