Lexicon milestones and discussion of lexicon growth

[Khemehekis]

Congrats on the Proto-Gūrru and Arveyran milestones!



Take a look at this page:

http://cals.conlang.org/statistics/

I'm wondering which of the languages listed in the "Outliers" section really have vocabularies of more than 10,000 words. Are we really supposed to believe that FeNeKeRe has over 29 million words (especially when English is only estimated to have a million)?

[Julanga]

Having 29 million words isn't that much if you have inflections or compounding. Maybe Fenmere counts all of them? I wouldn't count them as lexical items, though.

Maybe it is a machine generated relex of some dictionary with 29 million entries?

Maybe it is the number of words that the language within the conworld has rather than the language in our world?

[Khemehekis]

I did some more googling and found out FeNeKeRe was on Conworkshop.

See this link:

http://www.grassdogstudio.com/fenekere/ ... search.php

And this one:

http://www.grassdogstudio.com/portfolio ... 8&pindex=5

[eldin raigmore]

http://www.grassdogstudio.com/fenekere/ ... search.php
http://www.grassdogstudio.com/portfolio ... 8&pindex=5

"enshrowding it with her hyde"?
Is "enshrouding it with her hide" meant?
It turns out "shrowd" is an obsolete spelling of "shroud";
but why didn't she "enshrowd it with her jekyll"?

[Khemehekis]

"enshrowding it with her hyde"?

I noticed this too.

Perhaps she was generalizing from "Naugahyde"?

[Bristel]

Ercunich, my Celtic conlang has about 1485 words so far. (just the nominative singular of nouns and present active 3rd person of verbs, but still that's quite a lot of words for just a couple of months work on it)

Currently, I'm not really adding more words, but I'm correcting pronunciations and adding definitions to words on my list.

I don't think I've ever created a conlang with as many words, full declension tables, or complexity, so I'm really happy about it.

The last word in the lexicon that I worked on was uth 'porridge'.

There are probably lots of basic words missing, so when I get the wordlist fixed, I'll add in words from the Swadesh list.

[Khemehekis]

1,485 words is pretty good! And it's going to grow, fer sher.

A lot of conlangs are missing "louse", so if you haven't done the Swadesh List yet it's likely you don't have that one.

As for FeNeKeRe, it says there are 25,234 root words, so I put it on my list as a 25,234-word language.

[alynnidalar]

Congrats on the Proto-Gūrru and Arveyran milestones!



Take a look at this page:

http://cals.conlang.org/statistics/

I'm wondering which of the languages listed in the "Outliers" section really have vocabularies of more than 10,000 words. Are we really supposed to believe that FeNeKeRe has over 29 million words (especially when English is only estimated to have a million)?

From what I understand of Fenekere, only a few thousand at most were "hand-created", so to speak, and most of the others were created by randomly assigning unused roots to a list of some kind (for example, taxonomic lists of species or lists of occupations). The mythology behind it is that each root is associated with a spirit/"Artist" of a particular thing or action, theoretically covering all things/actions, and the various derivations give you different variations on it (or turn it into a different part of speech, or whatever).

It's definitely not a naturalistic language.

[Bristel]

1,485 words is pretty good! And it's going to grow, fer sher.

A lot of conlangs are missing "louse", so if you haven't done the Swadesh List yet it's likely you don't have that one.

As for FeNeKeRe, it says there are 25,234 root words, so I put it on my list as a 25,234-word language.

It's possible I don't have "louse", I think I have a word for some pest that's similar, but I have to finish the definitions for the words I have, and maybe derive some that are missing from the Swadesh list.

[Ahzoh]

I have been slowly reworking the verb roots...
I am more than halfway done and I have 256 verb roots so far and I can estimate I'll have 300 by the time I'm done.

[sangi39]

Close to a milestone, but Proto-Sirdic currently has 90 roots Hopefully with the new starters at work and the resulting increase in the number of days off work I have will mean that I can keep adding to this over the next month. I really need to work on the verbs, though. 65ish of those roots are nouns, 12 are pronominal roots and 5 are numbers so at the moment Proto-Sirdic only has 8 verbs, and they're not even fully representative of the 8 verb classes found in the language

[Ahzoh]

I have so far 327 verb roots.

[Corphishy]

My new side project, Amatne, has just reached 50 words (with only 4 nouns currently :/ ).

[alynnidalar]

Old Azen just hit 300 entries, with #300 being ana, mother.

[k1234567890y]

I have found that I now have two languages with more than 2200 words, one is a priori, the other is an a posteriori language belonging to the germanic language family...

seems that it is much easier to make an a posteriori language with a large amount of vocabulary than to make an a priori language with a large amount of vocabulary?

[Khemehekis]

(Aiming for 45,678 now, hm?)

Actually, the next milestone I'm aiming for is 35,000. Next milestone after that won't be until 40,000 words. Unfortunately, this Kankonian stuff may have to take a backseat to recovery.

If I actually reach 45,678, shoot me. That way I'll stop creating words.

Time to pull out the artillery . . .

A few minutes ago I reached my 45,678th word!

The lexical camellidorsifrangial straw was shipeltyuph, a word meaning "batrachophobia". It is a present-day coinage from the roots of Ancient Ciladian, shipel meaning frog, and tyuph meaning fear.

[xroox]

http://www.dimensionantropologica.inah.gob.mx/?p=722

If you can read Spanish this might interest you.
It's about smell categories in Totonac, great for thinking about your own categories in your conlang(s).

[Ahzoh]

I have a lexicon of 757 words now! Let us get 800, but I am close to 1000.

Today's words were ḵpar "night" and gimel "horizon" (derived from g-m-l "to stare, to linger at")

[Khemehekis]

I strongly root for you to persevere with Vrkhazhian, Ahzoh! You can make the 1,000-word milestone goal! You can do it with your awesomely Semitoid language for your awesome desert!

[Ahzoh]

Vrkhazhian now has 407 words in the dictionary: http://conworkshop.info/dictionary.php?L=YVR

The latest word is ʾifḏaḏam [ʔiɸt͡sat͡sam] meaning "bloody", derived from the verb root ḏ-ḏ-m which means "to bleed intensely", derived from ḏim meaning "blood"