Interesting. Do you happen to have a source? It could be interesting to see a bit more about Arrernte phonological history. Could it be possible that those words really do have initial stress.Arayaz wrote: ↑09 Apr 2024 15:21Arrernte (and possibly others of the Australian ones) may have secondary stress only because of its VCC syllable structure (i.e. it might have previously had initial stress, but then all consonant-initial words got unstressed vowels added to the beginning). Though I suppose if that were true, words that always began with vowels would have initial stress.Omzinesý wrote: ↑06 Apr 2024 08:35 I wanna make a lang with the stress on the second syllable. According to WALS 16 languages of 220 have it.
South America: Mapudungun, Aroana
Nirth America: Stoney, Dakota, Paiute (Southern), Pomo (Eastern)
Europe: Basque (Bidasoa Valley), Basque (Oñati)
New Guinea: Tolai, Siroi
Australia: Arrernte (Western), Alyawarra, Mbabaran, Lamu-Lamu, Thayban, Uradhi
The next task will be to check how the secondary stress affects the language.
I checked Mapudungun, and it seems that it actually does not have secondary stress, but research is difficult cos the language is dying.
Basque stressing seems to depend on dialect, but those two apparently do have secondary stress.
The data are incomplete as best. Digging deeper could be a good subject for a thesis if somebody needed one.